I think if Marl is a wolf then zorvoās equity might be a little higher
iām still iffy on May but she made some posts on D1 that were significantly better looking than her first few
I have more things to do and an event to be at at 4 so I legit only could get up to post 200 and then i searched for orzoās name and looked so like idk
I think Marl should be flipped before zorvo but likeā¦I think zorvo is likely a wolf regardless so maybe thatās not a reazonable thing
At the risk of looking like a complete dumb dumb if Iām wrong, hereās a case (?) on how Marl/molly/O.kazo could be the solve for this game
Marl ISO
Marlās reaction to Zorvo calling Marl out for saying āthatās not how Zorvo solvesā is eh
the initial correction of grammar feels like a deflection and the actual response is very bland and has no detail or elaboration
^comment on Vulgard voting O.kazo
could easily be soft-defending a scumbuddy but not conclusive
Marl outs their 2 scumreads only after Vulgard comments on it
unsure why Marl would comment and later push Silviu when they scumread Silviu āto a lesser extentā than Brad
my speculation is that it could be because Silviu is an easier push
Marlās reads
again, Brad is a whole chunk below Silviu
putting min below O.kazo because of a ālmaoā
granted, it was likely a joke but it looks like a bad excuse to put O.kazo higher
checks out with my previous comment
votes Brad
^response to Vul saying they would consider Magnus/Marl because Marl TRād Vul too easily when Marl is usually more paranoid and Marl defended Magnus on thin reasons
I donāt like this joke response that completely just ignores points made wrt Marl themselves - it feels like a deflection
then immediately shifting focus onto someone else (Brad)
if Marl is scum, Brad is likely spewed town
like the response to Zorvo, the real reply comes after the joke one (which does look better than joke response only)
explanation for TRing Vul as āseein the same things I wasā is vague
pivot to Brad feels a little weird
again, a pretty abrasive response
Marl realizes they might be missing something or not understanding but doesnāt try to get to the bottom of it
disengaging when Brad asks if Marl has anything else
ok Marl was going to sleep so thatās fair ig
this honestly doesnāt look great in hindsight - looks like Marl is discrediting Zorvo while painting O.kazo as a LHF villager
prefers Silviu over O.kazo
reasons are kind of weak (struggle to read O.kazo)
doesnāt go for Brad? was their previous interaction convincing? Marl just kind of drops it in favor of more consensus POE slots
but still puts Silviu over O.kazo
this just came out of nowhere?
what happened to the Brad SR?
itās also kind of concerning because Marl put min under O.kazo for saying ālmaoā before so itās like building more padding for O.kazo (this part is a bit reachy on my end though)
as pointed out by Vulās post, I donāt think Marl believes this
it was also v. abrupt a thought
this is fair tbh but doesnāt look great in light of O.kazo flip
this, along with the āIām going to be NKād postā feels like Marl is trying to get a doc
itās fine in vacuum ig
this was indeed not a great reason to push min
minās reaction could be part of the reason they were NKād
these posts I really hate
as soon as Vul starts to SR Marl, Marl starts OMGUSing and giving Vul a false dichotomy to fall into: either accept that they are āplaying really badlyā/joycatting or accept that they are a wolf
the idea is repeated multiple times
Marl essentially holds Vul in high esteem (as a good player) and guilts them for not finding Marl town instead of actually addressing any of Vulās concerns
Marl also contrasts their high regard for Vul with their treatment of 2 other players, Zorvo and min, discrediting both
again saying O.kazo is a coin flip
someone mentioned this already but O.kazo is mentioned twice
shows how much Marl is thinking of/aware of O.kazo, which could be indicative of Marl/O.kazo being w/w
with the number of times that Marl has said O.kazo was a ācoinflipā or ādifficult to readā or ānullā to them, itās strange that O.kazo is brought up twice here - real nulls are often forgotten
this would make sense, however, if Marl was partnered with O.kazo and theyāve been trying to downplay their partner as a good exe by calling them a ācoinflipā but are also very much aware of O.kazo so when asked for scumreads, to bring up O.kazo not once, but twice
^wrt to Brad
this doesnāt check out b/c in previous post Brad was 2nd wolf after Silviu and Brad was at the very bottom in Marlās reads list
fmpov this also reads like TMI of me being town, esp. since when Marl first saw Bradās TR of me, their comment was that while Marl liked my post, Marl thought it was NAI
no other read was given on me since then so townleaning Brad for townreading me doesnāt make sense to me
ATE to min and Vul
this looks like Marl is guilt-tripping Vul for āmaking the game difficultā for Marl?
