GOAT^2 - Game Thread (5/15) - Day 6 - Mafia wonnered

[KingTroll]

UNVOTE

[Illwei]

Katze hates me

[Illwei]

Katze took away my voting power

[lol]

i love katze

@katze big fan keep up the good work

[Illwei]

I have more things to do and an event to be at at 4 so I legit only could get up to post 200 and then i searched for orzo’s name and looked so like idk

I think Marl should be flipped before zorvo but like…I think zorvo is likely a wolf regardless so maybe that’s not a reazonable thing

[Lemonfairy]

At the risk of looking like a complete dumb dumb if I’m wrong, here’s a case (?) on how Marl/molly/O.kazo could be the solve for this game

Marl ISO

@Marluxion

you’re

@Marluxion

If “You are” fits in the place it’s ‘You’re’
If it’s possessive like “Your read” or “Your dog”, ‘Your’ is correct.

@Marluxion

also i dont really care if the read is accurate or not, i care about where it come from and why

i dont think the quoted interaction is even remotely ai for either player but i think you making the read could be

Marl’s reaction to Zorvo calling Marl out for saying “that’s not how Zorvo solves” is eh
the initial correction of grammar feels like a deflection and the actual response is very bland and has no detail or elaboration

@Marluxion

respectable vote, could see them going either way

^comment on Vulgard voting O.kazo
could easily be soft-defending a scumbuddy but not conclusive

@Marluxion

Brad and to a lesser extent Silviu

Marl outs their 2 scumreads only after Vulgard comments on it

@Marluxion

this part is what pinged me mostly
there is a lot of assuming happening here and very little actual deduction
it’s like it’s assuming he’s town and trying to explain his behavior that way

unsure why Marl would comment and later push Silviu when they scumread Silviu “to a lesser extent” than Brad
my speculation is that it could be because Silviu is an easier push

@Marluxion

Marl
Vulgard
May

Magnus
Eliza
Lol

Zorvo

Molly
Kingtroll
Lemon

O.kazo
min
YBW
Silviu

BradLand

Marl’s reads
again, Brad is a whole chunk below Silviu

@Marluxion

ybw’s posts have weird energy like they have something to prove
only reason i can see for that is if they are wolf

min just hasn’t been towny yet and also said lmao making them slightly worse than okazo who i could feasibly see going either direction

putting min below O.kazo because of a “lmao”
granted, it was likely a joke but it looks like a bad excuse to put O.kazo higher

@Marluxion

for legal purposes my lawyer has requested that i elaborate that this is a joke and min is roughly the same as okazo but one had to be lower

checks out with my previous comment

@Marluxion

VOTE: Bradland

votes Brad

@Marluxion

You aren’t right on Magnus

^response to Vul saying they would consider Magnus/Marl because Marl TR’d Vul too easily when Marl is usually more paranoid and Marl defended Magnus on thin reasons
I don’t like this joke response that completely just ignores points made wrt Marl themselves - it feels like a deflection

@Marluxion

Also I don’t wanna be that guy but the instant Brad froze and tried to play a townread he gave off as a joke he became basically lock w

then immediately shifting focus onto someone else (Brad)
if Marl is scum, Brad is likely spewed town

@Marluxion

Half of the reason I TRd Vul is because I thought he was seeing the same things I was

It’s p common knowledge Brad Is a relatively frozen wolf usually and when he’s town he’s a gigachad wrecking ball of destruction

Thought Vul was just taking the easy w there

like the response to Zorvo, the real reply comes after the joke one (which does look better than joke response only)
explanation for TRing Vul as “seein the same things I was” is vague
pivot to Brad feels a little weird

@Marluxion

I don’t really get what you’re trying to say here or how it is supposed to make me change my mind

again, a pretty abrasive response

@Marluxion

I’m probably missing something

@Marluxion

I’m almost certainly missing something context wise

@Marluxion

I have nothing else for you rn captain, return to your duties

Marl realizes they might be missing something or not understanding but doesn’t try to get to the bottom of it
disengaging when Brad asks if Marl has anything else

