I should go to bed its way past midnight forme lmao
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ngl your pfp isnt really my style
i did it for the joke but i didnt have any intention of keeping it on at any point after i stopped personally finding it funny
which happened to be about 150 seconds
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niko moment
nya
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yoshi will remember that
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i have gotten so many it has lost all of its meaning
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you just got 2 right now
give me postgame advice
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do you think you can defy the land?
that what you do matters?
we we all die the same
4/10 too much daniel specter
should i start teaching people how to accurately pretend to be me
the pain this causes me cannot be described in mere words
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thats so much fucking effort
also id have to redact certain things in my dms with chloe
but good for you or something idk
here’s a text version
doesn’t have images so the HTML is better but this is easier to view on more devices
[08-Feb-22 03:41 PM] Arete#7872
Yo orange
Want to TeamSlightlyPolish
[08-Feb-22 03:42 PM] Arete#7872
or are you too busy with your job 😛
[08-Feb-22 03:48 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Okay A would sharing an account even be allowed (that would be much more appealing than not)
B I'm working on designing another game
C I've got a few other things going on
D Nonzero odds I need to dip entirely midway through if my grandmother's health fails
So if you want low-effort possibly-gone orange I can probably provide that but I'd hesitate to say yes without letting you know odds are decent it's mostly just you and even then probably only if a shared account is legal
[08-Feb-22 03:49 PM] Arete#7872
I think a shared account is legal but I'm not 100% positive
I'm okay with Low-Effort Orange but like if you're going to join and then be sad about being in a game because you're so busy then obviously don't join 😛
[08-Feb-22 03:49 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I don't think that me feeling sad is likely but I strongly suspect we lose and I don't feel *happy* with how I did lol
[08-Feb-22 03:50 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
in some ways the job is less busy than school (actually many ways) and it's mostly the other things that will intrude I think
[08-Feb-22 03:52 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
So basically up to you, if you wanna do it ask about the shared account and if you get a yes just make it and in on that
[08-Feb-22 03:57 PM] Arete#7872
well
shared accounts are not only allowed but required for hydra partners
[08-Feb-22 03:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
neato
[08-Feb-22 03:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
good take from mist there
[08-Feb-22 03:57 PM] Arete#7872
ye
[08-Feb-22 04:04 PM] Arete#7872
same login details as previous account
[08-Feb-22 04:04 PM] Arete#7872
well except there's no spaces in the username
[08-Feb-22 04:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
not that I remember those anyways
[08-Feb-22 04:05 PM] Arete#7872
password is [REDACTED]
[08-Feb-22 04:05 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
And ofc I didn't pin it lol
[08-Feb-22 04:05 PM] Arete#7872
which you came up with so you don't get to call it insecure :^)
[08-Feb-22 04:05 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
fuck you
[08-Feb-22 04:05 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
was halfway through typing that up
[09-Feb-22 02:54 PM] Arete#7872
I'm looking through the playerlist and really hoping we rand town 😹
~~which usually precedes a scum rand, so if you've been hoping for one of those, then good news~~
[09-Feb-22 02:54 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Nah we're gonna rand town and lose
[09-Feb-22 02:56 PM] Arete#7872
I mean that's also not impossible
the playerlist mostly (with a few exceptions) isn't /good/, just /polarized/, which is a combination that has historically tended to result in a bunch of polarized obvious villagers getting other polarized obvious villagers voted out
[09-Feb-22 02:56 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Either way at least the playerlist is *enjoyable*
[09-Feb-22 02:56 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also do you like the title
If anyone not named Chloe asks you put it on
[09-Feb-22 02:56 PM] Arete#7872
it's mildly amusing
[09-Feb-22 02:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Close enough
[10-Feb-22 11:15 AM] Arete#7872
fuck
[10-Feb-22 11:22 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
lol are we scum
[10-Feb-22 11:22 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
who with
[10-Feb-22 11:23 AM] Arete#7872
Leafia/YBW
[10-Feb-22 11:24 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Oh fuck
[10-Feb-22 11:24 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
You know I might reconsider my stance on bussing
[10-Feb-22 11:25 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
How's YBW
[10-Feb-22 11:25 AM] Arete#7872
uhh
kind of LHFy as both alignments but not super polarized
[10-Feb-22 11:25 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Okay that's at least something
[10-Feb-22 11:26 AM] Arete#7872
supposedly Leafia has gotten better at not TMIing the entire wolfteam
[10-Feb-22 11:26 AM] Arete#7872
so that's cool
[10-Feb-22 11:26 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Literally nightmare scenario rand in this game
[10-Feb-22 11:26 AM] Arete#7872
https://discord.gg/SGNGnauB
[10-Feb-22 11:26 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
But not necessarily unwinnable
[10-Feb-22 11:26 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
glgl
[10-Feb-22 11:26 AM] Arete#7872
glgl
[10-Feb-22 01:18 PM] Arete#7872
yo I heard you have too many servers
should I ban you from FAM scumchat so that you have fewer?
[10-Feb-22 01:18 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
only if you want me to out from this game
[10-Feb-22 01:18 PM] Arete#7872
😹
[10-Feb-22 01:19 PM] Arete#7872
is there like an actual reason you don't want to join scumchat
[10-Feb-22 01:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
My servers are full
[10-Feb-22 01:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I also can't say randing with Leafia/YBW has made me more likely to waste time at work digging for something to leave
[10-Feb-22 01:21 PM] Arete#7872
If it's genuinely only the server thing I can buy you a month of Nitro
[10-Feb-22 01:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Is there any reason this is so pressing it cannot wait until after work
[10-Feb-22 01:21 PM] Arete#7872
no
[10-Feb-22 03:42 PM] Arete#7872
we are being assigned a Mandatory Identifying Title 😔
[10-Feb-22 06:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
sad
[10-Feb-22 08:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-1-10-10/1161/195?u=orangeandblack5
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Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 1 (10/10)
@LeafiabutWorse be honest are you mafia with arete
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[10-Feb-22 08:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I see it's time for me to go home
[10-Feb-22 08:38 PM] Arete#7872
dwdw we have a brilliant plan to win the game but I posted it in scumchat 😔
[10-Feb-22 08:42 PM] Arete#7872
btw the Nitro offer was serious if all of your hundred servers are really that important to you 😛
[11-Feb-22 12:14 AM] Arete#7872
btw I'm currently voting Leafia
before I was voting cat
village Arete informed you of both of those and sent you an explanation
if you want that explanation I can give it
if you want to sell me on the merits of not bussing Leafia I am also willing to listen
[11-Feb-22 07:43 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I don't understand why you would not send me the explanation and instead tell me you sent an explanation
[11-Feb-22 07:44 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
what am I supposed to do, magically make it up? 😛
[11-Feb-22 04:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
So what's the plan
[11-Feb-22 04:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Is it "sink LBW" or "save LBW"
[11-Feb-22 04:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also why have you still not sent your explanation lol
[11-Feb-22 04:02 PM] Arete#7872
well first I was asleep
and then I was like 'I'll do it when I get on laptop' and never got on laptop
I can do that now
[11-Feb-22 04:02 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
neato
[11-Feb-22 04:02 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I can post some if you want but if you think that's unideal I can not
[11-Feb-22 04:03 PM] Arete#7872
I'm not convinced we have a plan 😹
I didn't really want to bus them but they extremely obviously did a tell that I had specifically discussed with Trochi as a strong wolftell and like
normally 'I have to have this read because I would have it as town' is dumb but it would have actually been a wolfclaim to not
[11-Feb-22 04:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Did Trochi bring it up
[11-Feb-22 04:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Or did you
[11-Feb-22 04:04 PM] Arete#7872
He had already referenced it earlier in the game, we mentioned it at about the same time when Leafia did it
[11-Feb-22 04:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also if it was the "defend something you didn't do" bit then you could pretty easily blame that on hydra dynamics
[11-Feb-22 04:05 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Or at least tell Leafia/YBW to do so
[11-Feb-22 04:05 PM] Arete#7872
I forget which of us was technically first
no that wasn't it
that I mostly brought up to try to make PKR look bad but it backfired
[11-Feb-22 04:05 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
What was it lol
[11-Feb-22 04:06 PM] Arete#7872
the thing about being like 'gosh, I cannot believe you would dare to vote me without explaining, truly, I am asserting a high ground here'
[11-Feb-22 04:06 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
can you send a link lol
[11-Feb-22 04:08 PM] Arete#7872
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-1-10-10/1161/479?u=arete
~~it wasn't even a central example of the thing but I correctly predicted Trochi would think it was~~
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Please explain this vote.
