GOAT^2 - Game Thread (5/15) - Day 6 - Mafia wonnered

[Vulgard]

i also really dislike the fact she dropped a wolfread on magnus and then never talked about it again

[Magnus]

I should head to sleep. Is it alright if I vote Ilwei? Even if they flip Town I understand and agree with the general reasoning about executing players you can’t ever trust to be Town.

[YoubutWorse]

@Marluxion

i think ybw is more likely to be wolf

have u ever explained why
like ik ur good enough to know what alignment I am by now

@Marluxion

ybw and illwei both think i’m scum but aren’t voting me

this isnt true
actual evidence u havent read my posts lmao

@Vulgard

i think eliza is pretty likely to be a wolf and especially if marl is town

did u read the one thread I linked (silent hill FM), I asked other people to read it and see if they thought they were similar but literally no one did. I think they look p similar imo but I was gonna skim through a town game and as well and see what I thought of that

[Magnus]

@YoubutWorse

ik ur good enough to know what alignment I am by now

Are you actually expecting Marl to automatically know your alignment?

[YoubutWorse]

No I’m expecting him to read me correctly bc he has played with me before. I’m not good at the game, I am not a good wolf, I am not a good town, but man can I make it fucking obvious when I am town and I have done that this game. If you read my posts you can see that

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

oh my gosh I forgot about that

[Magnus]

VOTE: Ilwei
If you all decide to execute someone else, go nuts. I’d just figure I’d try to help save Marl with this.

[Vulgard]

ybw

posts i found towny

@YoubutWorse

@Zorvo

I don’t really think a very likely pre-written post is Townie.

@Zorvo

YouButWorse - Null Town

You say my pre-written post isn’t very townie yet then put be at null town. I know the read doesn’t have much value as its still very slight and vibey but I was wondering why you switched your perspective on me?

i like this

@YoubutWorse

@BradLand

A weird list for me…something feels off.

Town:
May
Marl
Zorvo
Eliza

@BradLand

Order is legit although there might be a gap between May and Marl. Feel decent about them so far.

I finally figured out what was bugging me about this readlist

So you put eliza on there, seemingly on a weird whim. I question you about it and you provide reasoning for everyone but Eliza. Bradland, when you get the chance, could you explain your read on Eliza? I don’t really townread her at all and was wondering why you did esp since you never really explained it.

this is good
the inquisitiveness and where she’s going ring towny to me
i’m realizing these are less and less elaborate explanations as i go along

@YoubutWorse

concesus

@YoubutWorse

consensus

these are both in the same sentence
conceSUS

@YoubutWorse

@Marluxion

I do think he’s a coin flip though, but it might be one we have to take.

I hate how Marl keeps saying this as it feels like a wolf trying to kill a LHF town and then deny it afterwards as “something we had to do eventually”. You can say you don’t know how to read someone, but I absolutely hate “it might be one we have to take.” That is so scummy to me

i actually like this take even though i think marl is town, it just weirdly conflicts with the part where she wolfreads me for wolfreading marl

@YoubutWorse

Actually I got a spicy take that I kinda had before but I’m coming around to again and I wanna hear thoughts

VOTE: ElizathePsycho

@YoubutWorse

You haven’t provided a lot of substance or many unique reads with reasoning. Your thinking throughout the entire game has stayed kinda stagnant, which I see as scum indicative. Also, like NOBODY has talked about you, besdies like small mentions in readlists which is very weird to me. Not that you’re a super polarized or discussed slot normally, but I feel like nobody has mentioned a direct read that isn’t like ‘nulltown/null’ and I find that strange as there isn’t much reason to townread you in the first place. I don’t know if this is a better or worse kil than O.kazo, probably isn’t if okazo doesn’t show up again, but I think Eliza needs to be discussed at the very least (thanks for asking eliza glad you responded to the ping in scumchat that fast)

this is okay
god i hate the constant scumchat mentions

@YoubutWorse

The way you brought up the sivliu wagon in the post I quoted earlier to m read as a mafia trying to make both wagons look like good options when it’s v/w. If okazo is mafia, you are the first person I would look at bc it looked like you were trying to make both wagons viable and convince people to potentially go for silviu later when your scum partner okazo was on the block. Thats how I view it at least, doesn’t make a ton of sense probably but it does to me

