Hazbin Hotel Purgatory - Sinners Can Be Redeemed!

Gg altho I do apologise to my mafia buddies I didnt play well.

In theory my thinking was “oh damn we get no kills we should try get known active players out to hell or heaven asap” so I defended Eliza to stay, suggested Garfooled to go heaven to leave, pushed Leafia to hell to leave.

In practise i had no reasons for any of my reads and it was blatantly obvious i was making shit up apparently. Had fun tho.

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bad opinion

good opinions!

this sounds like a post i would make of you in drabble duel

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you literally just agreed with it what was the point of all that waffle

after i wrote it i had the same thought lmao

the last line didnt need to exist but if i dont waffle then am i even katze?

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jesus lmao i would never in a million years have seen bystander wolf this game

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@Garfooled @whatdafucc you both did great posting your way out of pressure btw, sorry about the mini tunnel etc

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but pushing people is how i find them as town

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not like most vanilla mafia wiki ones

but in practice nightless is hellaciously townsided and it’s not hard to see why - the factional kill is one of the most powerful mechanics in mafia and removing it townsides things irrevocably, so a lotof nightless variants reintroduce some form of vengekill to try to balance things out

if this were a regular nightless game rather than purgatory there would be a nonzero chance bystander wins it tbqh, i don’t know if i was getting there anytime soon even if other players were towntelling a lot. was always drawing dead here after day 1 though because user someone always dies before endgame

fwiw i would not be too hard on yourself - i was going to kill tutuu regardless of any associations betwween you two lol. and i was paranoid of bystander during heaven 1 but the thought went well out of my mind after that.

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according to the mafiascum wiki it’s happened once in 6 tries. it hasn’t been updated since 2021 so i’m not sure if it’s run since then but the overall pool of results is extremely townsided

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wolfing in purgatory seems about as fun as wolfing in popcorn which was kind of just miserable last time i did it

and that game had extra kills added for wolves

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Yah. I think Combinatorics has some of the same problems which I have thought about how to fix… to less of a degree of misery than Purgatory because you have your own mason-hunting minigame, but still a lack of agency versus strong viagers. Much to think about

oh yeah uh regarding the hosting i feel like the even number of angels thing should have been accounted for before game start. that’s the kind of thing that really needs to be looked at and anticipated

people posting about the rolecards was not ideal but also did not necessarily influence reads later in the game. i know there were examples posted in the OP but it’s hard to necessarily stop people from posting about that stuff since it’s such an immediate reaction. imo best was i to just…not get fancy and use standard role colors lol

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This is the most important thing I think.

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Nope. Katze always waffles.