Helluva Boss Mafia - Mafia Victory

[Lissi]

oh I guess just waiting to vote in general
Magnus is definitely doing that

@Zone_Q11

Zorvo is voting me to check how Neon reacts.

I thought his post of “I’d like to see you stay there” was indicating his full support of the wagon + watching Neon

[Lissi]

Wait since when did you scumread Neon? And why would vote Neon over your pool of Lemon/Wazza

[Zone_Q11]

@Lissi

Wait since when did you scumread Neon? And why would vote Neon over your pool of Lemon/Wazza

@Zone_Q11

@Lemonfairy

@Chihiro if you’re actually town, post your reads and solve rn

@ElizaThePsycho

also @Zone_Q11 do this too

Chihiro
Eliza, Magnus, Zorvo
Gorta, Lissi

Neon
Wazza
Lemonfairy

I mentioned the rest of my townreads before already, and here I added Zorvo because I just realized that Zorvo was Frost’s counterwagon. He had been pushed a lot by Frost at D2, going as far as to make a list of who Zorvo could’ve been partnered with. That doesn’t seem W/W.

With that in mind, all I have left is a POE of [Neon, Wazza, Lemlem].

Ever since I made my POE and ever since her additional reason to scumread me was the incomprehensible bullshit that is “I want you (Zone) to discuss on the fact that you (Zone) are scum”.
Additionally I think it is Neon/Lemlem because:

@Zone_Q11

Probably Lemonfairy or Wazza.

I can recall four people who are fine with voting Wazza, one of which includes Neon, so it’s probably just Lemlem.

(Lissi. Start reading more.)

[Neon]

[Neon]

I don’t speak Spanish hopefully that doesn’t mean anything bad since i only picked it for the facial reaction lol

[Lissi]

I think this is an incorrect solve. There was a time D1 where the Frost wagon was just Neon and Lemon.

You’re telling me you seriously believe that both of Frost’s scumbuddies would choose to bus him D1 for no reason?

You think that’s more plausible than, idk, Wazza/anyone else? You’re so certain that the 6 people up there are 100% town? What’s the point of the tiers then?

And, you think Zorvo is definitely cleared from Frost, who was prob in anti-spew mode D2, and even if he wasn’t, he literally included himself in the possible partners list with Zorvo.

[Neon]

I have zero desire to work with this town anymore lol

I literally served you all Frost since D1 with Lemon.

I find it funny that Zones PoE includes the two people who served up scum on a silver platter and who’s thought process is on full display in the thread.

I find it funny how Zorvo and Zone have gone out of their way to paint me in the absolute worst light they possibly can and to misrepresent my intent at every turn

I find it funny how Zorvo has repeatedly been able to keep facts straight and the continued attempts to change the meaning of anything I say.

I don’t know whats worse. The world where Zorvo simply isn’t paying attention but is still trying to control the thread as town. Or the world where he’s scum.

[Neon]

So the amount of sus I’m drawing today is kinda just tiresome.

[Neon]

@Lissi

I think this is an incorrect solve. There was a time D1 where the Frost wagon was just Neon and Lemon.

At most they are right on one of us

Most likely they are right on neither.

[Zone_Q11]

What, do you think that w!Neon hopped on w!Wazza’s wagon to save herself, saw an opportunity to switch to my wagon, and then switched over while leading v!Zorvo to follow her?
–because if so, then that would be a genius play!

As for me clearing Zorvo: Yeah, NGL, I still don’t think Frost would bus his scumbuddy to save his own skin. Frost flipped Goon, so the only plausible world where w!Frost would bus w!Zorvo is if Zorvo is also a Goon, but… I thought we had established that there were 3 Town PRs in this game?

[Lissi]

I don’t think it’s either of you but I think it’s Wazza, so.

[Neon]

@Lissi

I don’t think it’s either of you but I think it’s Wazza, so.

I agree that it very well could be as well lol

[Neon]

As I’ve said literally all day

[Neon]

@Zone_Q11

but… I thought we had established that there were 3 Town PRs in this game?

Yeah no that has most certainly not happened lol

[Neon]

[Zone_Q11]

@Lissi, the lack of Neon wanting to defend Wazza (and the fact that she instead wants Wazza dead) is the reason why I don’t think it’s Wazza. (Or at the very least not Neon/Wazza.)

…huh, for some reason it never occurred to me why it couldn’t have been Lemlem/Wazza. I think it’s because Neon’s additional reasoning was so bad that I never thought of a world where she isn’t scum.

[Lissi]

I think Neon’s town, but even if she was wolf, Wazza was consensus POE starting yesterday

And was Frost bussing Zorvo? Remember that giant production where Frost built all of his ISO analyses and solves off Zorvo, but stubbornly refused to move his vote off Gorta?

Plus no, it was not established that there were 3 PRs. If Magnus is an IC maybe, but he’s been saying that since D1 and never got confirmed, so it’s not for sure.

[Zone_Q11]

@Neon

@Zone_Q11

but… I thought we had established that there were 3 Town PRs in this game?

Yeah no that has most certainly not happened lol

@Zorvo

so if Magnus is actually an IC that means we either have BG along with the Jailkeeper or 1-Shot Vigilante I think.

@Zorvo

So yeah if Magnus is actual IC it can still be either or of BG or 1-Shot Vig.
It isn’t automatically BG as the other one.

@Zorvo

unless Magnus is lying about the IC claim but if they aren’t then yeah it’s confirmed mafia has 2 Power Roles.

@Zorvo

@ElizaThePsycho

how do you know mafia has 2 power roles

Number of Town roles -1.

Jailkeeper was claimed
Magnus claims IC

In that world there HAS to also be a Bodyguard or 1-Shot Vigilante

So that number minus 1 is 2 meaning Mafia would have 2 Power Roles.

I was reading Zorvo’s posts and thought everyone agreed there were 3 Town PRs.
Am I incorrect to presume that this is the case?

[Lissi]

unless Magnus is not actually IC, is the key point.
Or, unless Chihiro’s not actually jailkeeper, but I think that’s prob true. Regardless, it’s not confirmed.

I still don’t think it matters because whatever Frost said about Zorvo, his vote was on Gorta the whole time

[Zone_Q11]

@Lissi

I think Neon’s town, but even if she was wolf, Wazza was consensus POE starting yesterday

Eh… I guess I can move over to Wazza, but when will we solve Neon?

@Lissi

And was Frost bussing Zorvo? Remember that giant production where Frost built all of his ISO analyses and solves off Zorvo, but stubbornly refused to move his vote off Gorta?

That… is a fair point.

@Lissi

Plus no, it was not established that there were 3 PRs. If Magnus is an IC maybe, but he’s been saying that since D1 and never got confirmed, so it’s not for sure.

Got it.