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[11-Feb-22 04:21 PM] Arete#7872
ok so
village Arete briefly explained they were tinfoiling Trochi/cat as w/w for reasons that are like, objectively kind of dumb
but didn't actually elaborate in hydra chat
then was like 'nvm but kat is still sus'
and wrote up an explanation about how she was pushing us for shitty reasons that she didn't actually believe
and then was like 'also before you say anything I'm not just saying this because she's pushing us'
and then compared it to how she and Disq kept trying to PoE us in H21G10
and then stopped sending things for a while because you weren't responding 😛
when you randomly came in, voted cat, and did nothing else that might have been what was up?
a bit later they linked this post: https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-1-10-10/1161/338?u=arete
and were like
?????????????????
why would you say this as scum but WHY WOULD YOU SAY THIS AS TOWN HYDRAING WITH LEAFIA
then later on when that hydra made the 'Please explain' post they were like 'oh my god Leafia did the tell!!!!!'
and then started trying to defend to you that this is a totally legitimate and effective tell
then they went to sleep
and then just recently they were like 'okay SO you remember when Urist did his gimmick in champs'
'did Elli ever talk to you about the thing where he pushed Skunki for non-true reasons and Skunki got defensive rather than saying those reasons weren't true'
'because Leafia just did that 😹'
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Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 1 (10/10)
have u ever played terraria, literally easiest boss in the entire game, the temple is harder than golem, smh smh honestly im just kinda waiting for leafia to make reads and I will just sheep those
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[11-Feb-22 04:22 PM] Arete#7872
they haven't talked to you about other reads because you've been busy/not responding ('orange hasn't been talking to me' is something established-in-thread)
[11-Feb-22 04:22 PM] Arete#7872
oh also btw I forget if you know this but Ruby from Melodydra is TL
[11-Feb-22 04:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I do
[11-Feb-22 04:23 PM] Arete#7872
~~will your posts be villagery or wolfy~~
[11-Feb-22 04:23 PM] Arete#7872
~~and if the latter, will the wolfy posts serve some other useful purpose~~
[11-Feb-22 04:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I mean if you want to to try and hardsave leafia I probably can
[11-Feb-22 04:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
In Vig10 that may not be the best idea but I *can* do it
[11-Feb-22 04:24 PM] Arete#7872
vig10 is sort of funky because like
hardsaving her is maybe a bad idae
but bussing her might still get us shot depending on if the vig is on the 'Arete town' train or the 'Arete/Leafia w/w' train
[11-Feb-22 04:24 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Other than that I'm currently planning to treat this like just about any other low-effort orange game unless there's reason not to
[11-Feb-22 04:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also fwiw if I hard dunk on Leafia we probably don't ever get vigged
[11-Feb-22 04:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
But we also probably lose that F3?
[11-Feb-22 04:25 PM] Arete#7872
half the game doesn't know orangemeta! so idk how much it would help
[11-Feb-22 04:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I don't care I'd let them know lmao
[11-Feb-22 04:26 PM] Arete#7872
opinions on whether we should tell Leafia to claim vig
(which obviously gets her shot, but)
if we can get a claim out it's obviously worth it, if we can get a villager exe'd it's probably worth it, the main thing I'm worried about is that people are like 'oh, if Leafia is confirmed town then orange/Arete are probably scum again' and we get voted out and then she gets shot anyway
[11-Feb-22 04:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'd rather not do it (bus Leafia) but if you're set on it anyways then I could just hop on that
[11-Feb-22 04:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
As for having Leafia claim Vig... nah
[11-Feb-22 04:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Would be better to have us (me) claim Vig tomorrow if she gets shot I think
[11-Feb-22 04:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I can pretty easily say "I have 100% read accuracy on Leafia and she was scum so we shot there"
Vig probably buys that as cover 🤷♂️
[11-Feb-22 04:30 PM] Arete#7872
I think Leafia being shot is unlikely since she, like, has spent a significant portion of the day at L-1
[11-Feb-22 04:30 PM] Arete#7872
although eevee was defending her, last I saw?
[11-Feb-22 04:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
It is super likely if somebody else flips
[11-Feb-22 04:31 PM] Arete#7872
well yes but that's the unlikely part 😛
[11-Feb-22 04:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
obviously we could help make that happen
[11-Feb-22 04:31 PM] Arete#7872
unless you go all in on saving her in which case idk how you would plausibly claim to shoot her?
[11-Feb-22 04:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Ye that plan would necessitate me sitting today out almost entirely
[11-Feb-22 04:32 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Which works for me lol
[11-Feb-22 04:32 PM] Arete#7872
Well I also don't have the progression really to do that 😛
I mean I guess I could just
decide to save her
which is a thing I sometimes do
I'm just not convinced that that's a *good idea that will increase our chances of winning*
[11-Feb-22 04:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Having them get D1'd is bad bad bad if you think there's any chance the vig shoots us off of it
[11-Feb-22 04:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Which it sounds like you think is a realistic possibility
[11-Feb-22 04:34 PM] Arete#7872
it depends strongly on who the vig is
[11-Feb-22 04:34 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Do you have any vig reads
[11-Feb-22 04:34 PM] Arete#7872
no
[11-Feb-22 04:34 PM] Arete#7872
well
[11-Feb-22 04:34 PM] Arete#7872
I think Eli/FK are trying to look like the vig
[11-Feb-22 04:34 PM] Arete#7872
and therefore aren't
[11-Feb-22 04:36 PM] Arete#7872
I just opened thread and multiple people are calling for a hammer on Leafia 😹
[11-Feb-22 04:37 PM] Arete#7872
is she still at L-1
[11-Feb-22 04:37 PM] Arete#7872
what if we got her to self-hammer
[11-Feb-22 04:37 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
this is going great lmao
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[11-Feb-22 04:37 PM] Arete#7872
how dumb is that
[11-Feb-22 04:37 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
uh
[11-Feb-22 04:37 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
probably unideal?
[11-Feb-22 04:37 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
feels like it spews the people defending her town
[11-Feb-22 04:37 PM] Arete#7872
o fair
[11-Feb-22 04:37 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
esp on D1
[11-Feb-22 04:38 PM] Arete#7872
anyways I have an event thing to go to in like 5 minutes
[11-Feb-22 04:38 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
glgl
[11-Feb-22 04:38 PM] Arete#7872
ty
[11-Feb-22 04:38 PM] Arete#7872
feel free to do whatever in the thread
[11-Feb-22 04:38 PM] Arete#7872
or like
[11-Feb-22 04:38 PM] Arete#7872
whatever you think is helpful
[11-Feb-22 04:39 PM] Arete#7872
obviously do not post 'I, orange, am a wolf with LBW'
[11-Feb-22 04:39 PM] Arete#7872
but otherwise I trust your judgment
[11-Feb-22 04:39 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I think my two choices are basically "dodge the thread" or "just sink leafia"
[11-Feb-22 04:39 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
The former is much more appealing lol
[11-Feb-22 04:40 PM] Arete#7872
because you think the former will work better or because you don't want to break your nonbussing meta 😛
or something else
[11-Feb-22 04:40 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I don't think it's breaking any meta because it's not like it's something I intentionally keep up
[11-Feb-22 04:40 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
And hammering a partner on L-1 is hardly a bus when I did nothing to put them there lol
[11-Feb-22 04:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
It's just not a fun idea to kill a partner halfway through D1 in a two-scum game
[11-Feb-22 04:41 PM] Arete#7872
I mean we're already voting them so you can't hammer
[11-Feb-22 04:41 PM] Arete#7872
unless you unvoted
[11-Feb-22 04:41 PM] Arete#7872
in which case they aren't at L-1
[11-Feb-22 04:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
you know what I mean
[11-Feb-22 04:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Pushing a partner over the edge who has already gotten themselves into a near-certain-death position is hardly bussing them lol
[11-Feb-22 04:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'll sure call it such in thread if we do lol
[11-Feb-22 04:43 PM] Arete#7872
ok I have to go now
[11-Feb-22 04:43 PM] Arete#7872
bye
[11-Feb-22 04:43 PM] Arete#7872
glgl
[11-Feb-22 04:43 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
chau
[11-Feb-22 06:58 PM] Arete#7872
I'm back-ish
have you been doing anything in thread, and separately, did Town Orange leave posts in hydra chat for me or anything
[11-Feb-22 07:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Nor really and no
[11-Feb-22 07:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
And from how things are progressing it's better this way methinks
[11-Feb-22 07:29 PM] Arete#7872
yeah I took a glance at the thread and saw the wagons were 3 Leafia/2 us/2 Kiiruma
[11-Feb-22 07:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Ye
[11-Feb-22 07:29 PM] Arete#7872
although that swinging around to an us wagon is also not ideal 😛
[11-Feb-22 07:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
tbf one of those is LBW
[11-Feb-22 07:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
which
[11-Feb-22 07:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
😬
[11-Feb-22 07:30 PM] Arete#7872
I mean I guess it's ideal from a perspective of 'not having to play as mafia'
[11-Feb-22 07:30 PM] Arete#7872
but not from 'winning the game'
[11-Feb-22 07:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
We shoulda hard banned them from voting us
[11-Feb-22 07:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Based on Leafia's track record that would have been better
[11-Feb-22 07:30 PM] Arete#7872
Leafia in scumchat is like 'oh yeah after SCP mafia no one will ever expect me to vote a partner!!!'
