GOAT^2 - Game Thread (5/15) - Day 6 - Mafia wonnered

[mollylikesorigami]

“you’re stretching because”

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V

“the amount you’re stretching is too much because”

that’s how i read it at least?

[May]

Oh, huh, yeah, that interpretation makes sense. Guess it wasn’t necessarily one, then

[mollylikesorigami]

@May

Basically, if Zorvo is wolf, probably a wolf in Brad/Vulgard. If Brad is wolf, probably at maximum one wolf in Zorvo/YBW, but those two easily could be V/V. All very early, subject to change.

god i wish i could somehow call any of this w/w or not w/w but it’s just a clusterfuck to think about lol

@May

@Vulgard

@May

everyone providing content is townie and everyone trying to hinder that process is wolfy.

Is this what you genuinely believe?

No

14/150

if may’s a wolf, this kinda feels like she retracted to not incur the wrath of a villager

i’m not quoting all the posts of brad and may arguing about mafia theory, they exist and there are a lot and they go nowhere

@May

@BradLand

VOTE: Silviu

Susus amongus

25/150

noting this to see if it goes anywhere

@May

I was, and yeah, very similar circumstances, he seemed an obvious wolf but just… wasn’t. I think it’s part of what makes the O kazo vote feel like a ML to me. I advocated for it in Flicker because I needed his flip, but I don’t think that’s useful here.

i… don’t know if this is just me seeing three people involved in one interaction and going “that’s not a team”, but i think this would be a pretty odd full team interaction. having one partner help the bussed wolf go over, while the other makes herself look actively worse off of the flip at the exact same time. weird plan.

@May

Hi! Thank you for asking. I completely misremembered your actions on D1 and for some reason thought you placed a vote on O kazo before switching over to Silviu. This is the kind of logic that underlies all of my decisions.

@May

No I doublechecked your iso you definitely didn’t I’m just being the circus clown today

scratch what i said about the one post where may sussed brad maybe being relevant, may has the memory of a goldfish so it’s not important lol

@May

What about find the scumteam, who are KingTroll and Molly,

@May

I will do so… shortly. (<-- Guy who is kicking the can of “doing literally any work” down the forever hole) (This is NAI for me)

these reactions to vul’s pressure feels like she doesn’t feel any actual threat from vul

@May

If the wolves are Vulgard and O kazo? Absolutely. I think they’d know O kazo was getting eliminated early, and I could see it as Vulgard trying to just get it over with and bus early for massive towncred (and O kazo taking the distance a bit too far, such that it wraps around a little).

I don’t strongly wolfread Vulgard at this point, but that interaction is completely plausible to be W/W.

this has a sense of “leaving the door open” that looks not w/w

@May

Yeah, what you’re looking at is that I’ve been playing this game badly. I am not playing it well. I usually do this for a while at the start of each game, and then get it together one I figure out who the wolves are, but unfortunately I haven’t done that, and logging off for a while to meditate on it didn’t help much (mostly because I spent most of it sleeping for 14 hours).

The readlist I gave was bad and inaccurate and I knew it was - I called them “shit” in the post itself. It was like… a list of… hm, how do I put this, vibes and tone? The sort of “what are my initial, kneejerk reactions, what do I think thread’s consensus on them is”, and I didn’t expect it to actually be a list of the scum? I know it’s strange to say that about a readlist, but, like… it’s what it was.

I need to get it together, I really do, and I appreciate the push to do so. My progression on Molly has been garbage and my attitude toward Eliza was bad - for the record, it was “I don’t think she’ll really flip scum but I’m not winning this fight and I don’t want to look like I’m hard defending her because then I’ll be so killed if I’m wrong”, the latter part of the argument being what’s so terrible about it - and that’s my fault. I just… dunno if I’m going to figure it out this game, honestly, I’m sick and tired and confused, and I didn’t set myself up for success earlier. I’ll do my best, of course, but I don’t think it’s going to be good enough.

this time vul’s push prompted an impassioned self-defense from may

@May

I can at least try to encourage my townreads to help do the work for me.

Illwei, since you primarily scumread Vulgard, could I ask you to make a readlist of the living players solely in terms of chance to be Vulgard’s remaining partner? I think that’d help me think about this execution in a more informed manner (when currently I’m just… not thinking about it at all).

okay this would be really, really brave if it were w/w lol, way too close to home for most wolves to be comfortable doing it

[mollylikesorigami]

i’m cutting short because jesus fuck i’ve been in may’s iso for a whole hour?

my main takeaway is just that i keep seeing things between may/vul that i’d need to stretch to call w/w

brad/may interactions inconclusive

[mollylikesorigami]

but i also feel like brad’s kinda been catting today lol

he’s barely solving at all, in mylo. apparently he thinks i’m lock wolf, but he’s doing virtually nothing to actually get me killed. what he’s put his effort into today is defending himself, and he’s mostly just limply copy/pasted bits of his self defense from past days. it feels like he doesn’t actually care who dies today in general.

[May]

@mollylikesorigami

i’m cutting short because jesus fuck i’ve been in may’s iso for a whole hour?

My nebulous-to-nonexistent sense of time is contagious.

I’m going to head to bed now. The only way, FMPOV, that Brad isn’t a wolf is if it’s Vulgard/Molly, which would be SUPER fucked and is very unlikely, so… Molly, stop me in the next two minutes if I shouldn’t place a vote on Brad right now, otherwise I’ll do it.

[mollylikesorigami]

yeah one vote isn’t enough to trigger a hammer do what you want

[May]

Let’s hear it for outsourcing impulse control VOTE: Brad

[mollylikesorigami]

i could technically join you on brad just for fun, because you can’t both be town so it wouldn’t lose the game lmao

[mollylikesorigami]

i won’t but it would’ve been really funny

[May]

Anyway it’s straight up just Brad and Vulgard I think. If Molly is a wolf, I’m happy to lose to her, but she doesn’t have much equity with Vulgard and Molly/Brad doesn’t pick these nightkills. I don’t think there’s any further analysis I need to do internally. I’ll probably be around trying to convince you all of this, but, like… not sure I have any room to be wrong here

[mollylikesorigami]

@mollylikesorigami

i think the may tr is being a little oversold, but they are pretty consistently villagery, and a few of the strongest trs on them seem unaligned from them, so i’m not worried wolves are like, taking advantage of the read or anything.

@mollylikesorigami

i’m not voting vul today lmao i think he’s been very villagery, especially around when he started cooling off of his marl wolf read

@mollylikesorigami

i gotta run for dinner

wanna rep a reasonably strong townread on brad for his posts today before i go

[BradLand]

VOTE: May

[Host_Account_1]

BradLand (1): May
May (1): BradLand

Not Voting (4): Lemonfairy, mollylikesorigami, YoubutWorse, Vulgard

Day ends 2022-10-07T22:00:00Z

[Vulgard]

You said you would start solving today
You aren’t
What are you doing

[BradLand]

Bare minumum.

[Vulgard]

Explain your May vote
You didn’t give a read on May when asked
Why should I think this isn’t just OMGUS

[BradLand]

Lemonfairy/YBW are JOAT and Doc Save.
I’m town.
You’re probably town.

Remaining is May and Molly.

I’ve solved it for you.

[BradLand]

We’re in MYLO with everyone looking back and doing isos and research and I’m just here going.

“It’s cool, baby, I got this!”

[BradLand]

If you think about it Vulgard, if you’re mafia, I’m basically giving you a free win.

If you’re town, I’m also giving you a free win.