@Marluxion

Further questioning may be required when I’m not in bed trying to sleep

ok Marl was going to sleep so that’s fair ig

@Marluxion

Like this
Zorvo voting okazo

Okazo could realistically be a lhf villager and zorvo is trying to start a counterwagon because one of his wolfmates are being wagoned

We don’t really have a way to know or not until flips occur

this honestly doesn’t look great in hindsight - looks like Marl is discrediting Zorvo while painting O.kazo as a LHF villager

@Marluxion

VOTE: Silviu

@Marluxion

Not opposed to O.kazo dying, do think i prefer silviu though

@Marluxion

either, both, or neither could be scum i think

@Marluxion

Ohayo is pretty reactive and very low impact
slots like him i struggle to read effectively

prefers Silviu over O.kazo
reasons are kind of weak (struggle to read O.kazo)
doesn’t go for Brad? was their previous interaction convincing? Marl just kind of drops it in favor of more consensus POE slots
but still puts Silviu over O.kazo

@Marluxion

worlds where neither are a hit, players like min are where i’d look at next

@Marluxion

not a hard scumread though, just no reason to townread him yet

this just came out of nowhere?
what happened to the Brad SR?
it’s also kind of concerning because Marl put min under O.kazo for saying “lmao” before so it’s like building more padding for O.kazo (this part is a bit reachy on my end though)

@Marluxion

i feel like my odds of dying tonight are pretty above average since i’m A) obvious town and B) not really tunneling

so i’m gonna work out another legacy readlist for when i die even if i know it wont be read

@Marluxion

i feel like i’m one of the only obvious town which makes things scary for when i do die
this game is either gonna be really easy (POE contains all wolves) or really rough (POE only has 1 wolf)

as pointed out by Vul’s post, I don’t think Marl believes this
it was also v. abrupt a thought

@Marluxion

yes
okazo is the exact type of player i struggle to read effectively
at best i think he’s a coin flip
idk how to differentiate new busy town to frozen scum

silviu on the other hand, has chosen to push lol who i’m like 90% certain is town now
and it’s in a very non-silviu way as well
so slightly more confident in him not being town

this is fair tbh but doesn’t look great in light of O.kazo flip

@Marluxion

it’s optimal for track every time you’re able imo so
i’m not calling for anything
if i get successfully doc’d, sweet
if i get killed, acceptable
worst outcome is me getting docced and someone else dying

this, along with the “I’m going to be NK’d post” feels like Marl is trying to get a doc
it’s fine in vacuum ig

@Marluxion

That in itself is a reason to suspect min though

@Marluxion

Min is usually blindingly town

this was indeed not a great reason to push min
min’s reaction could be part of the reason they were NK’d

@Marluxion

Damn Vulgard either joined the crew or is a wolf

@Marluxion

Either you are playing really badly or you’re a wolf

@Marluxion

Seth and min I can expect it from, Seth is always wrong and min omguses if you sneeze in his direction but you should know better

these posts I really hate
as soon as Vul starts to SR Marl, Marl starts OMGUSing and giving Vul a false dichotomy to fall into: either accept that they are “playing really badly”/joycatting or accept that they are a wolf
the idea is repeated multiple times
Marl essentially holds Vul in high esteem (as a good player) and guilts them for not finding Marl town instead of actually addressing any of Vul’s concerns

Marl also contrasts their high regard for Vul with their treatment of 2 other players, Zorvo and min, discrediting both

@Marluxion

Okazo is basically a coin flip, a little better than yeeting a zero poster but not by much

again saying O.kazo is a coin flip

@Marluxion

No idea it’s day 1
I think Silviu stands good odds of flipping wolf
Brad should be obvious by EoD2 if not sooner

Potentially min, potentially okazo, potentially you, potentially okazo, potentially KT

I’m more or less being voted by half my PoE + zorvo

someone mentioned this already but O.kazo is mentioned twice
shows how much Marl is thinking of/aware of O.kazo, which could be indicative of Marl/O.kazo being w/w
with the number of times that Marl has said O.kazo was a “coinflip” or “difficult to read” or “null” to them, it’s strange that O.kazo is brought up twice here - real nulls are often forgotten

this would make sense, however, if Marl was partnered with O.kazo and they’ve been trying to downplay their partner as a good exe by calling them a “coinflip” but are also very much aware of O.kazo so when asked for scumreads, to bring up O.kazo not once, but twice