[11-Feb-22 07:30 PM] Arete#7872
which is
[11-Feb-22 07:30 PM] Arete#7872
uh
[11-Feb-22 07:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
wut
[11-Feb-22 07:31 PM] Arete#7872
apparently she defended her partners there?
[11-Feb-22 07:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I didn't read SCP
[11-Feb-22 07:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
But wat
[11-Feb-22 07:31 PM] Arete#7872
I didn't feel like I could tell her she wasn't allowed to vote us when I was totally planning to keep the 'we vote her' option on the table
[11-Feb-22 07:32 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
That's not how that works lel
[12-Feb-22 12:53 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
is there anything in particular you would like from me while I'm here
[12-Feb-22 12:53 AM] Arete#7872
uhhhhhh
if I say 'for you to be townie so that people stop voting us' will that result in you being townie
[12-Feb-22 12:54 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I will be the first to say that I am rarely if ever towny as town
[12-Feb-22 12:54 AM] Arete#7872
yes but people here mostly don't know that
or if they do they don't believe it
[12-Feb-22 12:54 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
my strategy is moreso "sell people on my bullshit" but that does require having bullshit to sell them on which I currently do not
[12-Feb-22 12:55 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
anyways I think it's reasonable to give at least some kinda take on leafiaslot
[12-Feb-22 12:55 AM] Arete#7872
and you're wondering if you should bus them or try to defend them?
[12-Feb-22 12:55 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
pmuch
[12-Feb-22 12:56 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
also are either of them awake and active in scumchat rn
[12-Feb-22 12:56 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
or did leafia actually go to bed
[12-Feb-22 12:56 AM] Arete#7872
uhhhh
well my initial thought was that you should bus them because they're super wolfy
but I'm pretty sure that's TMI talking
[12-Feb-22 12:56 AM] Arete#7872
Leafia is displaying as offline, YBW is displaying as online, no idea if Leafia is actually offline or lurking on invisible
[12-Feb-22 12:56 AM] Arete#7872
do you want me to ping them and ask
[12-Feb-22 12:57 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
nah just wondering if I should bother leaving something and joining atm
[12-Feb-22 12:57 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
if they aren't active no real point this instant and I'm very low on things I can leave without needing to care
[12-Feb-22 12:57 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I should really set up some kinda alt for old games at some point
[12-Feb-22 12:59 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
meh
I'm not active enough to feel confident choosing a course here lol
[12-Feb-22 01:00 AM] Arete#7872
if you want to take the cheap way out you can say that you haven't had time to look into them but for now you're sheeping me because I seem confident
[12-Feb-22 01:00 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
lol
[12-Feb-22 01:00 AM] Arete#7872
which gives you the opportunity to pivot later if you really want to
[12-Feb-22 01:00 AM] Arete#7872
and be like 'ok I actually read their posts and Arete is an idiot'
[12-Feb-22 01:01 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'd feel more comfortable with that if you'd been defending them lol
[12-Feb-22 01:02 AM] Arete#7872
mmm
[12-Feb-22 01:02 AM] Arete#7872
I think there's a decent chance we go over day 1 😹
[12-Feb-22 01:02 AM] Arete#7872
in which case
[12-Feb-22 01:02 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
so then don't do that
[12-Feb-22 01:02 AM] Arete#7872
...well, *we* don't have a harsh TMIing-all-our-partners meta
but also there's no way YBW can carry us
[12-Feb-22 01:02 AM] Arete#7872
er
[12-Feb-22 01:02 AM] Arete#7872
LBW
[12-Feb-22 01:02 AM] Arete#7872
don't do what
[12-Feb-22 01:02 AM] Arete#7872
don't get voted?
[12-Feb-22 01:02 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
go over d1
[12-Feb-22 01:02 AM] Arete#7872
yes wow thank you for the very helpful advice
[12-Feb-22 01:03 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
just lynch litten 4head
[12-Feb-22 01:04 AM] Arete#7872
maybe
[12-Feb-22 01:05 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
anyways things seem to be progressing not awfully without any additional steering atm
[12-Feb-22 01:06 AM] Arete#7872
I mean we might be the top wagon
[12-Feb-22 01:06 AM] Arete#7872
idk
[12-Feb-22 01:06 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
ideally we let people talk themselves into considering one of, say, HH/BB/MR and then either join that or apply pressure to eli
[12-Feb-22 01:06 AM] Arete#7872
the hosts aren't posting very many votecounts
[12-Feb-22 01:06 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
okay but my point is people don't have much direction
[12-Feb-22 01:06 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
such that a strong push can cause a lot of influence
[12-Feb-22 01:06 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I don't think now is that time because there's nothing to push atm
[12-Feb-22 01:06 AM] Arete#7872
who is BB
[12-Feb-22 01:06 AM] Arete#7872
oh wait
[12-Feb-22 01:06 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
trochi
[12-Feb-22 01:06 AM] Arete#7872
birds and bee
[12-Feb-22 01:07 AM] Arete#7872
not that bee has been there
[12-Feb-22 01:07 AM] Arete#7872
like at all
[12-Feb-22 01:07 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
that's maybe pushable
[12-Feb-22 01:07 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
even from your "I had a mindmeld" pov
[12-Feb-22 01:07 AM] Arete#7872
I've been defending them but if we really really need to I can pivot
[12-Feb-22 01:07 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
but like either way you don't necessarily need to pivot on anything
[12-Feb-22 01:07 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I have no pre-established takes
[12-Feb-22 01:07 AM] Arete#7872
fair enough
[12-Feb-22 01:08 AM] Arete#7872
if it would be helpful for me to conveniently miss EoD I can arrange to do that
[12-Feb-22 01:08 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
not even necessarily that late
[12-Feb-22 01:08 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
really thinking the move is gonna be to have me come in and do things tomorrow morning
[12-Feb-22 01:08 AM] Arete#7872
uh I just invisibled myself so that if I do that I don't accidentally out myself via Discord
[12-Feb-22 01:08 AM] Arete#7872
so don't assume that if I'm invisible I'm not here
[12-Feb-22 01:08 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
because rn it's kinda just FPSers and cat finding each other and like we don't really have the cred to shut that down anyways
[12-Feb-22 01:09 AM] Arete#7872
valid
just like
if I'm not there at EoD
then you can vote whoever you want
[12-Feb-22 01:09 AM] Arete#7872
tbh people finding FPSers as town was semi-inevitable
both slots have a meta of not super trying as wolf
[12-Feb-22 01:09 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
oh right, bradslot
[12-Feb-22 01:09 AM] Arete#7872
BK's used to be *deliberate* although fortunately he *seems* to have stopped doing it on purpose
[12-Feb-22 01:09 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
also I've only seen scum!light once and she did good enough
[12-Feb-22 01:09 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
definitely best on her team
[12-Feb-22 01:09 AM] Arete#7872
ok but
[12-Feb-22 01:09 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
low bar but
[12-Feb-22 01:09 AM] Arete#7872
the rest of her team had what
[12-Feb-22 01:10 AM] Arete#7872
5 posts between them?
[12-Feb-22 01:10 AM] Arete#7872
maybe 10?
