I sorted him from null to slight townlean for questionable reasons and that’s where I left off
This is a vote.
It’s a vote with no reasoning - not at first. The reasoning is given later.
Eliza quotes a post where Achromatic wolfcased Marl. Apparently, that’s the post that made her wolfread Achromatic.
However, take a look at her reasoning.
- She freely admits to having no context on the first two points Achromatic made.
- In regards to the third point, she only says that Marl is being himself. She even backtracks immediately afterward, saying that she may have missed something.
So, in essence, Eliza has no reason to call Achromatic a wolf for this post. She essentially admits as much by claiming she has no context for his claims. Yet, she still voted him and said she had a wolfread on him. Even though her reasoning obviously doesn’t hold up, and she undermined it a few times.
She then levels herself into still believing the read, and keeps her vote on Achromatic. Now, her claim is that Achromatic provided no evidence for his wolfread on Marl.
I think this always comes from a villager. I’m fully convinced a wolf would make something up right away to justify their vote. What Eliza does instead is level herself out of her original reasoning, only to go with new reasoning. This stubborn insistence is towny. The fact she maintains the wolfread despite realizing her reasoning was bad is towny. Wolves wouldn’t have this stubbornness, because the read was fake to begin with. If wolf!Eliza noticed the fact her read was poorly constructed, she would throw it away, I think. Or she would have made up stronger reasoning in the first place.
It’s a genuine thought process, it’s a towny thought process, and it’s towny behavior, I believe.
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Why would it be “too sudden” it was a pressure vote so I could give the explanation later.
Pretty simple and straight forward.
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i didnt even read it zone
i said that
Possibly. I also have no way of knowing that without playing with them more.
Forum keeps crashing on me and I’m probably gonna crash in bed when I get home as its nearing 4 am
But around for a few more minutes
Ok the fact you kept your evaluation on Eliza and made this makes me wanna rethink my read on you.
anyway
i know how y’all are going to take this so uh
im not saying anything
seya
You can argue that wolf!Eliza fumbled her wolfread. However, the post where she justified it required effort. You’d think she’d make up a good reason if she went to the trouble of quoting Achromatic three times. She didn’t, she changed her mind about her reasoning, but refused to change her mind on the read. That’s very towny IMO and I’m confident enough that I’ll be shielding her for the entire game.
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Oh sorry i didnt answer.
If i have trouble reading a player independently i would usually just wait for flips or mechs. I dont usually have a hard time reading people once i know how they play though but there have been a few
Good night.
I like this analysis
It’s easy for wolf team to let Eliza die as LHF town
I dunno if this makes Vulgard town but I do think it reads as a genuine opinion
Oh yeah, I also saw people talk up my wolfgame. Yes, my wolfrange is extremely broad, but if I randed W, I also would’ve been a bit more laid-back, as I am here. Or as I think I am here.
I don’t think this is necessarily helpful, but I do think it needs to be said.
I feel like it wasnt exactly a brave town read of eliza though given previous discussion about her. Its not wrong but also i dont know who was itching to lynch eliza
Because I forgot the context where Windward/Illwei voted you for pressure.
By the way, I want to skip posts a lil’ bit. Do one of you happen to have the link to Zorvo’s explanation?
Yes. You did not read it back then.
Which is why I am asking you now (or rather, I asked you at P#2426) to read it.
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Well, some people thought my townread on Eliza was unfounded, so I went and checked her ISO again. I honestly thought I’d change my mind upon seeing it, but nope, I instead found this and I’m only more confident now.
Fair
I get that impression too honestly, even if it does seem like a weird reason to townread someone.
Quick show of hands of people in thread who thinks marl is town or townleaning atm
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im telling you its a waste of my time
thats why im not
im already mildly upset about this game and i don’t want to make it worse by doing random things that waste my time
if you really want me to read it i will but i really do not want to