Hell Echoes FM - TOWN VICTORY

[Olivest]

Lets start my achromatic discussion somewhere a little unorthodox, with Hazardwaste.

@Hazardwaste

Yeah i can see your sus on Olivest, They seem to have talked alot but not given anything helpful. like they are keeping an eye on any sus on them to make sure they are safe rather then trying to get an evil out.

For someone who notices I’ve talked alot doesnt seem to notice how I explain this which is important because not only did I explain, THIS IS THE EXACT SAME SITUATION AS D1 LAST GAME
When I’m busy, and I’m getting pushed, I tend to focus on one thing and its self preservation
Sometimes, even when I am here, there isn’t much that catches my attention and I just go through posts to put out any fires that could kill me. It is the default thing to do in any early game situation. Sometimes, such as in morbtainado, I stay inactive in later days and show up mainly to defend myself. I bring up morbtainado as it is a game where I was coasting early on and when I shown up achromatic was the one to point out this behaviour.

Lets now go over achro’s progression on me.
there is none.

@Achromatic

Actually i just dont like this post

VOTE: olivest

he makes this post and lockscums me with absolutely nothing that isn’t negative towards me after
I’m not convinced achro is scum, I am however convinced this continued push on me the entirety of d1 is not for any good reason
Early on whenever I make any points about it he jolts back to acting like its just rvs or hes just kidding to immediately go back to being flamey with the safety net of… saying tbh alot which makes it a joke? He’s 100% just trying to get reactions out of me there but that’s not important on its own. He’s clearly very confident in these early posts.

@Achromatic

Anyway i am phone posting but the psychology of jaiden surrounding my slot and zorvo is very backwards.

I just end game’d a win as mafia in a game that ended less than 48 hours ago which is the third time in a row i have beaten town jaiden as scum by end gaming but she is talking about zorvo beong a person of interest who is dangerous and suddenly vibing with me as someone who seems OK?

Doesnt really feel consistent with her game experience considering zorvo got yeeted day 1 of the same game.

I would expect a lot more discomfort from town jaiden here. I have experienced that discomfort from town jaiden in fact.

This hands off approach aint it tbh.

This is about the turning point for that.
As I already have explained in #533, this is either pure ego (or, someone who doesnt know how to scumread me)

@Achromatic

Hmm.

Interesting. Is jaiden the type of scum who tries to mitigate arguments against her by inserting emotion where there is none? For example, i am not mad at all. Also says i am playing to my ego rather than reason.

Your reply is noted.

Interestingly, he never actually denies that it’s a pure ego read and never actually tries to disprove my counter. I don’t think he knew how to respond to me and just acts like I had no reasoning when I clearly did when I compared zorvo’s amount of wins against me compared to his
I find this post incredibly strange as he both refuses to back down and acknowledge my counter argument
this will be continued shortly
PART 1 – CONCLUDED

[Frostwolf103]

Anyway where was I, oh yeah the PC.

[Neon]

The annoying thing for me here is that with 5 players not voting is excessively hard for me to place a vote since normally I vote based on what the wagons look like before I disappear for the Night.

[Neon]

VOTE: Olivest

I town read this wagon the most so I’m gonna settle here for the day I think.

[Olivest]

@Achromatic

I think May is a good, active player with insightful angles usually.

She just hasn’t done anything much today, which isn’t so much a “push her 100%” but moreso ‘well that’s certainly not what I would expect for town may to do’

fun fact: this is the last time achro gives any reason to scumread my slot
and it is a… bad one!!!
may is busy. busy busy may. “Why did he sign up?” just to be my hydra partner. I feel like this is pretty self explanatory

And guess what? This is the last of two reads achro made on my slot
He quietly stood by the first one (me having known prep for zorvo that i have used in other games as town instead of having prep for him)
before pivoting to this (half of the hydra being busy) for a couple posts and calling it a day
most other mentions of me from achro are him repeatedly repeatedly asking people for reads on me.
There is NO scumread on me from the achro side. He just wants to get rid of me.

Why would he want to get rid of me? As scum his reason would probably be that I’ve correctly scumread him twice. As town, maybe he just felt like it. Maybe its just an emotional read? There are very few reasons to explain achro’s read on me since its very clearly baseless

[Olivest]

no the fuck you arent

[Olivest]

we aren’t having another pokemon xros
or on the jaiden specific side, another strategem
both these times absolute garbage reasons where given to read me and then people just, left! without ever actually reading a post of mine! sometimes people just voted me because i was an option! and im not having that
play the game and do something yourself

[Neon]

@Olivest

no the fuck you arent

Don’t worry you can just start a flash wagon on me while I’m sleeping.

But I don’t town read you and your wagon is the only one that looks even halfway decent.

[Neon]

I did play the game. Sorry. Byeeeee.

[Olivest]

holy shit take a break from mafia if being killed for lying makes you so pressed youre gonna vote the player for it the next game

[Neon]

That’s not why I’m voting you. Quit crying about it and convince people it’s not you I’m one vote.

And last game should show you that even if I put a vote on a maj wagon it can be non existent by EoD. You got a lot of time to convince people.

I just won’t be here. Your wagon is the best choice right now.

[Olivest]

@Neon

I did play the game. Sorry. Byeeeee.

this is posted by someone very happy that I’m not happy
you don’t care if I’m town or scum at all

[Neon]

@Olivest

this is posted by someone very happy that I’m not happy
you don’t care if I’m town or scum at all

Hardly true. Again I do not town read you. And your wagon is the only one that doesn’t suck.

That’s the truth.

[Olivest]

didnt even read my posts directly above about why the wagon makes no sense

[Neon]

Nothing you’ve done has changed that. It could but unfortunately I can not be here at EoD. I need to make MY decision now.

[Olivest]

yeah that tends to happen when you don’t read a single thing I write

[Neon]

@Olivest

didnt even read my posts directly above about why the wagon makes no sense

Also not true. I did read them. Although the level of comprehension I achieved while reading them may not be perfect cause wall posts + brain disorder = sometimes I can’t fucking read things even when I try my hardest.

[Neon]

@Olivest

yeah that tends to happen when you don’t read a single thing I write

Still not true but you really are overreacting to a singular vote that ultimately could mean nothing and that frankly makes me feel more justified in leaving it here.

[Olivest]

well you read them
and never commented on them
even with your vote
that youre leaving to be your last vote
thats a fun thing to explain d2 huh

[Neon]

@Olivest

well you read them
and never commented on them
even with your vote
that youre leaving to be your last vote
thats a fun thing to explain d2 huh

I don’t need to comment on every post I read.

I comment when I feel my comment is necessary and will add something. I did not feel that after reading your post. Doesn’t mean I didn’t read it. I read the first 300 posts this game and hardly felt compelled to reply to anything.