[12-Feb-22 01:10 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
around that
[12-Feb-22 01:10 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
who was it again
[12-Feb-22 01:10 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
blitz and uh
[12-Feb-22 01:10 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
idr
[12-Feb-22 01:11 AM] Arete#7872
I know the answer but I think it was nonpublic
[12-Feb-22 01:11 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
i thought everyone was public
[12-Feb-22 01:11 AM] Arete#7872
not anyone in this game
[12-Feb-22 01:11 AM] Arete#7872
idk I could be wrong
[12-Feb-22 01:11 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
and that I was the only one who was nonpublic
[12-Feb-22 01:11 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
well
[12-Feb-22 01:11 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
"nonpublic"
[12-Feb-22 01:11 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
lmao
[12-Feb-22 01:12 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
but yeah I can see what I can coalesce tomorrow, talking rn seems unideal on several levels
[12-Feb-22 01:12 AM] Arete#7872
fairfair
[12-Feb-22 02:52 AM] Arete#7872
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-1-10-10/1161/1454?u=teamslightlypolish
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Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 1 (10/10)
ok I’m finally all caught up thoughts from the last 800-ish posts: I think Dum is villagery. There’s a sort of archetype of less-experienced player, where they’ve sort of noticed that people don’t take them quite as seriously, but they still desperately want to be relevant, and they have a handful of reads that they really believe in and real...
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[12-Feb-22 02:53 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
gosh
[12-Feb-22 02:53 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
that's
[12-Feb-22 02:53 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
a lot
[12-Feb-22 02:53 AM] Arete#7872
town Arete just sent this to you along with a passive-aggressive comment in response to your comment about me not talking to you :^)
(scum Arete obviously has no reason to be passive aggressive about you not discussing reads with me)
(especially since you have been discussing things with me, just not things we can really say we discussed 😹 )
[12-Feb-22 02:55 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
holy fuck
[12-Feb-22 02:55 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
plot twist of the century
[12-Feb-22 02:55 AM] Arete#7872
what
[12-Feb-22 02:55 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
the "jailor" was the mayor and now maf just lose because triplevoter
[12-Feb-22 02:56 AM] Arete#7872
what alignment are you
[12-Feb-22 02:56 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
town
[12-Feb-22 02:56 AM] Arete#7872
also wouldn't mafia lose anyway in any situation where 'the jailor is the mayor' means 'town wins' rather than 'town loses more slowly'
because the jailor has a gun
[12-Feb-22 02:57 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
witch
[12-Feb-22 02:57 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
also jailor is also alive
[12-Feb-22 02:57 AM] Arete#7872
oh
[12-Feb-22 02:57 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
it's just not the person who had been claiming it since D1
[12-Feb-22 02:59 AM] Arete#7872
well
congrats on the win ⬆️
[12-Feb-22 02:59 AM] Arete#7872
er
[12-Feb-22 02:59 AM] Arete#7872
🙃
[12-Feb-22 02:59 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
ty
[12-Feb-22 03:00 AM] Arete#7872
is there anything you think would be particularly useful for me to do tomorrow
[12-Feb-22 03:00 AM] Arete#7872
like game wise
[12-Feb-22 03:01 AM] Arete#7872
or today, if you've already slept
[12-Feb-22 03:01 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I've read very little of the game so you tell me lol
[12-Feb-22 03:02 AM] Arete#7872
I mean
'be townie enough to not be top wagon'
'get a villager killed, somehow'
but if I knew how to do the first thing we wouldn't be top wagon
[12-Feb-22 03:02 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
lol
[12-Feb-22 03:02 AM] Arete#7872
~~also the things people are pushing us for are a mix of 'actually legitimately super wolfy' and 'literally just my personality and something I do every game' and I definitely don't know how to have a different personality~~
[12-Feb-22 03:04 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
fwiw I think the parts of your personality that you let through are likely to be AI anyways so I'm not sure I see that as being uncontrollable or a bad thing to read you off of entirely
[12-Feb-22 03:06 AM] Arete#7872
I mean there are definitely ways that it's AI and I'm really trying not to do the 'I would have done it as town!!!!' thing about things I would not have done it as town but when I get pushed for {some personality trait} every single game I play on FoL regardless of alignment I feel kind of justified in saying it's just my personality
[12-Feb-22 03:07 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
the like one post of yours I saw was you being like "how dare you shade orange he's at work" and that's both objectively untrue and also something I don't think you would have expressed in the same manner as town
[12-Feb-22 03:07 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
so like yes that was your personality but also I think the place it comes from is ultimately alignment-based
[12-Feb-22 03:07 AM] Arete#7872
oh that one was wolfy
[12-Feb-22 03:08 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
beyond that I have literally zero idea what in particular you're referring to
[12-Feb-22 03:08 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
lol
[12-Feb-22 03:08 AM] Arete#7872
although I did think you were at wolf
[12-Feb-22 03:08 AM] Arete#7872
*at work
[12-Feb-22 03:08 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I mean
[12-Feb-22 03:08 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I am at wolf 🤔
[12-Feb-22 03:08 AM] Arete#7872
🤔
[12-Feb-22 03:12 AM] Arete#7872
~~my other reason for thinking that is that when I was alting on MU and deliberately disguising some of those quirks I got a bunch of free townreads for no reason even though I was (a) a wolf (b) super wolfy~~
although that's probably partially 'MU townreads effort unless they specifically believe you try as a wolf, and their default expectation is that wolves don't really try all that much'
which is maybe an uncharitable way of phrasing the thing-MU-is-doing but not totally wrong
[12-Feb-22 03:13 AM] Arete#7872
would it be helpful for me to come up with some pushable things EngineerGaming has done that you can then push them for or do you think you have that covered
[12-Feb-22 03:13 AM] Arete#7872
or another villagedra if you'd rather misexe someone else
[12-Feb-22 03:15 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
the plan remains "see where things go" and now that you/cat/FPSers are all on ~the same page regarding general PoE we can see where things move from there and capitalize
[12-Feb-22 03:15 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
after all I think there's almost nothing we can do that is actively worse than the state we're in lmao
[12-Feb-22 03:16 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
but yeah I just think that sending leafia over today is a losing strategy
[12-Feb-22 03:16 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
admittedly I know from experience I will always think that
[12-Feb-22 03:16 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
but I'd prefer to get at least a chance at the vig before having to lose a partner
[12-Feb-22 03:16 AM] Arete#7872
well cat is back to suspecting us
[12-Feb-22 03:16 AM] Arete#7872
which is fun
[12-Feb-22 03:17 AM] Arete#7872
(it is not fun)
[12-Feb-22 03:17 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
who cares
[12-Feb-22 03:17 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
tbh
[12-Feb-22 03:17 AM] Arete#7872
me
[12-Feb-22 03:17 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
them suspecting us does not prevent them from suspecting others
[12-Feb-22 03:17 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
they are also not the whole thread
[12-Feb-22 03:18 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
also we can just N1 them if we live and care then
[12-Feb-22 03:18 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
but like in the moment wincon sure looks to me like "don't lose a member D1 in a vig game"
[12-Feb-22 03:18 AM] Arete#7872
btw I kind of think Wind might be vig
and that's why she cares so much about surviving and not about being townie
but idk if she'd just *say* that as vig
[12-Feb-22 03:19 AM] Arete#7872
like I remember her saying that as PR at some point?
[12-Feb-22 03:19 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I mean you've seen me be PR (most notably S7G4)
[12-Feb-22 03:19 AM] Arete#7872
but I don't remember when?
[12-Feb-22 03:19 AM] Arete#7872
so maybe I'm misremembering?
[12-Feb-22 03:19 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
and you will know I'm not always the most subtle about it
[12-Feb-22 03:19 AM] Arete#7872
'you feel like you have TMI on my alignment'
'yes'
[12-Feb-22 03:19 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
also did you read lightfoot in S8G8
[12-Feb-22 03:19 AM] Arete#7872
somewhat
[12-Feb-22 03:19 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
"I didn't track that"
[12-Feb-22 03:19 AM] Arete#7872
weren't they specifically being PRy in a context where a wolf had claimed PR though
[12-Feb-22 03:20 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
no
[12-Feb-22 03:20 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
they were doing that ahead of time it was just what allowed them to win the resulting CC battle
[12-Feb-22 03:20 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I thought it was cover lmao
[12-Feb-22 03:20 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
didn't believe somebody would actually do that
[12-Feb-22 03:25 AM] Arete#7872
if your read of the gamestate is that I should just, pick a villager, and decide that actually they are a wolf and I should deathtunnel them, I can do that
[12-Feb-22 03:25 AM] Arete#7872
if your read of the gamestate is that I should subtly and without tunnelling push a villager over Leafia I can ... try?
