Helluva Boss Mafia - Mafia Victory

[Gorta]

I still need to take a look

[Magnus]

It’s not really related to Eliza ensuring Frost went over, I just thought her interactions with Zone around that time would’ve been really weird if paired.

[Magnus]

“Looks like Frost’s going over, I’m going to buss him.”
“I’m going to try and save him.”

And then having Zone carry the nightkill that night.

[Magnus]

And I feel like if the plan was to throw both Frost and Zone under the bus to make Eliza good via interactions, Frost (at least) would’ve been more willing to die than he was.

[Neon]

What if I just did something like

VOTE: Lemonfairy

So anyways I’m in desperate need of getting back to the basics of my gameplay which means I’m in desperate need of not doing just about everything I’ve done for the last month straight.

[Neon]

@Host_Account_5

Town (7): Town, Gorta, Town, ElizaThePsycho, Town, Woof, Woof
Wolf (3): Lemonfairy, Neon, Magnus
Town (2): Town, Zorvo
Town (1): Town

Chances woofs stacked all 3 on a runaway wagon should be like almost zero. I’m going to town clear Eliza and Gorta off this.

Lemon Magnus Neon Zorvo.

I think if I’m a part of this wolf team I stack the 3rd vote on Frost so clearing Zorvo.

Lemon Magnus Neon

@Host_Account_5

Woof (4): Town, Neon, Gorta, ElizaThePsycho
Zorvo (3): Woof, Magnus, Woof
Town (1): Town
ElizaThePsycho (1): Zorvo

Not Voting (2): Town, Lemonfairy

Neon Gorta Eliza have potential bus cred

Just realized 2 woofs stacked on Zorvo here glad i went back because this means Zorvo is just IC now.

I don’t think 3 woofs stack on Zorvo ever here so Magnus is clear

Lemon not voting

@Host_Account_5

Town (4): Town, Woof, Town, Lemonfairy
Town (3): Magnus, Neon, Zorvo
Zorvo (1): ElizaThePsycho
Magnus (1): Town

Not Voting (1): Gorta

Woofs shouldn’t need to stack two on Wazza here which is a good luck for Lemon.

Its hard to believe the 2nd wagon is pure with this structure which is a bad look for me.

Gorta not voting

@Host_Account_5

Woof (3): ElizaThePsycho, Zorvo, Neon
Zorvo (2): Gorta, Woof
Magnus (1): Town

Not Voting (2): Magnus, Lemonfairy

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Lemon didn’t vote either day that a woof was killed

Sussy amogus

[Neon]

@Lemonfairy

?? lol what
ok ig they can be scum together too

@Lissi

who and who?

@Lemonfairy

Chihiro and Zone

@Lissi

wait why those two? I don’t get it

imo ashlyn’s vote & subsequent responses to magnus looked weirder than whatever convo those two were having (tho looking back tsumugi’s first vote on Zone was kinda ?? too)

also tsumugi and Zone were having this miscommunication (?) about what his votes were for/whether he still meant them and idk why that would happen if they were w/w, it just comes off so weird

@Lemonfairy

Lissi ez town

Okay I hate this. Lemon makes a weird pairing. Lissi calls it out and lemons response is to just call Lissi Town and not explain any further

@Zone_Q11

No. Now tell me: Why did you unvote Magnus before you went to sleep?
Why did you not just leave your vote as is?

Reading back its actually crazy how much Zone and Frost went in on each other D1.

@Ashlyn

VOTE: Eliza

Eliza… actually getting off of her target after having her vote being pointed out is genuinely scary.

Hmmm…

I noticed that Zone is treating Eliza in a similar way to Frost here D1 and Ashlyn is wary of Eliza here to.

@Zone_Q11

Ashlyn is being opportunistic, and Eliza wants a quickhammer. I propose we focus on these two for the remainder of D1.

I do wonder if Zone would be so bold to put two townies here. Reading back is making me ever more wary of Eliza.

@Ashlyn

What’s the point of this paragraph?

@Lemonfairy

it’s like a “don’t blame me if I’m wrong lol”

@Ashlyn

Hmm…
So are you trying to drive a Chihiro wagon or not?

@Lemonfairy

not for the moment

@Ashlyn

In that case, are you trying to not start a case on anyone? Because now it’s starting to look like you were just posting a lot of empty words.

@Lemonfairy

can’t a lemon solve without pushing people?
sheesh

@Ashlyn

If you’ve only got one scumlean and you don’t want to push them it doesn’t sound like you’re doing much solving.

This keeps going and I think it all looks really bad for Lemon…

@Lemonfairy

yes, I am a wild lemon
organically grown

@Frostwolf103

What does this means though? Plenty of activity on Day 1 that’s for certain. Lots of wild goose hunts.

that’s your conclusion?
gib me reads

@Frostwolf103

Diving deeper in my ISO you get some reads.

Also make your own

@Lemonfairy

ugh so you’re one of those people

that’s what I’m doing bruh

@Frostwolf103

That’s fine by me.

