Yes there is. You could kill town PR’s and strong townread players in the blast
also what was Marshal even going on about about not responding to anything scumreading her
catching up on the first 200 ish posts
i think leafia village reading cloned when cloned was under pressure from vulgard and in my opinion not actually being villagery makes me think these two are unlikely to be w/w
specifically if leafia is a wolf i think she is TMI’ing cloned, and if cloned is a wolf i don’t think leafia would risk defending him like this as a partner
oh god
why does my first thought from backreading have to be a preflip
this uh
even though i can’t really trace the thought process here as to why leafia finds this wolfy, it matches her classic early game absurd reads she tends to have as a villager. plus generally i find a pretty good way to read leafia is by how much she’s pushing agenda and how much she’s trying to please people rather than by the traceability of her thoughts
this is starting to look like a leafia iso but their posts really just stick out like a sore thumb lmao
in the last game leafia and atlas played together atlas fakeclaimed on day 1 as a villager, so leafia still thinking being performative and fakeclaiming is wolf indicative for atlas is a pretty big concern
the problem is if she’s mafia, she didn’t really plan on actually pushing atlas with this read; i mean she gave the reasoning after someone asked and didn’t really do anything else with it
this means nothing if both of them are wolves, but in an atlas v world here i would generally expect wolf leafia to either 1. appeal to atlas or 2. come out guns blazing with a vote, not somewhere in the middle
the paranoia to me didn’t feel entirely real
it may just be because whenever i see someone mention talking post-game from my experience it often comes from villagers and so i didn’t have the same worry, but i still wouldn’t village read it
this post feels villagery but im not sure i can explain why
in a different respect, if arete thinks that wazza is just making it more obvious whether atlas is the sorcerer or not by questioning him, then wolf arete probably would want to allow this to continue instead of distracting wazza
obviously this is dependent on how confident arete was at this stage on what atlas’ role is, or means nothing if atlas/arete are w/w but it exists
if atlas isn’t hard to read, why would you risk discussing his claim with him (and if he’s a villager, potentially outting whether or not he is the sorcerer) when you could figure out his alignment in a number of other ways? i dont really get why you’d take this approach with a villager, especially with how insistent you often are that these things shouldn’t be discussed given the amount of times you try to shut claiming situations down:
moving on
what was villagery about this
what would wolf arete do instead
intentions are related to alignment
this feels like an intentional backtrack
Ita not lmao, why tf would he get shot
Brad feels a bit pockety
My pfp was something else lmao
Get one then
What is your read on me if you know I have posts?
Why is this quote from cloned genuinely villagery to me
I’m also ignoring 3very arete wazza post I’m sorry it’s just very tiring to read
Do not feel like scumreading this for my sanity (otherwise I dont rly hate Marshal tbh)
Kiiruma open post not terrible
1 at most 2 if u wanna reach
So many unalignes
I’m town so idc tho
This way of solving is super towny imo
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Vul is trying extremely hard this game
Dunno what this means, but I’m pointing it out
good take from arete
i think the way cloned had the expectation he would start tunneling vulgard after vulgard brought up how cloned hadn’t commented on him almost feels as though cloned wants to intentionally conform to the expectation that he must tunnel vulgard rather than it being genuine
the problem is, and i don’t know why this just popped into my head, but i remember in clown fiesta 2 i think where cob hadn’t done his trust-tell of whatever it was, and he started doing it after someone pointed out he wasn’t, yet he still flipped villager. so i think this read has the potential to be pretty dangerous
i dont think so
if you think about what this actually does, it does not at all help us to kill a wolf and it does not at all help us until we have killed a wolf
therefore it is not doing anything to advance our wincon right now
i think town vulgard would uses his resources more appropriately
his response to me earlier was kind of villagery though
Sup nerds
I woke up way too early and im here now
Oh that’s why nobodys here
in fact i think this is the perfect approach for wolf vulgard to take
he’s known for his accurate anti-aligned reads, he’s good at them
he can expect to be readily sheeped on most of them
therefore it’s perfectly viable for him to force various ones (i’ll make a judgement on the fluidity of how he arrived at each of these reads once i’ve actually caught up, this is just a hypothetical) in order to make his teammates seem unaligned, all while not actually helping to get the first wolf killed and by the time the first wolf is killed these anti-aligned reads would be firmly set in stone among the thread consensus, allowing for an easy win from there
it is doing stuff to advance our wincon
the wincon is to defeat mafia, and vulgard looking at aligns is doing exactly that
in the case where a wolf flips, it is helpful and just ebcause one ahsnt yet doesnt mean vulgard is being antitown
i dont see the “not progressing wincon here” its unique and it is doing that more than u think it is
it’s not being anti-town but that’s not the point i’m making
my point is that it isn’t helping us, because it doesn’t help until we actually get a wolf flip. which this form of solving isnt helping to achieve
Basically arc is saying “it doesn’t help us d1, he should focus on d1”
???
yeah im not following sorry
the town wincondition is to kill the wolves
what vulgard is doing only helps us if we have killed wolves
therefore alone it is not helping us to achieve our wincondition
and in the event that not a single wolf has flipped before lylo, it would have gone the entire game without helping us
the town wincon is to kill the wolves yes
unaligning people based off of that literally finds wolves lmao
just be good at mafia and find the wolves lul