[12-Feb-22 10:04 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
okay p sure I have chloe decently pocketed for the time being
[12-Feb-22 10:11 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
also most people are townreading LBW now
[12-Feb-22 10:11 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I think
[12-Feb-22 10:11 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
at least most people that are active today
[12-Feb-22 10:11 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I have voted EngineerGaming
[12-Feb-22 10:11 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
feel free to change it
[12-Feb-22 10:11 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
just, I've seen a few fk "wolf-isms" as I think you might say
[12-Feb-22 10:21 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
well
[12-Feb-22 10:21 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'm now afraid one of my friends has had some shit go down irl
[12-Feb-22 10:21 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
and yet I'm probably going to push him anyways
[12-Feb-22 10:21 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
mafia is a cruel mistress
[12-Feb-22 10:27 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
@Arete
> arete if u gave me the rope to hang your partner i’m gonna laugh so fuckign hard
trochi quote
[12-Feb-22 10:40 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
also if you show up try and coax more out of trochislot for me
[12-Feb-22 10:40 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
specifically about anybody other than us
[12-Feb-22 11:02 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
oh god oh fuck
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[12-Feb-22 11:30 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
gonna take a break specifically to avoid postcount getting too high
[12-Feb-22 11:30 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
not because of the cap
[12-Feb-22 11:30 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
because it's +EV
[12-Feb-22 12:09 PM] Arete#7872
hi
I'm awake
[12-Feb-22 12:09 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Things going decently
[12-Feb-22 12:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Boutta take a bike ride
[12-Feb-22 12:10 PM] Arete#7872
how much did Town orange tell me about Engineer overnight
[12-Feb-22 12:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Probably not a ton based on our past games lol
[12-Feb-22 12:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
This was penned from the pov of what you'd need to know to support my viewpoint
[12-Feb-22 12:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
A few specifics would be "it reminds me of VCFM in particular how he's handling things like the Vig (unsure if you should rep this ver batim) and general pushes, and I'm also getting Orangevitational flashbacks when he's making it sound like "oh the game is simple" but he isn't actually ever putting anything out there that makes me see why he thinks that and is in fact instead intentionally obfuscating information"
[12-Feb-22 12:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
But frankly I think things seem decently under control so you probably don't need to go crazy on anything
[12-Feb-22 12:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also if you wanna still be sus of LBW be my guest but we really don't want them lynched with EG having that pairing dead to rights
[12-Feb-22 12:16 PM] Arete#7872
o7
[12-Feb-22 02:07 PM] Arete#7872
ok look
that quote is about something I told him *before the game*
I'm not going to avoid trying to help people improve just so that in future games I'll have an easier time!!!
[12-Feb-22 02:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
still v funny
[12-Feb-22 02:19 PM] Arete#7872
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-1-10-10/1161/2006?u=teamslightlypolish
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Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 1 (10/10)
Tell orange that he sucks at reading me
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[12-Feb-22 02:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Why did you quote kat asking if we were town
[12-Feb-22 02:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
But not say we were town
[12-Feb-22 02:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
bruh
[12-Feb-22 02:21 PM] Arete#7872
uhhh
[12-Feb-22 02:21 PM] Arete#7872
I thought I did
[12-Feb-22 02:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
b r u h
[12-Feb-22 02:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Just don't comment on it maybe? lmao
[12-Feb-22 02:22 PM] Arete#7872
uhhh
[12-Feb-22 02:22 PM] Arete#7872
too late
[12-Feb-22 02:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
When somebody asks you can say you did and don't know where it went?
[12-Feb-22 02:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Bringing me into this when nobody knew I was around is even worse lmao
Fine I'll fucking talk now gg
[12-Feb-22 02:23 PM] Arete#7872
if you want to lurk like that set yourself to invisible
[12-Feb-22 02:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'm not even lurking I'm literally not around lol
[12-Feb-22 02:24 PM] Arete#7872
lots of people are going to be active on Discord because of hydra chats and they'll notice if you are claiming not to be around but have a green light (although obviously they can't *say* that)
[12-Feb-22 02:50 PM] Arete#7872
ok so Litten's vig claim is definitely fake
[12-Feb-22 02:50 PM] Arete#7872
right
[12-Feb-22 02:50 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Probably not?
[12-Feb-22 02:50 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
He gets shot right
[12-Feb-22 02:50 PM] Arete#7872
yeah
[12-Feb-22 02:50 PM] Arete#7872
I mean
[12-Feb-22 02:51 PM] Arete#7872
if it's fake he gets shot
[12-Feb-22 02:51 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Ye
[12-Feb-22 02:51 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
So why fake it
[12-Feb-22 02:51 PM] Arete#7872
I kind of think he's going for the 'push a wolf, avoid getting vigged' VT strategy
[12-Feb-22 02:51 PM] Arete#7872
buuuut I could be wrong
[12-Feb-22 02:51 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Well his wolves are 1/3 atm
[12-Feb-22 02:51 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
So we can ensure that works out
[12-Feb-22 02:51 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also we'll watch Wind
[12-Feb-22 02:52 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Who I think has been attempting to cover
[12-Feb-22 02:52 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Because if they're real vig they always CC this imo
[12-Feb-22 02:52 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
The slots have been going at it and
[12-Feb-22 02:52 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I don't think they wait to shoot them?
[12-Feb-22 02:53 PM] Arete#7872
*nod*
idk
[12-Feb-22 02:53 PM] Arete#7872
so who are we misexeing if we can't misexe Engineer
[12-Feb-22 02:53 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Ideally
[12-Feb-22 02:53 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Engineer
[12-Feb-22 02:53 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Literally worst possible vig slot if vig
[12-Feb-22 02:53 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Fuck this rand
[12-Feb-22 02:53 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
lmao
[12-Feb-22 02:55 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
At least it could give me a chance to be on the right side of history if MR goes over
[12-Feb-22 03:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Literal fucking nightmare scenario rand
[12-Feb-22 03:08 PM] Arete#7872
btw I'm deliberately lurking right now to give your vote on the claimed vig some time to simmer
[12-Feb-22 03:09 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'm just waiting to se what HH do
[12-Feb-22 03:09 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
But it's probably just fire
[12-Feb-22 03:09 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
[12-Feb-22 03:10 PM] Arete#7872
worst case scenario we lose
[12-Feb-22 03:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Badly
[12-Feb-22 03:10 PM] Arete#7872
yeah
[12-Feb-22 03:19 PM] Arete#7872
HH disappeared, like, exactly when Engineer claimed vig
[12-Feb-22 03:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Yes
[12-Feb-22 03:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
That's why I revoted
[12-Feb-22 03:20 PM] Arete#7872
which is WOLFY because they are a FROZEN WOLF
[12-Feb-22 03:20 PM] Arete#7872
ah
[12-Feb-22 03:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
And why I'm waiting
[12-Feb-22 03:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
My thought process is basically "if they're vig they go discuss whether or not to CC"
[12-Feb-22 03:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
But that interpretation works out if they don't
[12-Feb-22 03:40 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if you're still holding off intentionally you can post now
[12-Feb-22 06:48 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
you gonna be back before EoD?
