[Game Thread - ENDGAME 2/17] The 'Supa Mario' Sorcerer17 - Mafia Wins

[Outedwolf]

the issue for me is: we have only played cog psy, so your read on me knowing its me back then is… poor

and ofc you know its poor, but you play it up like its some slam dunk with super strong language (and even if its a joke, it isn’t obvious because there isn’t really any humour in the post)

you have never seen me as a wolf and moreover, you were a wolf when we played, so your lens of my village game is hampered by that fact (also its on a different site and ppl post differently on diff sites, which is… obv)

you posting differently means nothing to me because this is fol not the syndicate

[Vulgard]

@Arete

BK is trying really hard to appeal to Marshal by repeatedly bringing up the fact that she townreads Marshal [this is true regardless of BK’s alignment]

which would be extremely weird for W/W

hm
can you bring up the specific posts, maybe bolding the parts that you think are unaligning
this might sound like a dumb request but i’d really like to get into your headspace

[Outedwolf]

@Vulgard

hm
can you bring up the specific posts, maybe bolding the parts that you think are unaligning
this might sound like a dumb request but i’d really like to get into your headspace

replying to me but quoting arete

is this fols version of shroop :curtain:

lmao that headspace line

wolf textbook 201

[Vulgard]

@Outedwolf

you posting differently means nothing to me because this is fol not the syndicate

that’s a fair assessment

@Outedwolf

and ofc you know its poor, but you play it up like its some slam dunk with super strong language (and even if its a joke, it isn’t obvious because there isn’t really any humour in the post)

you have never seen me as a wolf and moreover, you were a wolf when we played, so your lens of my village game is hampered by that fact (also its on a different site and ppl post differently on diff sites, which is… obv)

i played it up for reactions, and i found exactly 0 people willing to defend you, but no votes on you and no comments about you
which actually makes me think you’re more likely to be a wolf
i wasn’t even shaded for making that read, and the only person who really responded to it was you, so…

as for what i’ve seen of your village game, i read the specchat warrior game this year; you were an obvious and good villager in that game, something i’m not seeing here at the moment
i’ve also seen you wolf in turbos a few times and what you’re doing here feels more similar to those turbos
that said i know turbos are unreliable so i’m not putting too much stock into them as opposed to the other experiences i’ve had with you and my overall perception of your current play independent from meta

[Vulgard]

@Outedwolf

lmao that headspace line

wolf textbook 201

i see curiosity is forbidden

[Vulgard]

/vote Outedwolf @Host_Account_1 either this or marshal works honestly but i prefer this at the moment

[Vulgard]

@Outedwolf

the issue for me is: we have only played cog psy, so your read on me knowing its me back then is… poor

and ofc you know its poor, but you play it up like its some slam dunk with super strong language

this part also reads and feels like tmi

[Outedwolf]

@Vulgard

i played it up for reactions, and i found exactly 0 people willing to defend you, but no votes on you and no comments about you
which actually makes me think you’re more likely to be a wolf
i wasn’t even shaded for making that read, and the only person who really responded to it was you, so…

as for what i’ve seen of your village game, i read the specchat warrior game this year; you were an obvious and good villager in that game, something i’m not seeing here at the moment
i’ve also seen you wolf in turbos a few times and what you’re doing here feels more similar to those turbos
that said i know turbos are unreliable so i’m not putting too much stock into them as opposed to the other experiences i’ve had with you and my overall perception of your current play independent from meta

i can believe the reaction thing. and i understand the vote/comment thing.

re comparison to spec chat: i think its just too early to make that read, i had made 1 check in post at the time, its just a weird thing to now compare that to

i dont really get what you mean re wolf turbos tbh

[Outedwolf]

wat

[Outedwolf]

“its just a reaction test, bro”

hehe

[Vulgard]

@Outedwolf

i dont really get what you mean re wolf turbos tbh

overarching vague posting trend

[Arete]

@BradLand

So me not being pocketed by you ever is the reason why I’m townreading you correctly?

@BradLand

What about townreads on you?

I don’t think I found any but hey we’re open to talking about them.

these were the two main ones

both of them have a vibe of ‘look at ME, look how I townread you, unlike all these other people who are maligning you by wolfreading you! look how I am not doing that’

(those 'I’s are capitalized for emphasis not just grammar)

which is an absolutely bizarre attitude to project towards a partner that you know is not town

[Outedwolf]

@Vulgard

overarching vague posting trend

hey i make vague posts regardless of my alignment smh

[Outedwolf]

@Kiiruma

I now feel like my post was poorly timed! Since it seems it’s probably going to change people’s attention and stop this discussion a bit so that’s my bad.