This feels fake… and performative

@Zone_Q11

I don’t suspect Magnus in the first place. The guy’s suddenly got a flashwagon at the start of the game? Unless he’s the poorest wolf alive, then he’s more often than not town. (That, and his reaction to the wagon doesn’t smell scummy.)

Rather, the fact you are not seeing him as scummy means that there is less tension / conflict, which is exactly what I don’t want. I want conflicting reads to clash each other, and I figured that claiming is the fastest way to get more people talking. (I mean… you can’t deny it didn’t work.)

Hmmm

Okay I’m stopping here for now. But it is my intent to read the entire game over again.

[Host_Account_5]

Votecount as of post #3379

Lemonfairy (1): Neon

Not Voting (5): ElizaThePsycho, Gorta, Zorvo, Lemonfairy, Magnus

[Zorvo]

@Gorta

right, but one of them wasn’t known to be true at the time

Lissi was not CC’ed.

[Zorvo]

So it was true

[Zorvo]

@Gorta

how is Zorvo town?

I’m sorry, this can die.

VOTE: Gorta

[Zorvo]

LMAO.
Sure Buddy!

It’s not like I directly pinged everyone (including you) for the PR to out themselves, lol.

[Zorvo]

Why are you voting Lemon?
Didn’t we agree earlier they were town?
Like a couple of day phases ago?

[Zorvo]

@Neon

Chances woofs stacked all 3 on a runaway wagon should be like almost zero. I’m going to town clear Eliza and Gorta off this.

No.

Frost and Zone BOTH voted me together.

Trust me, wolves were playing badly and voting together.

[Zorvo]

@Gorta
Weren’t you Gorta?
Zone be leading you.

[Zorvo]

@Gorta

@Zorvo

Jailkeeper + Poor Excuse for a Watcher (Voyager) = 2

do you trust said claims? these people could be bad and are claiming this to make it look like this

@Neon
Like I’m sorry but no one actually thinks this that’s town.

Gorta goes “these people could be bad” when one already flipped Green.

[Zorvo]

@ElizaThePsycho
@Magnus

Please just vote Gorta here, I’m pretty confident it’s him.

If it’s not I’ll do a re-evaluation over night but right now I’m pretty damn confident it’s just Gorta.

[Zorvo]

@Lemonfairy

You as well, vote Gorta.

[Zorvo]

If we don’t not resolve Gorta today, and I’m wrong.
We will lose MYLO, almost for sure.
Automatically giving Mafia the win.

I don’t think it’s Lemon.

[Zorvo]

@Gorta

thing with frost is that there is mostly fluff in that ISO

@Gorta

I’ve made my decision and I can better evaluate you tomorrow

@Gorta

thing is, depending on Frost’s posting today I would be A-ok voting out frost because I still do think that someone who is make tons of wall posts and “analyzing” meme early d1 fluff are doing so to look good and to “prove themselves”

@Gorta

@Frostwolf103

Repeat twice

He still hasn’t made his evaluation

yeah, because I just got back here for now

@Gorta

@Frostwolf103

Hi you’re redchecked by the famous Frostwolf103 how’d you plead?

whatever will I do? I’m so scared (not)

@Gorta

@Frostwolf103

Zorvo however have my attention first when the game started and I am already late to start making the counterargument, lot of IRL stuff to do that time.

why is your vote on me then?

@Frostwolf103

As far I recall, mostly focused on me and nothing else.

that was before I read you if I recall correctly

@Gorta

anyway, I’m here now and I’ll at least give a more conclusive read on Frost

@Gorta

@Frostwolf103

Scum: Lissi, Zorvo, Ashlyn

@Frostwolf103

All right, here we go…

VOTE: Ashlyn

I did mention she’s in my scumread

One thing to point out is that Frost barely mentions Ashlyn, but votes for Ashlyn and adds Ashlyn to a scum read pile with little actual read

@Frostwolf103

how common is D1 mafia bussing in this game type setup?

it’s quite rare

@Gorta

@Frostwolf103

Who is ‘we’?

Oh that’s right, you.

that’s all of us, like you are preflipping me and zorvo (while Zorvo is your main suspect)

@Gorta

@Frostwolf103

Magnus/Zorvo/Neon

am I not a wolf with Zorvo? (I added this because I accidently clicked enter)

@Gorta

why would you try to reaction test me?

@Gorta

VOTE: Frost I think this is the right vote based on everything I’ve seen today

@Gorta

I’m still content voting Frost I think

@Gorta

wait, @Zone_Q11 , how exactly did I save you again?

@Gorta

I don’t have those kind of powers

@Gorta

I’m hoping to have some thoughts on Wazza soon-ish

@Gorta

@Zone_Q11

Zorvo did talk about it more later on.

so the hole goes deeper?

@Gorta

@Zone_Q11

I did suspect him for that:

I see

@Zone_Q11

To which he responded with “it was just a joke” and “it was just a reaction test”, both of which sounds like weak excuses:

Interesting…

@Gorta

I will, you have peaked my interests

These are the posts Gorta made in regards to both Frost and Zone.

One really odd thing to note is Gorta had Zero Interactions with Zone on Day 1.