backpedaling on min is a meh look
^comment to Vul saying they will sheep Marl today and if it isnāt a wolf, Vul will find one the next day
I also donāt like this
feels like Marl is trying to absolve themselves of blame should Silviu flip town but at the same time is refusing to vote with Vul on O.kazo
reply to Troll saying wolves are in Magnus/Vul/Marl
contradicts previous scumread of Vul - Marl doesnāt believe their reads
Marl is not trying to see whether this is from town!Zorvo or scum!Zorvo but just keeps saying Zorvo is wrong
the part on dying at night is, again, not great imo
anyway, I hate this entire reads list
this is exactly the kind of reads list I would make as a wolf
itās so full of non-info and thereās also a lot of non-reads (Troll, May, Eliza, Brad, min, lol, O.kazo, Silviu, me)
only TR on Vul, Zorvo town, Magnus hedgy town, molly town for meta (not great reasoning and has scum potential tbh)
this is kinda ew
w/w potential with molly even though it was Vul that brought it up first
TMI Silviu being town
the pivot on me and Brad is not great
fmpov this looks like Marl is trying to play off O.kazo spew
O.kazo was soft-defending Marl weirdly saying reaching postcap was towny :joycat:
Marl brings up a good point and tries to act confused about it
I think theyāre really focused on how O.kazo made them appear EOD and theyāre trying to make it look like itās part of their solving
ugh
yeah, this is just bad
discrediting min, whoās a dead JOAT
self-meta is also ew, esp. with how Marl quoted their final read on min - like they already planned this excuse
I think I will end Marlās ISO here
pretty sure Iāve made my point
if this isnāt a wolf, idk what is
molly ISO
first vote on Silviu
case on Silviu
there is a lot that is just info that I think isnāt needed (about Zorvo and Eliza)
very wordy
I initially had similar thoughts on Silviu so I actually liked this post at the time
looking backā¦ itās ok ig
this is the kind of case I could see from a wolf though
this is fair
friendly and vague
post is still ok
putting Marl as obv. villa
could be w/w imo but Iām kind of getting ahead of myself here
villa Vul is dependent on Vul TRing Marl
focus is on same people as Marl
reads
focus on min - add a little hedge
the first part looks so partnered with Marl it should look unpartnered but I think it was made that way on purpose (if not, then lol me)
itās like openly justifying defending Marl and it makes sense since Marl is their top TR (but why is Marl getting TRās so hard? iirc, it was for ātowny commaderieā (which I saw as pocketing Vulgard)
the rest is fine
when did Marl shield May?
molly has TMI on May being town?
votes O.kazo at this point
4 on O.kazo and 3 on Silviu (molly being one of the 3) before this
now 5 on O.kazo and 2 on Silviu
focus on O.kazo voting Vul for avoiding cap
I think itās trying to take attention away from the fact O.kazo spewed Marl by soft-defending Marl for reaching the cap
O.kazo would go down sooner or later so I can see this from scum to bus O.kazo at this point to take attention away from scumpartner while solidifying themselves as town for making the exe a reality
again, I think itās diverting attention away from Marl to Vul
imo mollyās reasoning for TRing Marl is weak compared to defense of Marl
^response to Trollās question if thereās a wolf on O.kazo and if counterwagon has wolves if O.kazo flips red
molly doesnāt give a very clear answer
imo thereās likely wolves on both wagons (molly and Marl) - this was unnecessary b/c yāall knew what I thought
this is admittedly a nice post
saying it TMIs me as town is probably too much of a reach
ugh
the comment on Marl is actually fine too
still canāt agree on the TR
Iāll end mollyās ISO here
basically, itās not that I scumread molly individually, but more that I can see a Marl/molly/O.kazo team
everyone else I either have solid TRs on and/or are not associated with Marl or O.kazo imo
molly just happened to be that single slot left over, which was why when I recalled that thereās precisely 3 scum, that I got excited
individually, molly would be like a low townlean for me