GOAT^2 - Game Thread (5/15) - Day 6 - Mafia wonnered

[Lemonfairy]

iirc I think they weren’t doing much until like D3 or D4 in the last game I was town with them
idk, I’m going to be optimistic about it because last time I tried to kill them

[Vulgard]

the may take however i can see being legitimate and probably a good look if may flips mafia at any point
by itself is kinda whatever though

[Vulgard]

i feel like you just want to kill molly and go from there

[KingTroll]

VOTE: illwei

[Vulgard]

lemonfairy >rand v this day phase for actually caring about the game and not making agenda pushes

[Vulgard]

VOTE: Illwei

[Lemonfairy]

@Vulgard

if you mean may’s exercise then idk what it’s supposed to accomplish either

I think I was hoping that if there was someone you all TR, I’d find them as town too idk
it didn’t work out

@Vulgard

the problem is we’re super easy people to cast doubt on but i also feel like we’ve been obvious town
me and zorvo at least
but zorvo torpedoes his credibility every time he tries to argue a read and i’m a popular suspicion target

so these reads don’t do anything for me in terms of “this is spicy and anti-consensus, might be town”

see htf where i buried a wolf d1 and me being on a town wagon d2 prompted two highposting villas to iso me and one of them wolfcased me while i was getting nightkilled

fair

I think the main thing on Illwei’s slot that makes me not feel ok about exe-ing there is the interaction between O.kazo and Silviu where O.kazo asks the latter to not out their main
the reason being that wolves would say that in scumchat and therefore saying it in thread makes them unaligned

idk how much salt should be put on that though

[Lemonfairy]

um maybe
I want to exe them to find out if I was at least half right or totally wrong and I think they have decent wolf equity but at the same time, I’m scared to push for it in case I am wrong

[Vulgard]

@Lemonfairy

yeah, I don’t think mafia would backpedal after quoting like this?
it kind of shows that it’s the posts that changed Eliza’s mind rather than Eliza changing their mind and trying to fit the posts to it

i’ve seen her do an extremely similar backtrack as mafia (posts quoted below)

posts quoted here

@ElizaThePsycho

all of these reasons suck

@ElizaThePsycho

@Achromatic

• His explanation of leafia’s chainsaw doesnt make a lot of sense in the context of her posts about vul and wazza as i pointed out. If you disagree please resd our exchange about this and let me know how i am wrong.

okay i can’t really argue against this one cuz i haven’t seen it but

@ElizaThePsycho

@Achromatic

• Their stance on wind/leafia doesnt make much sense with leafia’s anti wolf meta as wolf. I dont feel like it is natural to suspect defending her if she is known to implode. I dont think someone trying to solve should need this pointed out to them. Again. Willing to hear disagreements.

idk i can’t read this very well without context

@ElizaThePsycho

@Achromatic

1. Ego centric but i dont like how he has handled me and i feel like he genuinely fumbled trying to explain his null read of me. Actively want to hear more takes on this.

this is literally just marl
probably
actually maybe the “fumbled” part i didn’t catch that on first readthrough

@ElizaThePsycho

mabe they don’t actively suck but all of them provide no evidence imo

guess the main difference is that she sticks to the read in the end instead of changing it a bit but it seems similar to me

@Lemonfairy

@ElizaThePsycho

hey guys i suddenly remembered why i wolfread marl

thanks lemon for liking this one partciular post

this can’t be fake
scum would not fake being reminded about why they scumread someone b/c of a like
and also, since wolves’ reads are fake, they would take more care in remembering who they scumread

i think eliza having no pulse is nai

@Lemonfairy

@ElizaThePsycho

(at this point my reasons for thinking marl wolf have fallen apart and im really only doing it because i don’t know who else outside of like

idk
magnus?)

uncertainty
it’s fine

this is probably eliza’s towniest post actually
next to the one i quoted some time ago

@Lemonfairy

I think the main thing on Illwei’s slot that makes me not feel ok about exe-ing there is the interaction between O.kazo and Silviu where O.kazo asks the latter to not out their main
the reason being that wolves would say that in scumchat and therefore saying it in thread makes them unaligned

idk how much salt should be put on that though

i’ve been thinking about that too especially since i’m the one who first noticed it but i don’t think i’m comfortable with clearing illwei’s slot based on that interaction especially since illwei’s just been coasting since replacing into the game

meh idk about eliza i feel like you have some good points about her but i’m not sure

[Vulgard]

i feel like we should kill illwei

[KingTroll]

i feel like if i was an outside observer i would be scumreading the hell out of myself for how i acted yesterday. i should’ve hardpushed illwei that was where my wifom was leading me anyway

if illwei flips town then i’ll be an extremely easy lynch on d4 so ehhhhhhhhh hard to get my wim up

[Lemonfairy]

I’m not against it tbh

[Vulgard]

you did a little trolling, king

[KingTroll]

@Vulgard

you did a little trolling, king

[Zorvo]

@Vulgard

VOTE: Illwei

Bad

[Zorvo]

Vulgard and Eliza are W/W prob.

[Zorvo]

MY POINT HAS BEEN PROVEN!

Vulgard Votes Eliza yesterday for distancing
Today votes 2 people not Eliza and doesn’t plan to go there today over the other 2 ML’s.

[Zorvo]

Then after the Ml’s Vulgard may consider bussing Eliza

[YoubutWorse]

@Lemonfairy

@Illwei

Lemon prob town

which I like for uh reasons

you should not townread people just bc of their reads on you

[YoubutWorse]

I still would much rather kill Eliza over Illwei
Not bummed by Illwei execution, just prefer Eliza greatly

@Vulgard

meh idk about eliza i feel like you have some good points about her but i’m not sure

This was something I was plannign to make in my case later. The points you make against Eliza are fine~, but they are all things she has faked and can do as scum. Nothing Eliza has done is omething she can’t do as scum, even the post “this can’t be fake” is something she has literally done in scumgames. Eliza says she forgets reads constantly, even as scum, for what reason I’m not sure. (seriously just write them down in your RC, or like notes app)