Hell Echoes FM - TOWN VICTORY

[Achromatic]

Iso Olivest for me and tell me what you like about it?

[Atlas]

@Achromatic

Feels like italy is being overly scrutinized compared to some.

frost came in and voted them with two posts
jarek placed a vote on them about one post
and hazard voted on them with a sentence explaining it
all lower-posters who are decently opinionated most games

olv being at zero votes means

1. scum hates voting middle-higher posters, despite lack of substance/pushing
2. they’re probably evil

[Atlas]

italy has just been kinda like Jarek for me
in that
he’s there

but jarek’s better socially wise
i don’t know why they decided on italy over kii though

[Jarek]

@Olivest

theoretically the best way to handle zorvo is make up your mind up d1 and either kill him or towncore him right there
he just has this innate ability to never get exec’d past d1
i think the existence of atlas nullifies this though

I think this is NAI but irrespective of that I have a deep seated disagreement with eliminating anyone just for being themselves. If it ever came to that for me, I’d quit.

@Olivest

so youre voting me for… bad advice?
it is bad advice but you arent killing zorvo past d2 tops

It’s bad advice but I’ve seen opinions like these elsewhere. I don’t think it alone is NAI because this sentiment has been expressed on other games, with both these players and others.

@Olivest

what I’ve learnt from this sod is that if i dont immediately push achro in a game he will push me

@Olivest

oh my god is this the first fol player to defend themselves by saying “this is just how i am”??? ive never ever seen this before

Made me laugh.

@Olivest

achro getting mad that i was more immediately consumed by zorvo than him is hilarious
this isnt even a read its just ego

like even if you think its actually valid youve won 2 scumgames against me in which i scumread you 2 times
i have seen zorvo and given him the benefit of the doubt like. 20 times
my best town games have been taken away by the eternal zorvo
i have more reason to have him living in my head rent free than to have you

i did have discomfort, but mostly in the way you jolted me back and forth between casual and serious. i am not going to be in discomfort from an instant rvs read

The wording on how they feel might be offputting, but if someone were pushing me and I know I’m town, I’d be on their ass for being stupid. I wouldn’t call it discomfort I’d just be calling them evil. Idk.

Tarkov raid just started so that’s where I’m leaving off

[Atlas]

@Jarek

but if someone were pushing me and I know I’m town, I’d be on their ass for being stupid

i don’t think jarek actually believes this

not that he wouldn’t push people for pushing him; that he would push them for being stupid

this game, especially, if someone had pushed you, wouldnt be stupid

[Jarek]

No more specifically if they’re like “here’s a scum case on you and why you’re evil” I would know, for a fact, they are wrong, because I’m not evil

so while they wouldn’t be stupid that’s a rude assumption to make, they’re wrong. For a reason.

[Jarek]

I am never agreeing with someone and going “yeah lol I am evil wow good job” either because I’m not and they’re patently wrong or I’d be gamethrowing, in either case, I’m not lying down and taking it and they’re getting pushed back for it, until they can explain themselves or back off

[Jarek]

I can’t assume others play the same way, unfortunately.

[Atlas]

im aware im nitpicking you saying “stupid” rather then “misguided” or whatever but

i don’t really think you would ever thing they’re stupid, just bad at the game, or, in most things, just have no idea how to read you

[Jarek]

@Atlas

i don’t really think you would ever thing they’re stupid,

Absolutely not because that’s not cool, I’d probably just call them bad yeah.

[Jarek]

If even that, until I flip them I don’t know shit

[Frostwolf103]

@Atlas

@Achromatic

Feels like italy is being overly scrutinized compared to some.

frost came in and voted them with two posts
jarek placed a vote on them about one post
and hazard voted on them with a sentence explaining it
all lower-posters who are decently opinionated most games

olv being at zero votes means

1. scum hates voting middle-higher posters, despite lack of substance/pushing
2. they’re probably evil

The heck is this lol, post this and post that without providing the context of said post

[Achromatic]

Thoughts on Olivest?

[Atlas]

@Frostwolf103

On contrary, Italy. Garfooled make decent point about Achromatic being LAMIST. When you quote the message that way with only half visible, I had to open the full message to understand the point what Garfooled is making, which went over the head.

referring to gar, not italy

@Frostwolf103

Italy doesn’t like Garfooled about Achromatic in this post mostly because of speculative, Italy did not mention in the same post he quoted that Garfooled sees Achromatic a little too LAMIST for their own good which I find this quite odd that Italy only focused on that part alone?

@Frostwolf103

Either way I think Italy is shading Garfooled a bit.

VOTE: Italy

your posts about italy

this is what i meant by there not being much; you’re only referring to one or two of his posts, which were just kinda eh

[Atlas]

@Frostwolf103

Italy did not mention in the same post he quoted that Garfooled sees Achromatic a little too LAMIST for their own good which I find this quite odd that Italy only focused on that part alone?

with this being your main point
could italy have done it as wolf
sure
is it no more then a coinflip, really
yeah

[Host_Account_4]

Votecount as of post #1335

Sylveon (3): Neon, Achromatic, Zorvo
Italy (3): Jarek, Hazardwaste, Frostwolf103
Zorvo (1): Sylveon
Frostwolf103 (1): Kiiruma

Not Voting (6): Atlas, Italy, Garfooled, Olivest, JakeTheWolfie, guavagudetama

[Hazardwaste]

@Jarek

So is everyone who points out your flaws going to be read as good despite the fact it could easily be an evil looking for a genuine reason to kill someone?

Thats fair just what i originally thought. am not gonna insta lock them as good aligned. just thought it was a good gesture

[Jarek]

No problem

[Atlas]

i think this post is 1. towny
2. jarek pointed out a kinda meh read on someone and thought it was a solid, firm townread

which is
something

[Atlas]

@Jarek

it could easily be an evil

he says “easily”
which implies that the read hazard had was stronger then something shaky made