if Frost flips scum, would you say all of today was just self-pres + anti-spew mode?
I think it would’ve been pretty obvious by the time he came on that he was the mostly likely exe for the day
I feel a little ranty tbh, but also I guess it’s good that I have a more solid direction to go in with my solving now?
Like previously a lot of my scumleans led nowhere, e.g. Ashlyn flipped town, and after talking to Neon, I think she’s likely town.
IDK if Frost’s flip will really affect my read on Wazza bc they didn’t have that much interaction, but at least it’s better than trying to read Mistyx’s iso like 3 times!
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Yeah, it’s obvious it’s to help me form reads, but you seem to be implying I’m asking them just for the sake of asking, which is incorrect.
I think you’re sticking to your biased read of me simply because it’s easier to do that than anything else.
It’s also probably why you double down on your original read even after inaccuracies are pointed out (and if you think I’m lying and want quote examples, you could just a. ask me to pull them up or b. do it yourself, it’s all in the iso, but you didn’t)
IDK why you’re choosing to park a vote on a wagon that clearly no one else is joining, how would I know, that’s what I’m asking you
But it seems pretty counterproductive.
Lemon’s saying you/Frost are prob not W/W in a w!Frost world bc you didn’t vote Ashlyn (the other top wagon) D1.
I said that’s not a very strong point against being W/W bc at the time, you and Frost were the top wagons, and voting Ashlyn would’ve just tied her with you two, at 2 votes.
And you didn’t vote Ashlyn later to push her over Frost bc you weren’t there.
Voting me in a vanity wagon really doesn’t change much from my POV, but it might make you look more natural and more like you’re genuinely trying to solve at your own pace.
Which is based off 1 comment that you talked about once
I don’t see why you can’t do both, and investigate me/Magnus being W/W too if you think we’re both wolves; like, I want to exe both you and Frost, at the same time. It’s not mutually exclusive.
also you can share your conclusions based on my answers now if you haven’t already
I’m saying, you could be convincing us that we’re wrong, and that is actually just me and not Frost.
I think it’s you and Frost, which is why I’m now focusing on you despite leaving my vote on Frost. But you don’t even think it’s Frost, so shouldn’t you be trying harder to exe someone you think is actually wolf, i.e. me? I don’t get your apathy here.
BTW the wagon size is closer to 5 because Neon and Lemon are both on it in spirit.
why is your vote on me then?
that was before I read you if I recall correctly
why am I so high on your list?
also I’m a part time tutor and it’s the holiday season, so I’m not the most responsive
anyway, I’m here now and I’ll at least give a more conclusive read on Frost
I am slowly getting more and more bad at mafia
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first of all. how is making their own read bad, regardless of whether it’s a slot I feel is town, scum, or nothing about
secondly, this is where you should’ve asked me instead of making your own assumption and taking off like it is the truth of the world
here’s an example
I ask you 1. did you read my iso? 2. magnus read is? 3. frost read is?
you immediately claimed they were useless.
but here’s how they were useful to me:
question breakdown bc it's a bit long
reason for asking: I could see you maybe missing posts if you only skimmed thread, but if you read my iso genuinely thinking, for example, Lissi is scummy for not having any conclusions from questions, and then saw my readlists, it should’ve rung a bell like, wow here’s a conclusion, how notable
what I got: your read intentionally ignored everything in the iso that contradicted your points, which imo was in bad faith and felt scummy
reason for asking: you said at one point magnus was likely scum for tmi, I wanted to know if you ever followed up w that or had a conclusion on it after more digging
what I got: you confirmed you didn’t continue a single step further down that line of thought, which made me feel it was not genuine
but also, that was a chance for you to come out and clarify with something like, “yeah I skimmed Magnus’s iso and felt XYZ stuck out to me” or “I don’t think it was tmi after all because XYZ”
and my conclusion would’ve been totally different, I would’ve thought, yeah she might not have said anything aloud in thread but she was thinking about it, that’s a towny thing
reason for asking: frost is top wagon
what I got: you have no opinion
alr wrote my analysis on this, but again, if you had something else to say that you just hadn’t had time to write before, my read would’ve been different
other example, I asked you for clarification on your first read and said it was vague
you said vagueness didn’t matter
even now I have 0 idea what you were referring to with your claim that I was “going against” my “thread traction,” like idek what that means and it’s not specific at all
but whatever
*like, I can see how maybe it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things
I still got your overall message that post, scumread
but I really would’ve appreciated having more understanding and esp bc it was a scumread about me, knowing exactly what your meaning was so I could either refute it or accept it as valid criticism
and well if I made a conclusion off a misunderstanding it’ll be harder to correct later
but anyways that doesn’t matter too much now, I’m going to bed and will be back tomorrow morning to check in, likely
I have come to the conclusion I should reread posts 200 - 300 to get an actual start in the game
everything that is happening rn builds off of everything that happened earlier and i can barely understand it so
also @Wazza you don’t have to reply to all that, since well, like Lemon said, asking questions is really NAI for me but if you are genuinely trying to read me, then hopefully me writing out my thought process will be useful going forward, and if you meant something else entirely with phrases like “doing stuff,” then you can just lmk and I’ll read that tomorrow
this entire interaction is weird to me
can’t really pinpoint why but
aaand i gtg
will review the rest later
*and also hopefully it didn’t come off too aggressive, sorry if it did, that wasn’t the intention
ah since you’ve brought it up
I think frost’s reponse is a bit weird here bc I’m pretty sure he tried to claim credit for it later, saying that this mistake was actually an RT and that it caught Zorvo
idk if you’ve gotten to that part though
One thing to point out is that Frost barely mentions Ashlyn, but votes for Ashlyn and adds Ashlyn to a scum read pile with little actual read
it’s quite rare
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