i like this even though i think it’s wrong

@YoubutWorse

@Vulgard

I think him getting put at L-1 twice is indicative of wolves trying to ml him because i refuse to believe it’s just villagers causing this

i can accept this reasoning and is honestly what I was thinking but I am still mad at marl and feel like he should be able to townread me easily rn

towny turnaround

posts i found scummy

@YoubutWorse

My objective this game is to have fun, and also post less bc of that whole postcap thing which I don’t think I’ll hit but still

this seems kinda tonally off but eh

@YoubutWorse

So how do we get out of RVS bc i wanna like actually do stuff but at the same time no one has put out any readable content

so does this

@YoubutWorse

I refuse to learn to spell any word properly and honestly the fact you’re condemning me for it is kinda scummy :/

and idk if this is towny anymore

@YoubutWorse

Vulgard - Their posts feel towny to me, but only kinda like vaguely townie. I also know Vulgard is good at the game as I got hard pocketed by them by second game ever so I am scared of them. I have them more towards null however despite all this because of the vote/unvote on Magnus, where I think a town player would be more likely to keep the vote rather than unvoting as it seemed to be more of a pressure vote to me.

Zorvo - IDK how tf u read seth so Im gonna rely on other people for this one. Like he voted and scumread lol bc of the postcap thing which I dont think is AI in the slightest but I dont know if thats scummy or not for seth.

Magnus - I dont really understand a lot of his logic on things as they are based on very micro actions like a disagreement on a read turning into entire unaligns. I dont think thats the worst way of reading peoplex but usually you need to know who the wolves are before you can unalign, and it all seems kinda preflippy to me. Not that pre-flipping is like super duper scummy, town do it all the time. Its just overall for magnus, I cant really follow his line of thinking.

Eliza - As stated earlier, still think she was kinda awkward in the start of the game. I haven’t re-read it and that doesnt make her lockscum, but scum are less likely to easily sink into thread like town can, so Im leaning towards her being scum a teensy bit still. We still have a lot of time left in day though, so more content would obviously help in this read.

not sure if she believes the magnus vote reasoning in the read on me
she punts both her read on zorvo and his read on magnus despite saying a lot of words about both
eliza is also kind of a punted read

this post doesn’t really say much but manages to be a miniwall

@YoubutWorse

I townread May like a lot, would never want them dead today

there’s not much progression on that read and it feels like it’s sheeping thread consensus, i don’t think it’s super wolfy though because may did come across as very villagery on day 1

@YoubutWorse

Right now I like the silviu wagon more as it seems a bit more pure to me (I TR both molly and may, and disagree with vulgard on Marl)

interesting that she said this here considering her take on marl today

@YoubutWorse

The O.Kazo wagon I dont fully understand, whicj may just be because a lot of people are reading O kazo on meta while Ive never ayed witb them before (I think)

Vulgard voting marl is weird to me? Esp since they also scumread O kazo, who is an actual wagon. Marl seems to be someone who’d never really get voted today so I dont fully get the vote on hin besides showing “I scumread this player”, which couldve just been said.

i’m reading this part and in hindsight it looks like it’s tming o. kazo mafia in the process of making me look bad for not voting them

@YoubutWorse

@KingTroll

TE: Vulgard

Was catching up and literally had it in my mind “vulgard is being kinda wolfy I might vote them” and then i saw this. You are amazing and the best towns memeber kingtroll thank you for being what this town needs

i feel like whenever someone wolfreads me i think it’s bad and i mark the wolfread as wolfy, i should probably stop because there’s no way everyone who wolfread me is a wolf (some are villagers with questionable reasoning)

@YoubutWorse

My thoughts on the ISO of vulgard is that vulgard still rings as scum to me, their actions still don’t make a ton of sense to me and that ISO pointed out things I didn’t notice and also forgot.

i really feel like she’s punting her read on me though
like she punted a lot of her previous reads

@YoubutWorse

Okazo do you have any thoughts on being the main wagon?

i don’t know what this question is supposed to accomplish

@YoubutWorse

VOTE: Marluxion

Honestly this is the person i think i most want dead rn, not that I’m too mad about okazo or silviu, I think this flip gives us the most info overall, no matter the alignment. Someone can easily convince me on okazo or silviu tho

ehhhhhhhhhhh

@YoubutWorse

thing is I’m not a super big fan of people on either wagon (wagon should be in quotes considering its 6 votes v 2)
ill prob stay on marl bc lol vanity but if I had to vote it wouldve been on okazo

ehhhhhhhh
yet another person who looks like they’re talking about wolfreading o. kazo for pure optics because they aren’t voting them