[12-Feb-22 06:54 PM] Arete#7872
I just got back from dinner
[12-Feb-22 06:54 PM] Arete#7872
What's up, what would be helpful
[12-Feb-22 06:54 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
wind probably dying barring changes
[12-Feb-22 06:55 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
MR secondary wagon, I'm not in a position to push that at all
[12-Feb-22 06:55 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Fire is decently likely to vig MR/LBW/us but *probably* not HH and so the HH lynch seems ideal lol
[12-Feb-22 06:55 PM] Arete#7872
got it
[12-Feb-22 06:56 PM] Arete#7872
should I be actively pushing that or not pushing that so as to avoid sketching people out
[12-Feb-22 07:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
🤷♂️
[12-Feb-22 07:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I thought your posts while you were at dinner were p good
[12-Feb-22 07:02 PM] Arete#7872
yay
[12-Feb-22 07:14 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
don't say anything about the vc you weren't here for
[12-Feb-22 07:14 PM] Arete#7872
oh
[12-Feb-22 07:14 PM] Arete#7872
uh
[12-Feb-22 07:14 PM] Arete#7872
too late
[12-Feb-22 07:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
it's fine
[12-Feb-22 07:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
nobody will ask but if they do I complained offhand that VC takes forever and then is wrong
[12-Feb-22 07:15 PM] Arete#7872
if anyone asks I'll say that I scrolled up to check it when I got back and noticed it was wrong
[12-Feb-22 07:15 PM] Arete#7872
which is true
[12-Feb-22 07:15 PM] Arete#7872
or that
[12-Feb-22 07:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that
[12-Feb-22 07:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
my response alludes to it
[12-Feb-22 07:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-1-10-10/1161/2708?u=teamslightlypolish
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Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 1 (10/10)
actually it may be correct, apparently you need to ping the host when you vote and some people didn’t
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[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
this one
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
fuckin
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
leafia
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] Arete#7872
yeah but Leafia had pinged the host for her vote change
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
gdi
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] Arete#7872
I checked
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] Arete#7872
hahahaha
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
god fuckin
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] Arete#7872
I don't want to be mean but like
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] Arete#7872
it's like she took posts from a 'how to spot W/W interactions' guide
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
wait no they can't push HH
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but yeah lmao
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] Arete#7872
that were examples of w/w interactions
[12-Feb-22 07:16 PM] Arete#7872
and inserted our name
[12-Feb-22 08:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
okay so
[12-Feb-22 08:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
we got from
[12-Feb-22 08:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-1-10-10/1161/195?u=orangeandblack5
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Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 1 (10/10)
@LeafiabutWorse be honest are you mafia with arete
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[12-Feb-22 08:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
to a mislynch
[12-Feb-22 08:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and a probably outed vig
[12-Feb-22 08:05 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
not awful even if it's rough going
[12-Feb-22 08:05 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
then again so was S8G8
[12-Feb-22 10:10 PM] Arete#7872
Is there any "work" it would be helpful to "do" overnight to post in the morning
[12-Feb-22 10:10 PM] Arete#7872
or nah
[12-Feb-22 10:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ye
[12-Feb-22 10:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
even though you've done it before it may be best to have a wall written up in case LBW gets vigged turning on them
[12-Feb-22 10:11 PM] Arete#7872
it's not "turning on them"! I'm already scumreading them!
[12-Feb-22 10:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I mean our slot
[12-Feb-22 10:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
collectively
[12-Feb-22 10:13 PM] Arete#7872
but yes sure I can do that
[12-Feb-22 10:14 PM] Arete#7872
although I will note that kat is familiar with that trick
[12-Feb-22 10:14 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ye but I don't think we need to full tank them
[12-Feb-22 10:14 PM] Arete#7872
since she was in the game, and all
[12-Feb-22 10:14 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that's kinda obvious
[12-Feb-22 10:14 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I can just walk back my position and let you lead
[12-Feb-22 10:15 PM] Arete#7872
in that case shouldn't you be writing the wall
[12-Feb-22 10:15 PM] Arete#7872
or should I write a wall that's trying to sound like you
[12-Feb-22 10:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I think you're more likely to wall
[12-Feb-22 10:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but that doesn't mean I can't have input?
[12-Feb-22 10:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
like it should be a joint thing
[12-Feb-22 10:16 PM] Arete#7872
fair enough
[13-Feb-22 04:56 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
so
[13-Feb-22 04:56 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
you around and do we wanna do that or are we not
[13-Feb-22 04:56 PM] Arete#7872
around-ish
[13-Feb-22 04:57 PM] Arete#7872
I kinda think we're going to get shot 😛
[13-Feb-22 04:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
inclined to agree lmao
[13-Feb-22 04:57 PM] Arete#7872
but obviously it makes sense to play as if we won't
[13-Feb-22 04:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I suppose the main question is "do we have any particular conclusions we'd like to push in worlds where LBW dies or some other town dies"
[13-Feb-22 04:57 PM] Arete#7872
but I'm not sure that dropping a wall at SoD burying LBW's corpse actually helps us?
since we have both, in fact, done that before
and it's not like I wasn't pushing them yesterday
[13-Feb-22 04:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
yeah idt it would ever be burying
[13-Feb-22 04:58 PM] Arete#7872
~~but this might be motivated reasoning because I don't really want to go write a wall~~
[13-Feb-22 04:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
in that case we can just not lmao
[13-Feb-22 04:58 PM] Arete#7872
fair enough
[13-Feb-22 04:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I think "we thought either EG would flip scum or we'd get shot" is decent enough reasoning for why we've done nothing
[13-Feb-22 05:01 PM] Arete#7872
o7
[13-Feb-22 08:06 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
maybe 1 cohost wasn't enough cohosts 😛
[13-Feb-22 08:09 PM] Arete#7872
jsyk if literally any villager hits L-1 and we're not already voting them I'm hammering
[13-Feb-22 08:09 PM] Arete#7872
yes I realize that's outing
[13-Feb-22 08:09 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
do we actually think we're distanced enough from LBW for that to work
[13-Feb-22 08:10 PM] Arete#7872
depends on who we kill
[13-Feb-22 08:10 PM] Arete#7872
but I think if we kill the people who think we're partnered with LBW it could work?
[13-Feb-22 08:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
possibly lol
[13-Feb-22 08:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
two of them did just die
[13-Feb-22 08:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
2wolves is on that train
[13-Feb-22 08:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and also the next best kill anyways
[13-Feb-22 08:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
so how do we enter here
[13-Feb-22 08:11 PM] Arete#7872
no idea
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] Arete#7872
we have two votes on us already :wowee:
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
yeah but chloe's workable
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] Arete#7872
who do we even push here lol
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and if not FPSers seems more likely to side with us over them atm
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] Arete#7872
we've got
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
it's not great yeah
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] Arete#7872
- the people who are known to be super polarized
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
which is why cat is on us
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] Arete#7872
- literally copypasted notes
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] Arete#7872
- cat
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] Arete#7872
- our partner
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] Arete#7872
- Kiiruma, who everyone is townreading
[13-Feb-22 08:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
cat is starting to look like an appealing option
[13-Feb-22 08:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also to be fair if you're willing to out ourselves via a hammer
[13-Feb-22 08:13 PM] Arete#7872
and Dum-who-is-obvious-town
[13-Feb-22 08:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
you should ALSO be willing to out ourselves via a hardpush
[13-Feb-22 08:13 PM] Arete#7872
I am but I'm worried that a hardpush backfires
and just results in us getting flipped first
[13-Feb-22 08:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Let me rephrase
[13-Feb-22 08:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
*any* push that outs us if it flips green
[13-Feb-22 08:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
is still good
[13-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
are you saying 'bus LBW'
[13-Feb-22 08:14 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
so long as it does flip
[13-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
😹
[13-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
oh
[13-Feb-22 08:14 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> if it flips green
[13-Feb-22 08:14 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
read
[13-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
see the 'so long as it does flip' part is important
[13-Feb-22 08:14 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ye
[13-Feb-22 08:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
idrc is not a slouch of a slot and may be worth having at least me press
TBAAB is probably not a good slot to turn on
cat is hard af to push but is a potentially winnable fight
and 2wolves was like wind's top push and we can always just say we trust her read there more than my single PKR post read now that she's conf
[13-Feb-22 08:17 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
anyways it may be worth considering that a strong part of our wincon today may be based on keeping up a good tone and solid appearances
[13-Feb-22 08:17 PM] Arete#7872
> good tone
welp :wowee:
[13-Feb-22 08:17 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
simply because I think BB and FPSers are going to be swingable
[13-Feb-22 08:17 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if they buy our tone and approach
[13-Feb-22 08:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
*also*
[13-Feb-22 08:20 PM] Arete#7872
okay so
[13-Feb-22 08:20 PM] Arete#7872
how bad is this opener
[13-Feb-22 08:21 PM] Arete#7872
hi
I'm going to be totally honest, I thought Litten was vigging us so I decided to get caught up on my actual real life internship rather than backreading the game or writing a wallpost or whatever
my current have-not-backread thoughts are that some of cat's comments at EoD yesterday kind of felt like they knew that Wind was going to flip V and were trying to set us up to look bad off of it (more the second thing than the first thing, they weren't really trying to hide the first thing)
and that their opener today is relying on Chloe being like 'oh I'm such a bad polarized wolf please townread me' which hasn't been true in months, maybe years
\-Arete
[13-Feb-22 08:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
everyone involved in the MR push has officially forfeited their right to talk shit about ICTM
[13-Feb-22 08:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'd throw in an "orange did not agree" after the litten vig thing, maybe?