@Marluxion

Eh he hasn’t really done a whole lot
His lemonfairy read is the only thing I have to townlean him for

^wrt to Brad
this doesn’t check out b/c in previous post Brad was 2nd wolf after Silviu and Brad was at the very bottom in Marl’s reads list

fmpov this also reads like TMI of me being town, esp. since when Marl first saw Brad’s TR of me, their comment was that while Marl liked my post, Marl thought it was NAI
no other read was given on me since then so townleaning Brad for townreading me doesn’t make sense to me

@Marluxion

When have I ever miselimmed you min

@Marluxion

Not really buying it
You’ve played too many games with me to even briefly suspect me like that, especially with how transparent and straightforward I’ve been this game. if you’re a wolf you knew zorvo would jump at the opportunity to headhunt me, you basically gave him the greenlight to make this game difficult.

ATE to min and Vul
this looks like Marl is guilt-tripping Vul for “making the game difficult” for Marl?

@Marluxion

Also I didn’t even call you wolf, I just said you haven’t done anything towny yet

Because you really didn’t do ANYTHING until now

backpedaling on min is a meh look

@Marluxion

Ok who’s a wolf? Why Is the burden of proficiency on me instead of you when you are by far the more respected player?

^comment to Vul saying they will sheep Marl today and if it isn’t a wolf, Vul will find one the next day
I also don’t like this
feels like Marl is trying to absolve themselves of blame should Silviu flip town but at the same time is refusing to vote with Vul on O.kazo

@Marluxion

If this slot lives past day 3 we are literally throwing

Pretty good odds of all three of us being town I think

If I’m wrong on one of the three and there is a scum, it’s exactly Magnus

reply to Troll saying wolves are in Magnus/Vul/Marl
contradicts previous scumread of Vul - Marl doesn’t believe their reads

@Marluxion

Seth literally how do you even come to your conclusions

This is so unbelievably out there that it doesn’t even remotely track in my point of view

It’s like you’re playing geoguessr and you see a strand of grass and go “yes we are definitely in Jamaica, this is Jamaican grass” when in actuality you’re in Saudi Arabia

Marl is not trying to see whether this is from town!Zorvo or scum!Zorvo but just keeps saying Zorvo is wrong

@Marluxion

I am very lucky I noticed that I hit 149.

I almost capped myself off without even realizing it.

I’m going to give my thoughts on every single player more or less in case I either die at night (now looking much less likely thanks Vul) or if I end up dying at EoD.

I will not be here to change my vote in the hour before EoD. If for some reason I’m still awake I want you to kill me because that means I was so obsessed over this game that I stayed up 5 extra hours

the part on dying at night is, again, not great imo

@Marluxion

Vulgard is town. His entitlement and the entire way he is going about handling me since suspecting me and his entire treatment of Magnus makes him literally always a villager here. I’m just going to bet the game on this here and now. If you kill Vulgard after I’m dead I will probably post a gif of gintoki pointing and laughing at you when the game ends or you get to dvc.

Zorvo is unfortunately probably also town. He is doing literally one for one the exact same shit he was doing in kaguya. It’s nothing like Valorant FM. He’s just town.

Magnus I THINK is town but it’s probably not a good reason and if you decide to kill him that’s a respectable play. He’s been mostly echoing other thoughts since his initial vulgard push and I haven’t really been that impressed since. The initial push on vulgard is very bold imo but it could just be refuge in audacity here.

Molly has quite a bit more substance than they did in kaguya but I also townread them super easily there. I have liked her posts so far though especially wrt Silviu.

KingTroll I think might literally just be Seth² and is readable much along the same ways. Him bluntly saying the “oh do you really dislike Seth that much so you want call me out on having the same reason” thing he just did felt a bit brazen to come from scum.

May I liked early and I can’t for the life of me even remember why.

