[Game Thread] Morbtainado - Morbfia EPIC win

Mist wasn’t referring to Leafia at all during that conversation, iirc.

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VOTE: Magnus

Misty see I have a problem. On the one hand I am pretty sure you are town because, like I said, town really really hate when I sort people early for silly reasons. it’s like there is a pain in the universe that cries out. So I get the perspective.

But this feels a little bit tunnely at this point. 'You joked with me" is, I will confess to you, very low on the AI scale for me.

Still town but you are probably going to be annoying this game with this type of attitude lol.

Probably when I was wolf.

I know this is a reachy team solve, but Magnus/Squid/Eliza.

But I only have Eliza because of Squid and Magnus.

you vastly overestimate how much stock i put in my early reads

So is that a tell then?

My bad my brain deadass only works when It gets pinged by things

Here I’ll make it more visible.

@Magnus
You either respond to this or I’ll make sure everyone knows your freezing on response.

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Whenever your ready though and back, no rush, just don’t forget to respond when you come back.

Possibly, just one of the first things I see in thread when I come back from sleep is you still talking about me.

Zorvo is right that is a really reachy solve but I like the suspicious of Magnus from a v perspective because I mindmeld with that.

VOTE: Magnus

I want Magnus to apply those psychology tests to v perspectives tbh. I could literally, right now, make a wolf psychology case on anyone who has posted any amount of content in this thread based of of ‘psychology’ but why would I do that when there are only three wolves to find lol. It is much more effective to give a lot of leeway early for people because rand v is simply much more likely than rand w.

This could just be an aggressive solve style but I don’t like it because even as v it’s just going to be messy so let’s make sure we correct Magnus’ solving early if he is v so we can all be happy together.

@min any other big thoughts in general? I can’t say I get the perspective of not reading into things, but any thing will help my sorting ;o

I think pigeon is prob a wolf. Lots of his posts fmpov are riddled with agenda

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Yeah. Going to give Seth here a townlean. I’m pretty good at reading him after all. Mist’s reaction towards my push is something I find slightly weird, but I don’t know if it’s in a villagery kind or wolfy kind of weird.

My read on Achromatic is honestly flipflopping a bit. One minute he’ll say something I find villagery and the next he’ll say something that I find wolfy. Then back to villagery again. It’s kind of creeping me out a bit to be honest. Then again, I’ve only been in one game with him and he does seem similar to how he was in it here. Said game is still ongoing, but he’s a dead villager in it.

Hmmm, tough to say but I do tend to care more about looking like a villager as a wolf I’ve noticed. When a wolf, I’ll do anything if I think it’ll get me towncred and I tend to try to stay clear of things that lose me that towncred. When a villager, all I care about is being listened to and trusted. I’m much less worried about how I actually look so I’m more likely to go for questionable plays.

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Interesting! Can you quote a couple for me? Have you caught wolf pigeon in the past early? I feel like others have been eyeing the pigeon, but I forget who now and a quick scroll made it hard to find.

Going to call it a night now, so good night everyone. :sleepingleafeon:

I’d somewhat agree but I don’t like Magnus here RN and want them to respond to the post I made on them.

I feel like they could be trying to manipulate a back to back Pigeon (-) Leafia ML with Squid and lead them into Night 2 already being in a perfect position at that point.
I know it’s a reach but that’s the vibe I’m getting.

Like all of these posts don’t even look like he believes the reads he is saying

The post on jaiden is overconfident for the content he’s calling wolfy, he actively is fueling the many inaccurate reads on leafia when he knows better and has played with her enough to know leafias scumrange is more than “she gets defensive”, the third post is simply just blatantly self aware in a wolfy way, and the last one is literally not a post anyone makes and again poses with the confidence he has. It simply just gives me the impression he has agenda and is pushing villagers (or even his scummates) regardless he just doesn’t seem to even believe his posts

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I can see all of this. Have you played with pigeon enough as town to note this is different from their own town range?

I disappeared for an hour because I was walking back home… -_-

First of all, my bad. I must have misread Mist’s post, because I wasn’t under the impression that Pigeon and Eliza were being linked, which… I’m not actually sure how I came to that realisation. In any case, I was utterly certain I was right, and I’ve only now realised the extent of my error. My mistake, my bad, I’m sorry, now I’m moving on because I don’t think it’s a big deal.

Town has the advantage playing both proactively and reactively; the more posts attributed to one player, the more information we have regarding them, the more we can accurately determine their alignment and train of thought. This is the reason why minimal posters are an annoyance for the Town to identify, as there’s less data involving them. This is another reason why certain Mafia wolves prefer to post as minimally as possible without appearing suspicious, so Town investigate each other instead and reach the wrong conclusions.

Alternatively, Mafia wolves may post as regularly as a Town member would, hoping to appear villagery. I don’t need to explain this science in-depth, it’s just so we’re on the same page.

In worlds where Leafia is a villager, she’s posting early to increase the number of posts attributed to her, without particularly minding whether she’s seen as Town or Mafia. I’ll jump to a latest post to explain Leafia’s claim, which will make sense later.

There’s more to this than meets the eye: in actuality, I tend to function under a similar modus operandi, so I understand how this works.
When Leafia rolls Town, she knows she’s a villager and doesn’t expect to have to justify herself every minute of the day. She doesn’t reflect on the wording of her posts. Ultimately, Leafia doesn’t reexamine her behaviour in order to appear like a villager, when instead she can read posts, share her thoughts, and help win the game.
When Leafia rolls Mafia, the script is reversed. Suddenly, having all eyes on her isn’t going to win the game, and she suddenly needs to reexamine her behaviour to act as a villager would. She might distance from suspicious wolves for the sake of appearing more good, as an example. The question is whether her posts appear natural or unnatural, and I’m writing this current report under the assumption she’s good.

Leafia’s still in the “RQP (Random Questions Phase)” mindset, which can be seen by her surprise here.

Leafia’s initially defensive, because she doesn’t particularly feel the need to defend herself as a Townie. She doesn’t tunnel Apo for the read and backs off, since she’s trying to help catch Mafia and tunnelling on someone might prove adverse.

As said earlier, inactivity is the bane of all social deduction. I pinged Epitau myself earlier, because these players need to be brought online for everyone to interact with. It wasn’t Leafia’s fault I wasn’t online. I’m not sure she knows my timezone.

Leafia’s providing reads and doesn’t freak out at a vote, although she’s quite clearly alluding to her meta here. Leafia’s known for having acted suspicious before, and therefore she expects to be left alone because it’s in her character.

I personally disagree with this statement, but okay. You can feel jittery while playing as Mafia while still having fun.

I don’t get this response to May’s vote. This would suggest Leafia scumreads May, and yet she seems to suspect Pigeon, myself and sometimes Achromatic as well. There are only four wolves.

(To Pigeon.)

(About Achro.)
If Leafia is Town, I would towncore Zorvo and Mist, with Pigeon and Achromatic as likely suspects. Eliza would be a townlean.
First person down. Started writing this post 40 minutes ago, geez.

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