[13-Feb-22 08:21 PM] Arete#7872
well then we have to explain why you didn't do anything overnight
[13-Feb-22 08:22 PM] Arete#7872
unless you were also busy
[13-Feb-22 08:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
maybe even "orange did not agree, he thought EG was getting vigged" if we wanna be spicy
[13-Feb-22 08:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I have been working on code for the site all morning and thinking EG could get vigged is a reasonable explanation for doing no work in the game
[13-Feb-22 08:22 PM] Arete#7872
ok I'm just saying you were busy (which is true)
[13-Feb-22 08:22 PM] Arete#7872
how does this look
[13-Feb-22 08:23 PM] Arete#7872
hi
I'm going to be totally honest, I thought Litten was vigging us so I decided to get caught up on my actual real life internship rather than backreading the game or writing a wallpost or whatever (orange was like 'no Arete the vig is shooting EG trust' (this is a paraphrase) but he was also busy)
my current have-not-backread thoughts are that some of cat's comments at EoD yesterday kind of felt like they knew that Wind was going to flip V and were trying to set us up to look bad off of it (more the second thing than the first thing, they weren't really trying to hide the first thing)
and that their opener today is relying on Chloe being like 'oh I'm such a bad polarized wolf please townread me' which hasn't been true in months, maybe years
\-Arete
[13-Feb-22 08:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
should you specify kat instead of cat
[13-Feb-22 08:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also don't say the "he was also busy" part
[13-Feb-22 08:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
at all
[13-Feb-22 08:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
making excuses for me is dumb
[13-Feb-22 08:24 PM] Arete#7872
okay
[13-Feb-22 08:24 PM] Arete#7872
I think cat is better than cat because some of the posts might have been Chloe
[13-Feb-22 08:24 PM] Arete#7872
idr for sure
[13-Feb-22 08:24 PM] Arete#7872
er
[13-Feb-22 08:24 PM] Arete#7872
cat is better than kat
[13-Feb-22 08:24 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> I'm going to be totally honest, I thought Litten was vigging us (and orange was still hoping EG would be shot) so I decided to get caught up on my actual real life internship rather than backreading the game
[13-Feb-22 08:24 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also cat was not townreading wind
[13-Feb-22 08:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
chloe was definitely pushing wind
[13-Feb-22 08:25 PM] Arete#7872
kat was
[13-Feb-22 08:25 PM] Arete#7872
townreading Wind I mean
[13-Feb-22 08:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
right
[13-Feb-22 08:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
do you see why I think saying "kat" is more direct
[13-Feb-22 08:25 PM] Arete#7872
I'm mostly referring to the comments where they were like 'if this flips town shoot TSP'
[13-Feb-22 08:25 PM] Arete#7872
oh
[13-Feb-22 08:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that was all kat who didn't take vote control while chloe had the vote and buried wind
[13-Feb-22 08:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
which is a compelling enough point and the more direct you are with pointing out that dichotomy in an efficient manner the better
[13-Feb-22 08:26 PM] Arete#7872
hi
I'm going to be totally honest, I thought Litten was vigging us (...and orange was still hoping EG would be shot) so I decided to get caught up on my actual real life internship rather than backreading the game or writing a wallpost or whatever
my current have-not-backread thoughts are that some of kat's comments at EoD yesterday kind of felt like they knew that Wind was going to flip V and were trying to set us up to look bad off of it (more the second thing than the first thing, kat wasn't really trying to hide the first thing)
and that their opener today is relying on Chloe being like 'oh I'm such a bad polarized wolf please townread me' which hasn't been true in months, maybe years
\-Arete
[13-Feb-22 08:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also why say "set us up to look bad" instead of "set us up to get vigged"
[13-Feb-22 08:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if your point is you thought we'd be vigged
[13-Feb-22 08:26 PM] Arete#7872
sure
[13-Feb-22 08:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
back that up!
[13-Feb-22 08:27 PM] Arete#7872
hi
I'm going to be totally honest, I thought Litten was vigging us (...and orange was still hoping EG would be vigged) so I decided to get caught up on my actual real life internship rather than backreading the game or writing a wallpost or whatever
my current have-not-backread thoughts are that some of kat's comments at EoD yesterday kind of felt like they knew that Wind was going to flip V and were trying to set us up to get misvigged off of it (more the second thing than the first thing, kat wasn't really trying to hide the first thing)
and that their opener today is relying on Chloe being like 'oh I'm such a bad polarized wolf please townread me' which hasn't been true in months, maybe years
\-Arete
[13-Feb-22 08:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also is their opener today relying on that
[13-Feb-22 08:27 PM] Arete#7872
also I changed to 'hoping EG would be vigged'
[13-Feb-22 08:27 PM] Arete#7872
yes
[13-Feb-22 08:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I didn't get that feel but
[13-Feb-22 08:27 PM] Arete#7872
or
[13-Feb-22 08:27 PM] Arete#7872
she said it once
[13-Feb-22 08:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
why do you have the 'hi' there
[13-Feb-22 08:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
*I* would cut that personally but if you think that's how you normally talk then sure I guess
[13-Feb-22 08:28 PM] Arete#7872
I think it's how I normally talk
admittedly it might be parsed as not-that
[13-Feb-22 08:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also you should probably follow that post up
[13-Feb-22 08:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
relatively quickly
[13-Feb-22 08:29 PM] Arete#7872
with what
[13-Feb-22 08:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
with some kind of forward momentum
[13-Feb-22 08:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
doesn't need to be a full push on somebody but a "I'm going to give X more attention right now" is enough
[13-Feb-22 08:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
something to show investment in the day
[13-Feb-22 08:29 PM] Arete#7872
ok but I'm already giving cat more attention
[13-Feb-22 08:29 PM] Arete#7872
how do you feel about me shading Leafia
[13-Feb-22 08:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
alright, but make that explicit
[13-Feb-22 08:30 PM] Arete#7872
are we still trying to Not
[13-Feb-22 08:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
you can shade leafia if you want I'm still probably just gonna say I think she's town unless things make that seem impossible
[13-Feb-22 08:30 PM] Arete#7872
or I can ask kat some mildly baity questions
[13-Feb-22 08:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
define mildly baity
[13-Feb-22 08:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
because the last thing we need is people piling on us for anything lol
[13-Feb-22 08:31 PM] Arete#7872
'if you thought Wind was town then why did you vote her'
[13-Feb-22 08:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
okay but chloe did that
[13-Feb-22 08:31 PM] Arete#7872
'if you thought Wind was town why didn't you override Chloe'
[13-Feb-22 08:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and I think that pointing out that the slot really went for having their cake and eating it too is worth more than trying to shade kat
[13-Feb-22 08:31 PM] Arete#7872
okay like
[13-Feb-22 08:32 PM] Arete#7872
what specifically do you want me to say 😹
[13-Feb-22 08:32 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that second thing is definitely closer
[13-Feb-22 08:32 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but winning over BB's vote is literally probably wincon and so focusing on the macro optics is going to be worth more than specifically fighting with either head
[13-Feb-22 08:32 PM] Arete#7872
ok
[13-Feb-22 08:32 PM] Arete#7872
can you show up at some point and bitch about the vig shooting TL
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
yes
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
obv
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
lmao
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] Arete#7872
right now we're getting a lot of 'we were too wrong' levelled at us but cat has actually been wronger
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ye
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] Arete#7872
while being similarly good villagers
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ik
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
so you shouldn't bring that up
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] Arete#7872
but if I just say that it'll sound super wolfy
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
MR was my thing
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
not yours
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] Arete#7872
which is why I want you to
[13-Feb-22 08:33 PM] Arete#7872
yeah
[13-Feb-22 08:34 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
okay so
[13-Feb-22 08:34 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
before you post
[13-Feb-22 08:34 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
consider
[13-Feb-22 08:34 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
cat is attempting to draw battle lines here in a 1v1 and it may be worth focusing on that in your first post
[13-Feb-22 08:34 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
like
[13-Feb-22 08:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> and that their opener today is relying on Chloe being like 'oh I'm such a bad polarized wolf please townread me' which hasn't been true in months, maybe years
>
> and then followed up by them telling us we'll need to "obvtown our asses off" while simultaneously drawing battle lines and setting everybody up for a conflict with us instead of paying mind to literally any other slot
[13-Feb-22 08:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
obv reword that and it could probably just be one paragraph but
[13-Feb-22 08:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
might be worth doing
[13-Feb-22 08:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
up to you
[13-Feb-22 08:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that one's not an order by any means
[13-Feb-22 08:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
just a thought
[13-Feb-22 08:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-2-7-10/1161/3141?u=teamslightlypolish
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Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 2 (7/10)
yes i just want them to feel extra pressured to obvtown themselves today 😹 @TeamSlightlyPolish get outtowned by a buncha retired players lmao
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[13-Feb-22 08:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
okay actually maybe don't say that one
[13-Feb-22 08:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
in the opener
[13-Feb-22 08:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
lmao
[13-Feb-22 08:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I can probably take that one even
[13-Feb-22 08:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
since I did in G10
[13-Feb-22 08:36 PM] Arete#7872
ok you can take that line
[13-Feb-22 08:37 PM] Arete#7872
alright
[13-Feb-22 08:37 PM] Arete#7872
I'm going in
[13-Feb-22 08:38 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
lol immediately the thing I asked
[13-Feb-22 08:38 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
hope you're confident in your answer
[13-Feb-22 08:39 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also
[13-Feb-22 08:39 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
FPSers has hinted that they think cat has been pocketing us
[13-Feb-22 08:39 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Feel free to use that same line for free "oh yeah we thought that too" cred from FPSers
[13-Feb-22 08:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also kat said that post was a joke
And you should not let anybody else point that out
[13-Feb-22 08:43 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Just "guess I misattributed a kat joke to chloe"
[13-Feb-22 08:43 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Maybe throw in a joycat
[13-Feb-22 08:43 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
NEVER MIND
[13-Feb-22 08:43 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
LOL
[13-Feb-22 08:43 PM] Arete#7872
too late 😹
[13-Feb-22 08:44 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
No?