Eliza the same. She vibed well while in thread but having seen her wolf that’s probably not good enough.

Brads response to lemonfairys catch-up was decent and SOMETHING to townread him for, irrelevant of Lemons actual alignment. Other than that he hasn’t done much of anything. Force him to find scum and if he doesn’t thunderdome a wolf by eod4 he should probably die.

Min I think a lot of people are going to townread but I’m not thinking I will. His response to me was emotional - but it was emotional towards me not having something he seemed factual information right, not a response to me thinking he was a wolf.

Lol has vibed well in thread and feels very similar to kaguya. If he’s pushing agenda it’s probably only partnered with Brad. I don’t get his Brad townread and usually lols reads all check out in my brain.

Okazo literally doesn’t exist and has more posts about him than he even has in the thread. If he isnt a JOAT, he should be dead by eod3 at the latest if this keeps up. I do think he’s a coin flip though, but it might be one we have to take.

YBW is probably scum. I haven’t seen a good reason for her gigantic attitude shift and her reads especially wrt vulgard stink. Her saying she “wants to prove she’s funny” doesn’t really add up. No jokes since then Lil clown friend.

Silviu I think should die for similar reasons to okazo but also some of his posts just stink. His Eliza stuff stands out like a sore thumb and idc if it’s antispew or if he’s trying to get her mld or what. He’s… Probably just a little more likely than a coin flip to be scum. I’m not 100% confident.

Lemonfairys catch-up post felt a little stiff but also straight to the point. Relatively easy to fake though. Would probably drop her into my PoE at this point if she wasn’t there already. I wouldn’t vote here today though probably.

(List relatively ordered from towniest to scummiest but also some outliers like lol and lemonfairy I just didn’t remember until I got to them. Both should be higher than they are.)

anyway, I hate this entire reads list
this is exactly the kind of reads list I would make as a wolf
it’s so full of non-info and there’s also a lot of non-reads (Troll, May, Eliza, Brad, min, lol, O.kazo, Silviu, me)
only TR on Vul, Zorvo town, Magnus hedgy town, molly town for meta (not great reasoning and has scum potential tbh)

@Marluxion

neither silv nor okazo self pressed onto the other

pretty sure killing silviu is always correct here

this is kinda ew

@Marluxion

yup pretty much
molly is now also always town
the two people i want dead the most are still ybw and silviu

lemon and brad both should die if silviu is town

w/w potential with molly even though it was Vul that brought it up first

TMI Silviu being town
the pivot on me and Brad is not great

@Marluxion

Vul vote is really fucking weird here
I know i’m town, why try to soft defend me instead of just voting me?
If you need a villager to vote i’m right there, and possibly silviu as well would have lead to silviu being the lead wagon

i dont get this vote at all unless vul is a partner and is trying to distance, but i dont think that’s the case

fmpov this looks like Marl is trying to play off O.kazo spew
O.kazo was soft-defending Marl weirdly saying reaching postcap was towny :joycat:

@Marluxion

Silviu and Vul both relatively spewed v but
If both are v why is he voting Vul and not me
It doesn’t make sense

Marl brings up a good point and tries to act confused about it
I think they’re really focused on how O.kazo made them appear EOD and they’re trying to make it look like it’s part of their solving

@Marluxion

“Marl is no longer town because villager who is traditionaly not very good at reading people had them as a wolf”

Ok Bradley

Completely ignoring that I obviously did not have TMI on mins alignment from my read list and I wouldn’t kill someone I was trying to PoE as a wolf

Min was probably killed because their reads sucked and it can be used to push agenda, not because the wolves knew he was a PR

ugh
yeah, this is just bad
discrediting min, who’s a dead JOAT
self-meta is also ew, esp. with how Marl quoted their final read on min - like they already planned this excuse

I think I will end Marl’s ISO here
pretty sure I’ve made my point
if this isn’t a wolf, idk what is

molly ISO

@mollylikesorigami

VOTE: Silviu200530

gn

first vote on Silviu

@mollylikesorigami

it was for these two, they both came off as varying amounts of wolfily empty

the first was like, lol, you’re saying water is wet. looking around the room, i don’t think anyone here actually needed you to tell them that? just looks like standard fake helpfulness.

