I’m confused by what you mean here. Are you asking why I didn’t vote Professor, or are you asking Professor why he didn’t vote Cloned? Or are you just asking why I didn’t vote Cloned?
I didn’t want to vote Cloned because we were mainly killing him to resolve Pigeon’s alignment, and Pigeon’s claim meant Cloned would be innocent - I also didn’t outright believe Pigeon’s claim, so I was hesitant to spare him. I know these sound contradictory, so I unvoted since I was willing to let the lynch rand. Then I was repeatedly told to vote Cloned in a short period of time, and I was flustered enough to comply.
What sort of reaction were you expecting from me? I got over Cloned’s flip in a matter of hours n1, and Pigeon’s flip wasn’t a surprise.
Here are my general thoughts atm, I’ll take another look once I’ve received a few responses.
Town Core
Frog. Leafia. Professor. Squirrel. Illwei.
Town Lean
Aelin.
Wolf Lean
Bradland - From my personal experience in previous wolf games, derpclears are incredibly easy to fake. Gorta. Eli.
sigh
when it says light game.
it means light posts.
not light effort.
maybe
maybe you should look at the multiple people who had meta on pigeon telling you that, yes, pigeon couldve absolutely been a pr there
maybe
just maybe.
maybe if you scumread them you shouldve posted more than 10 times and maybe cased him
idk
just a thought
can you worldbuild and/or put any form of effort into the game?
give me like… the most basic shit possible
what do you think of frog and i if professor theoretically flipped town
what do you think of frog and i if professor theoretically flipped scum
yes
but thats “different”
this is where i say “no, shut up” to you, too
i know tro out of game
if im correct on who you are, you know tro out of game. dont. just… dont.
yes.
This is true and entirely fair
I do feel like there could’ve been a slew of other ml options there, including a claimed PR who was still being sussed, allowing for a nightkill on a stronger player so it really doesn’t make sense for a w!professor to go for cloned there imo
Eli should have an eye kept on them but I think I want gorta/magnus wagons today unless something magical happens from either of them
this is… not anything near an example of gaslighting.
also
you are… the last person i would ever count on for reads, gorta. like… pretty much ever. I still don’t understand how you manage to have such a massive ego surrounding yourself and fm.
interesting how you havent said a single thing about me in the entire game and all the sudden im at your core scumteam as soon as someone else is looking at me
its crazy how that happens
Why Squirrel?
not asking you to tryhard
just asking you to fucking try
who couldve guessed sigh
ive run out of anger for you, frog
This is something new, and I would appreciate a follow-up whenever you get a chance.
everyone remaining is:
Aelin
Illwei
Magnus
Gorta
Eli
Trochilidae
If you have a chance, I’d like to see some potential teams and reasonings as to why
why are these two the only ones with explanations
for brad - do you think he’s been wolfy outside of that potential derpclear? or do you think the derpclear was deliberately faked?
First of all I could make that “I thought it was mountainous” observation as scum and I’d just say it because lol so that shouldn’t be clearing for me.
There’s plenty of other ways to figure I’m town but I won’t go into self-meta, you choose my destiny.
Checks results
You chose “Death by fire”
What the fuck is wrong with y’all?
So my townreads are…
Squirrel
Illwei
Professor
Frog
Aelin
In order. Squirrel like I’ve said has had some very insightful posts and his actions and EOD were very good from my viewpoint.
Illwei is a meta read that I’m confident on because I know how to read her, see my iso for my meta on her.
Professor like I said during that EOD was active as hell and was trying to steer town in the right direction off of a player he believed that he could read and that he could townread, I believe his conviction that he has his reads but I’m again wishing he could explain what makes things town indicative for people rather than just saying he knows how to read them.
Frog also trying to take the town leader role and lead things into the right direction. Also appears to believe his reads and has an insane amount of energy that I doubt a mafia member could have…unless your name is AskThePizzaGuy.
Aelin’s responses to my questions are ones that I find myself thinking “Okay, I understand fully and I could see myself thinking this too” or her answers just go above expectations so I’m inclined to townread her.
The main reason why Frog and Aelin are closest to the bottom of my town pile is just because I feel like those 2 are the players as mafia would be the most capable of fooling me. I’m not judging unfairly with this however because people tend to do that in the most annoying way possible.
Everyone else I need to get a grip and a better read on still, if that town list is pure and adding me to that would make it 6 and I would just need 1 more correct townread and we win this game.
my read on you currently is that you’re a low efforting scum trying to skim by based on the fact that it’s a light game
hence me saying “light game refers to the posts, not the effort you should be putting in”
Yeah, that’s why I didn’t mentioning it. It could also very easily be a genuine thought from scum since kat literally said it was a low power game, so, like, I’m really not exactly putting much stock into it whatsoever.
You’re towny regardless though so shrug
So, if you think all three of us are town, I’m gonna need for you to worldbuild for me here: Where are the wolves, and did we just end up with V/V wagons by own our fault?
why do people think im good at fm all of the sudden
i literally had a 22-game loss streak
What’s the point? Everyone already knows what it means, including you.
Professor flips wolf, Frog and Aelin most likely T/W.
Professor flips town, Frog and Aelin most likely T/T.
Mainly because most people would agree with other placements, but those two stuck out.
Brad’s acting relatively Towny, but his views were already established by other players, so through that lens he isn’t actually adding new information, but recycling old info. It’s not scummy in a vacuum.
Brad’s closer to null for me, if anything.
Also
I forgot to mention it in my summary post somehow but Leafia has rolled over at every single thought that someone has thrown at her and IMO Leafia is much more headstrong as town and much more agreeable as scum
I don’t know? You post pretty well and sound like you know what you’re doing off of first impressions. I’ll townread the downplay though.
And the answer to all of those is, yeah why not? Both were in the POE, Pigeon started off horribly and was acting like he was scum giving up, Cloned was tunneling people off of a bad reaction test and literally wanted to vote Pigeon out after he claimed doctor. Is that the explanation of good looking town play?
It could very easily be “town leader” vs “town hero” in regards to Frog vs Professor and it ends up with them scumreading each other and getting annoyed by each other. Frog tries to bring people together and vote out a mafia member with his consensus vote talk during EOD, Professor reminds me of Illario from EpicMafia where he tries to stop LHF from getting constantly wagoned and remove stale narratives.
You’re mixed into this unfortunately and it’s just lead to more chaotic moments but, again, it’s probably two towns butting heads and not getting along.