@YoubutWorse

Vulgard kinda super convincin me on magnus ngl

idk why she hasn’t read magnus or talked about him at all until this point aside from the d1 read i mentioned earlier which she basically punted

@YoubutWorse

Im posting this now (still catching up) but I looked in the replies, and people were CONVINCED by this? Fucking actually? Like seriously? I guess only bradland said that (and kingtroll voted magnus which is based af) but like this is just a terrible case, nothing said against me really makes any sense. I want to vote Magnus and I dont care if its OMGUS

oh so magnus wrote a terrible wolfcase on you as well?
i also see you’re wolfreading eliza, i’m actually inclined to agree with you i’ll look into silent hill in a moment

i think ybw has decent odds of being town who just has incorrect reads fmpov, though a few things do ping me outside of reads (mainly one post about o. kazo toward the end of yesterday)
ultimately i’m leaning town

[Magnus]

VOTE: Illwei.
Typo.

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

Clicking on the vulgard notifications resulted in all of thread being marked read

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

@YoubutWorse

The O.Kazo wagon I dont fully understand, whicj may just be because a lot of people are reading O kazo on meta while Ive never ayed witb them before (I think)

Vulgard voting marl is weird to me? Esp since they also scumread O kazo, who is an actual wagon. Marl seems to be someone who’d never really get voted today so I dont fully get the vote on hin besides showing “I scumread this player”, which couldve just been said.

i’m reading this part and in hindsight it looks like it’s tming o. kazo mafia in the process of making me look bad for not voting them

this is probably the post in ybw’s iso that concerns me the most because i keep reading it and i keep thinking it’s trying to make me look bad on a future day for not voting a wolf
ybw’s interactions with o. kazo are also very uninspiring, she asks o. kazo one question with an unclear objective and that’s it
pivoting from that into infoyeeting marl is also pretty abd

[Vulgard]

@ElizaThePsycho

oh my gosh I forgot about that

how

[YoubutWorse]

@Vulgard

pivoting from that into infoyeeting marl is also pretty abd

tbf it wasnt completely an infoyeet, I did also scumread marl at the time

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

this is probably the post in ybw’s iso that concerns me the most because i keep reading it and i keep thinking it’s trying to make me look bad on a future day for not voting a wolf
ybw’s interactions with o. kazo are also very uninspiring, she asks o. kazo one question with an unclear objective and that’s it
pivoting from that into infoyeeting marl is also pretty abd

i think ybw is still ?probably? town because i know her wolfsiding with reads is nai for her and i correctly found her as town by approaching her slot like this in sorcerer 17er (iirc), i’m just really concerned about the stuff surrounding o. kazo because i feel like she didn’t even try to solve that slot and instead went onto the cw + the only interaction with o. kazo is a nothingburger

[Vulgard]

@Lemonfairy

• P#989 saying Marl was trying to kill LHF
• P#1006 noting Brad putting Eliza in town with no reasoning
• P#1062 while I don’t agree with it, the POV that Brad could be scum for the way they talked about both Silv and kazo being good exes when Silv/kazo could be v/w felt suuuper towny to me. Like, this is something I don’t think a wolf would notice and then zone into. I think it’s much more likely to come from a town that’s been hyperfocused on solving for someone to make a take that is so nuanced.

i feel like you’re giving ybw a bit too much credit for these takes to be honest
these aren’t bad takes i just think there’s a fair bit in the iso that overshadows that
if anything i think ybw might be town for wolfsiding too hard

[Vulgard]

if marl is a wolf i guess i’ll have to throw out half my reads because i’m realizing that i predicate a lot on me being correct about him

[lol]

@Vulgard

glad your cat’s okay though you’re probably not reading this

thanks

[YoubutWorse]

@Vulgard

i know her wolfsiding with reads is nai for her

im right here :(

[Vulgard]

from what i’ve read so far

town: marl, kt, brad, zorvo, lol
town?: ybw
mafia??: lemonfairy
mafia but with only one ?: eliza

if you want to sheep anything from this list after i die sheep the townreads
the list might expand once i read the other players

[lol]

vulgard’s going off holy shit