the second one was the bigger reason. you talked a long, long time about zorvo and eliza, but none of it was alignment related, and the worse part is that the advice you gave each of them had the attitude of assuming they were town. like, you’re telling zorvo how to be more threatening to wolves, and you’re telling eliza how not to get ml’ed, even though you haven’t expressed a townread (or read at all) on either. the troll read goes similarly nowhere, but it isn’t the same kind of borderline tmiey.

i’m looking through some of your later posts, and they’re better in the sense that there are actual game thoughts, but i’m not getting the sene that you actually… care? about the greater mystery, like you only started solving once you sat yourself down and made yourself, and even then it feels like the reads are a bit checklisty/obligatory, like how you brought up a bunch of people and events you had nothing to say about in your readlist. (i think the points in this paragraph are relatively weak and am not putting a lot of weight in them.)

idk none of these things are damning to me on their own, but for the stretch of time until your list it feels like you’re taking in and processing a lot of good, useful information, and it’s just inspiring… nothing in you. reading through that would get most villagers thinking, just by virtue of not knowing. they wouldn’t need to “turn on” their solving mode or anything, because it’s… not a mode.

case on Silviu
there is a lot that is just info that I think isn’t needed (about Zorvo and Eliza)
very wordy

I initially had similar thoughts on Silviu so I actually liked this post at the time
looking back… it’s ok ig
this is the kind of case I could see from a wolf though

@mollylikesorigami

i think the may tr is being a little oversold, but they are pretty consistently villagery, and a few of the strongest trs on them seem unaligned from them, so i’m not worried wolves are like, taking advantage of the read or anything.

this is fair

@mollylikesorigami

tbh my head just gets fuzzy when i try to formulate a kt read. he seems comfortable on tone, and he had that may omgus that came off as performative but not necessarily in a wolfy way, which is my least favorite kind of post to read into. do you have specific reasons to like kt? it might help me out.

friendly and vague
post is still ok

@mollylikesorigami

sorry but i think marl’s one of the most obvious villagers in the thread lol

i think in particular look at how his reads on you/brad developed, with how he townread you for getting what he thought was the easy dunk on brad. it really feels like he believes his brad read, and like it’s so obvious to him that of course someone else had to point it out and have the same thought. just a sense of camaraderie/validation i very, very rarely see from wolves.

putting Marl as obv. villa
could be w/w imo but I’m kind of getting ahead of myself here

@mollylikesorigami

i’m not voting vul today lmao i think he’s been very villagery, especially around when he started cooling off of his marl wolf read

i could go for kazo. his popins feel like he’s just sitting in thread treading water, and i see him saying words but don’t feel him thinking if that makes sense, like he doesn’t have any plans to start solving.

i think brad’s worst crime is just being underwhelming, don’t have the same meta as y’all so i don’t know what his polarization looks like sorry.

villa Vul is dependent on Vul TRing Marl
focus is on same people as Marl

@mollylikesorigami

marl
may
min
vul
zorvo

kt
lemon
lol
magnus
ybw

eliza

brad
okazo
silviu

i think this is about where i’m at

the tiers aren’t ordered just alphabetical

consider eliza the null line

reads

@mollylikesorigami

i might be getting ahead of myself on min if anyone in that top tier

i dunno i think he’s just felt casual and loose all game and pivoting into the marl tunnel like that felt really villagery

focus on min - add a little hedge

@mollylikesorigami

tbh i don’t know if i’m sticking to silviu at all? like voting okazo looks tempting, and i prob vote any of the current non-marl wagons to save marl.

if i did, and silviu died and flipped w, i might actually go for brad because him popping in with a shakily reasoned silviu vote and dipping, all right after i started really digging into silviu, is pretty bussy in a vacuum, while okazo getting wagonned next to silviu and not trying to shield or bus them is probably mildly >rand v if silviu’s a wolf. i probably wouldn’t kill him for that alone, just press him on it for a while and maybe pivot if i like what he does.