I’ll just be vibing around for a bit then will continue some catchup after.

Current discussion seems alright in thread

lack of full stop in the last line is wolfy cmv

[Vulgard]

@Outedwolf

hey i make vague posts regardless of my alignment

no, i meant “vague posting trend,” not “trend of vague posting”
vague, as in, “the posting trend thing i’m referring to is vague”

@Arete

‘look at ME, look how I townread you, unlike all these other people who are maligning you by wolfreading you! look how I am not doing that’

i don’t see either of these posts as examples of what you’re talking about? to me this looks like a regular questioning session. “i’m townreading you instead of wolfreading you, is it because of X? what do you think? what do you think about people townreading you, if there are any?”

i kinda see where you’re coming from re: “bradland wants marshal to acknowledge his read on her” which is mildly unaligning but i don’t feel convinced enough to put that on my list

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

arete/wazza not w/w
marshal/wazza not w/w (feeling a bit dubious on this one admittedly but i’m still putting it here)
eli/wazza not w/w (i think arete’s take just above is actually not that bad)
atlas/eli not w/w (i don’t think atlas goes out of his way to metaread eli and call him mafia if they are partners; these two are friends, i’m sure they’d try to help each other instead of throwing shade unprompted, especially since eli wasn’t in the spotlight at all when the read was made)
ybw/arete not w/w (arete keeps using ybw as a springboard to talk about wazza [this isn’t a read on arete] and i don’t think that’s what a wolf continually does at this stage of the game)

oh yeah, i forgot about a very important unalign
wazza/atlas are not w/w

by far the strongest unalign in the game in my opinion

even arete/wazza could theoretically be a result of “let’s argue about some dumb stuff” written in scumchat and then executed

but the way wazza has been talking about atlas’s slot (focusing on its mechanical situation rather than anything it actually posted), and how atlas has mostly refused to engage wazza on it, is a combination that never comes from wolf partners

[Arete]

@Vulgard

to me this looks like a regular questioning session. “i’m townreading you instead of wolfreading you, is it because of X? what do you think? what do you think about people townreading you, if there are any?”

I think it is extremely unlikely to be a regular questioning session

like why would Brad ask Marshal if Marshal thinks that Brad not having been pocketed by her in the past is the reason Brad townreads her

how would Marshal know

[Vulgard]

@Mistyx

/vote min

hi min are you scum

@min

@Mistyx

/vote min

hi min are you scum

no

@Mistyx

ok

min/mistyx not w/w

@Marshal

I also do think mistyx & vul are >rand not w/w just from that so

marshal/mistyx could reasonably be partners based on that post alone honestly
someone even brought it up before (i think marl?)

wazza/marshal interaction in the earlygame feels quite unaligning as well

@clonedcheese

@Atlas

I’m the Sorcerer

Cool

Honestly trusting this cuz “i dont want to blow up town” is a mood

cloned/atlas are not partners
cloned accepting the claim with 0 doubt would probably not be the case if they were partners because he looks better later on if he doesn’t autoaccept it

@clonedcheese

okay im bad but not that bad

I’ll start tunnelling ya once you start giving actual reasonings

@Leafia

V leaning Cloned since he seems villagery at the moment.

unironically townreading leafia for village reading cloned when he’s being wolfy

@ElizaThePsycho

Leafia scum
Exce dee

@Leafia

Explain or you’re scum yourself.

leafia/eli not w/w for leafia’s instant slightly bridling reaction

[Vulgard]

@Arete

why would Brad ask Marshal if Marshal thinks that Brad not having been pocketed by her in the past is the reason Brad townreads her

how would Marshal know

playful theater
i really don’t see the unalign here at the moment
you could be right ofc but i just don’t see it

[Vulgard]

@min

i dont really understand cheese or vul

@clonedcheese

@min

i dont rlly think that “u do not tunnel me so u scum” should be like an actual read for many reasons

he’s
accusing me of being “unnatural” I think?
which
yes, since my first post wasn’t voting Vulgard

@min

whgat

@clonedcheese

long story short
cheese every game : “hur hur vul scum”
cheese this game : doesn’t know Vul exists
Vul : “y u no call me scum, hur hur cheese scum”

@min

that isnt an actual valid read though

this interaction doesn’t feel like theater
ok with unaligning min and cloned