(no offense is intended here btw)
Playing safe is the perfect descriptor for someone like YBW, at least in my opinion
not really i just think the way in which they’re engaging with wazza doesn’t feel like the way they’d handle the situation as a villager
misread or strawman
i never said “arete isn’t being inquisitive enough”
i said i didn’t interpret your handling of wazza as inqusitive which means the argument isn’t intended to solve wazza’s slot in the end - under my interpretation
that’s different from what you just claimed i said
well you doing what you’re doing is making everyone vote wazza so unless you’re confident she’s a wolf you should be doing something else if you’re a villager
and rn i don’t even think you want wazza dead so it’s strange that the voting situation doesn’t concern you
yes i know you’re calling wazza a wolf but i don’t feel you want her dead especially since it’s early day 1
so yknow
wazza can be a wolf and you can be town, rn i just have doubts about your alignment and since i don’t think the two of you are w/w i’d like to find out which one is the wolf if this isn’t v/v
and the argument doesn’t feel like v/v to me either
and i feel like wazza’s side of the argument is actually townier even if that doesn’t give me an independent townread on wazza
I don’t want to interfere on your argument much, but if you look at the argument between me and Arete, you’ll notice this is a common theme, Vul, throughout the entire time we’ve argued they’ve either ignored some of my posts, taken the context out of some of them or completely changed their mind on the meaning of them to best suit what they want
i’ll admit that the fact wazza hasn’t made a read on arete (or… anyone, really, other than throwing some mild suspicion on ybw) this entire time is sketching me out
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bad timing
i guess i should take that back
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This annoys me
I think wazza is scummy based on some points, but I think arete is just trying to get her killed without solving the slot
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yes and your reasoning was ‘but I haven’t made any reads yet’ which is irrelevant to my point which is that my push on you is the sort of thing that generally should have influenced your read on me but wasn’t
like presumably you make reads when people do something alignment indicative, you don’t wait until post 500 and then flip a magic ‘now I am making reads’ switch
the fact that you weren’t making a read is the ENTIRE PROBLEM, ‘but I wasn’t making any reads’ is not a counterargument
you not liking that YBW making a metaread on you based on old meta is irrelevant to your accusation that he was being too safe unless you specifically have a reason to think that YBW using old meta is AI
the only thing it’s relevant to is whether his read on you is accurate and his read on you isn’t where I’m getting my read on you
also a major reason why I haven’t tried to make a read is because I’ve been gone 3 months which seems to just be forgotten
it’s a potential reason for you to bother wolfreading / pushing me at all which I thought through when thinking about the read.
It’s basically saying “if vulgard is mafia he’s trying to set me off on the wrong foot and put me in PoE for sorc bomb stuff, but I don’t really think he’s doing that so I think he’s town”
the other option after this is that you’re wolf who wants to discredit me so that I am less effectively able to townlead but you also don’t feel like you’re posting in a way that accomplishes that
I can wait as long as I want to make reads, I’m not forced to post reads now and tie myself to them, legit nothing enclines me to even make reads when we aren’t even 12 hours into the day yet
Well here’s your extra reasoning, and since you want to talk about meta, just remember I did this the last time I came back from a break, and that break was shorter than this one.
okay
what are you on about?
i don’t really find it difficult to push strong villagers as a wolf
but that’s beside the point
i feel like i’m posting in a way that accomplishes nothing
i’ve voted like 4 people and the arete vote is the only one that gained any traction at all and it’s from the person arete’s currently pushing
im not quite sure I agree with that but you do feel rather directionless which I think is a good look
it was a slight misphrasing of your point but my point is that … I am being inquisitive … it is a factually false claim to say that I am not being inquisitive …
I mean I slightly want her dead in that I think that she is >rand wolf and do not think that anyone else is particularly >rand wolf except maybe Marshal
I’m not particularly concerned about people voting her, she got run up to L-4 which isn’t close to hammer and people can … move their votes … if she starts being townie or someone else starts being wolfier
I am not going to be like ‘I think Wazza is likely to be a wolf, but I don’t think anyone else should vote her, just me.’ That would be weird and stupid.
I think this is an extremely bad set of sentences if Wazza is a villager
literally read my posts
i tried
i understand none of it