if v… i dunno, i usually don’t see v flips as particularly telling. i’d start with the same brad/okazo poe most likely, unless there was a super weird nk that suggested wolves are deep.

i don’t think any of this is actually super likely how i’d come into d2, though, there’s a lot that can happen between now and then and it’s really hard to predict how that changes my reads.

the first part looks so partnered with Marl it should look unpartnered but I think it was made that way on purpose (if not, then lol me)
it’s like openly justifying defending Marl and it makes sense since Marl is their top TR (but why is Marl getting TR’s so hard? iirc, it was for “towny commaderie” (which I saw as pocketing Vulgard)

the rest is fine

@mollylikesorigami

maybe some wolves are just more badass than i am but i don’t think most wolves would immediately come in and shield may as boldly as marl and ybw if may’s a wolf? and then a lot of people accept the read but without much passion, which, if they’re wolves, seems more like conceding to the read than propping it up.

it’s not a super strong read of course, it’s working off of a lot of generalizations of how people tr’d may that might not be as accurate as i remember. such are threadstate reads.

when did Marl shield May?
molly has TMI on May being town?

@mollylikesorigami

VOTE: O.kazo

votes O.kazo at this point
4 on O.kazo and 3 on Silviu (molly being one of the 3) before this
now 5 on O.kazo and 2 on Silviu

@mollylikesorigami

if i’m reading this correctly, kazo is voting vul for… avoiding capping

which is just a really silly thing to focus on in general but especially at eod, as his main push

and like, okay, sure, he’s the only one who’s close but not over, but… half the game was talking about not wanting to cap earlier? and people started the whole post counting gimmick to avoid capping too soon. so like, vul’s name still more or less came out of a hat here lol

it feels like a push for the sake of having a push that he doesn’t believe ¯_(ツ)_/¯

for silviu it’s mostly what i’ve already said about them, their response to me didn’t actually affect my points much and their later posting really didn’t move me either way

focus on O.kazo voting Vul for avoiding cap
I think it’s trying to take attention away from the fact O.kazo spewed Marl by soft-defending Marl for reaching the cap
O.kazo would go down sooner or later so I can see this from scum to bus O.kazo at this point to take attention away from scumpartner while solidifying themselves as town for making the exe a reality

@mollylikesorigami

i thought they were saying that vul was a wolf because the opposite of their marl read applied to vul?

“i think wolves stay under cap”

“and if I follow this thought process, it leads back to vulgard.”

again, I think it’s diverting attention away from Marl to Vul

@mollylikesorigami

i’m a bit tired for explaining more than just repeating myself, but i still don’t think it’s marl

imo molly’s reasoning for TRing Marl is weak compared to defense of Marl

@mollylikesorigami

since kazo helped start the vul wagon, if kazo flips red, i think at least one wolf helped start the vul wagon

serious answer is uhhhhhh idrk lol. don’t think kazo/vul is w/w right now, i think (without actually looking back to see how they ended up on kazo) that any of magnus, lol and eliza could hypothetically bussing, but i have no real reason to think any of them are, so looking into that seems super speculative. with his thread position i think wolfmates would probably want to at least shade kazo though.

the kazo wagon hasn’t really been dominant all day or anything, i don’t think wolves would have necessarily rushed to prop up a counterwagon.

^response to Troll’s question if there’s a wolf on O.kazo and if counterwagon has wolves if O.kazo flips red
molly doesn’t give a very clear answer

imo there’s likely wolves on both wagons (molly and Marl) - this was unnecessary b/c y’all knew what I thought

@mollylikesorigami

i would caution against the “weird eod votes” pushes for now

it’s a really obviously bad-looking thing, but not so long ago i watched a villager snipe vote another villager at eod to save a wolf, and they were poe’d for it forever even though i thought they were obvious town

people start acting irrationally under time pressure as either alignment, and it generally looks more wolfy than not

granted lemon’s posts today are pretty heavily uninspiring, and my gut townread for purity on her can only be stretched so far, just, be careful with condemning someone just for acting out

this is admittedly a nice post
saying it TMIs me as town is probably too much of a reach

@mollylikesorigami

i haven’t really been convinced by the marl pushes

i’ve still found him towny and my snap thought post-flip was that kazo’s marl read seemed like tmi

everyone and their mother finding a different reason to wolf read marl is a little trippy for me, and it would normally make me feel like i’m missing something obvious that everyone else is seeing, but like

just by scrolling to random sections of his iso i keep townreading him? like the way he goes hard at vul, then hard pivots to shielding him when vul’s still contentious, comes off as villagery lack of agenda, the way his initial wolf read on zorvo corroded felt natural and like he really wanted zorvo to still be a wolf but it just didn’t work out, and there’s just a general vibe that he’s looking under every rock to form and triple check all his reads at all times

ugh
the comment on Marl is actually fine too
still can’t agree on the TR

I’ll end molly’s ISO here
basically, it’s not that I scumread molly individually, but more that I can see a Marl/molly/O.kazo team
everyone else I either have solid TRs on and/or are not associated with Marl or O.kazo imo
molly just happened to be that single slot left over, which was why when I recalled that there’s precisely 3 scum, that I got excited

individually, molly would be like a low townlean for me

O.kazo ISO

@O.kazo

What did Marl do?

@O.kazo

If it’s because he reached his postcap, I think scum would watch out more how many post they left with, and try to not reach theirs too early, to react quickly, if needed, (I don’t know if Marl’s last posts fell in this category or not.) while still want to write some posts, so they could avoid the position I’m stuck with at this moment.

think this is spewing Marl as scum

@O.kazo

And if I follow this thought process, it leads back to Vulgard. (Again.)

My feeling tell it is scum, my analysis tell it is scum, so it is probably scum…

VOTE: Vulgard

the pivot to Vulgard is v. weird

O.kazo never mentioned/interacted with molly

[Lemonfairy]

was going to add a VCA but wanted to post this earlier so people might actually read it

[Lemonfairy]

ElizaThePsycho (3): YoubutWorse, Vulgard, Marluxion
Marluxion (2): ElizaThePsycho, Lemonfairy
illwei (2): Magnus, lol
Zorvo (1): May
Lemonfairy (1): mollylikesorigami
lol (1): Zorvo
Unvote (1): BradLand

Not Voting (2): illwei, KingTroll

this is ew
get back on Marl

[BradLand]

VOTE: Marluxion

Only because you told me to…

[Lemonfairy]

I will probably cry if I’m wrong

[Lemonfairy]

not actually
but I will feel like a clown

[Lemonfairy]

going to try and towncase Eliza now

[mollylikesorigami]

ElizaThePsycho (3): YoubutWorse, Vulgard, Marluxion
Marluxion (3): ElizaThePsycho, Lemonfairy, BradLand
illwei (2): Magnus, lol
Zorvo (1): May
Lemonfairy (1): mollylikesorigami
lol (1): Zorvo

Not Voting (2): illwei, KingTroll

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tf

no time to read only to iso

[Lemonfairy]

@Vulgard because you were waiting on this

[mollylikesorigami]

@ElizaThePsycho

(at this point my reasons for thinking marl wolf have fallen apart and im really only doing it because i don’t know who else outside of like
idk
magnus?)

this post catches my eye as villagery

[KingTroll]

VOTE: Marl

finally a good reason to feel confident in a marl vote

[mollylikesorigami]

okay eliza was relatively quick to iso

???

her posts seem fine at worst, and there are moments of towniness coming through for me

today’s wagons are sending me for a spin lol

[Host_Account_1]

hi apologies for the ping but apparently the vote thing is actually case sensitive and thats dumb ok bye

Massping

@BradLand
@ElizaThePsycho
@KingTroll
@Lemonfairy
@lol
@Magnus
@Marluxion
@May
@mollylikesorigami
@Illwei
@Vulgard
@YoubutWorse
@Zorvo

[KingTroll]

if marl flips red I will reconsider my original marl/molly scumread. however if marl flips green I’ll be locktowning Molly for the rest of the game

[YoubutWorse]

called it