[13-Feb-22 08:44 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
It isn't?
[13-Feb-22 08:44 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
You didn't post
[13-Feb-22 08:44 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
So you apparently good lolkatze
[13-Feb-22 08:44 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Anyways
[13-Feb-22 08:44 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
HH flipped town, who cat was pushing
[13-Feb-22 08:45 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
MR flipped town, who cat was pushing
[13-Feb-22 08:45 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
EG flipped town, who cat was pushing
[13-Feb-22 08:45 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
And *we're* town, who cat is now pushing and was calling for a vig on yday
[13-Feb-22 08:45 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Feel free to point out it sure looks like they were trying to set up for a vig on us and an easy lynch on MR
[13-Feb-22 08:46 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Will help my case that us pushing MR is towny
[13-Feb-22 08:46 PM] Arete#7872
you mean defending MR?
[13-Feb-22 08:46 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Ye whatever doing two things at once you get the point
[13-Feb-22 08:48 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
If anybody calls you on it (because shielding is too strong a word) just say I forbade you from voting MR
[13-Feb-22 08:49 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
At least unless it was last-minute self-pres
[13-Feb-22 08:49 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
And so you thought it was a full shield
[13-Feb-22 08:49 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Don't comment on it if nobody else does
[13-Feb-22 08:50 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also remember that you think Dum is townier than he is
[13-Feb-22 08:50 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
And that's true of probably everyone
[13-Feb-22 08:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-2-7-10/1161/3167?u=teamslightlypolish
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https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-2-7-10/1161/3167?u=teamslightlypolish
Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 2 (7/10)
9:40 PM 9:49 PM can you explain why idrc goes from near the bottom to your literal highest nonclaimed PR read, and myself and kiiruma go down a lot in the span of 9 minutes?
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/l6i5qaqPEDVjdVTeT4TjAMhviXUUcS5M0fCsXsUiu4Q/https/www.fortressoflies.com/uploads/db3643/original/1X/2c5ded3d00ed18c488ad462725e0b176cb09e4e6.png
[13-Feb-22 08:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
this is not even reading
[13-Feb-22 08:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
especially given I said that EG is still a wolf in my heart
[13-Feb-22 08:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and first thing today you said I was hoping EG would get shot
[13-Feb-22 08:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also I'm like
[13-Feb-22 08:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
the only person that ever specifically states "tiers unsorted"
[13-Feb-22 08:58 PM] Arete#7872
the first one is obviously posted by you imo???
[13-Feb-22 08:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that's as orangeandblack5 a readslist as they come
[13-Feb-22 08:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
AND
[13-Feb-22 08:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
THE REPLIES
[13-Feb-22 08:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-2-7-10/1161/2959?u=teamslightlypolish
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https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-2-7-10/1161/2959?u=teamslightlypolish
Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 2 (7/10)
here you can see which one of us is mostly reading Dum and which one of us cares more about eevee
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/l6i5qaqPEDVjdVTeT4TjAMhviXUUcS5M0fCsXsUiu4Q/https/www.fortressoflies.com/uploads/db3643/original/1X/2c5ded3d00ed18c488ad462725e0b176cb09e4e6.png
[13-Feb-22 08:59 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
literally baseless loaded question
[13-Feb-22 08:59 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-2-7-10/1161/3169?u=teamslightlypolish
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https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-2-7-10/1161/3169?u=teamslightlypolish
Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 2 (7/10)
and this influenced your read on our slot exactly zero apparently for what reason?
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/l6i5qaqPEDVjdVTeT4TjAMhviXUUcS5M0fCsXsUiu4Q/https/www.fortressoflies.com/uploads/db3643/original/1X/2c5ded3d00ed18c488ad462725e0b176cb09e4e6.png
[13-Feb-22 08:59 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
another me quote and one that KAT KNOWS WAS ME
[13-Feb-22 08:59 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
although I should say that not you
[13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but
[13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
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[13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'm so confused what the points of these questions are
[13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also "yes" is a valid response to that last kat question
[13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
fuckin
[13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
townreads wind but lets her die
[13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
then asks us that
[13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
just make a sarcastic comment about it
[13-Feb-22 09:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
😛
[13-Feb-22 09:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
or quote kat
[13-Feb-22 09:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
probably not anything good enough
[13-Feb-22 09:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
whatever just don't be overly aggro about it
[13-Feb-22 09:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that's generally when your tone falls through the worst
[13-Feb-22 09:01 PM] Arete#7872
uhhh
[13-Feb-22 09:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and may well be what kat is trying to get here
[13-Feb-22 09:01 PM] Arete#7872
hopefully my answer is okay 😹
[13-Feb-22 09:02 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
yeah kat is asking loaded questions on purpose here
[13-Feb-22 09:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
esp given we couldn't have known MR would flip
[13-Feb-22 09:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and I was hoping EG would flip red
[13-Feb-22 09:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
you don't need to call him on it
[13-Feb-22 09:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
just
[13-Feb-22 09:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also don't *fall* for it
[13-Feb-22 09:03 PM] Arete#7872
opinions on how to respond to her latest question
my current instinct is 'we basically didn't talk overnight'
[13-Feb-22 09:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
giving straight-laced answers is probably best now that you've started with that
[13-Feb-22 09:03 PM] Arete#7872
is that ok
[13-Feb-22 09:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I mean you basically said as much in your opener
[13-Feb-22 09:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also
[13-Feb-22 09:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also
[13-Feb-22 09:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
@Arete
[13-Feb-22 09:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
kat still has those lists backwards
[13-Feb-22 09:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also
[13-Feb-22 09:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
is ignoring my "tiers unsorted"
[13-Feb-22 09:05 PM] Arete#7872
ye I just noticed
[13-Feb-22 09:05 PM] Arete#7872
I think town!Arete doesn't care that they're ignoring your 'tiers unsorted'
but plausibly I should have overridden town!Arete there? idk
[13-Feb-22 09:06 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I can probably do that
[13-Feb-22 09:06 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
done with the other stuff I had going on, gonna take a shower and then I'll hop in
[13-Feb-22 09:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also we've definitely done that and in fact I think we mostly did that literally without lying?
[13-Feb-22 09:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
is posting old games' hydra chats against the rules
[13-Feb-22 09:09 PM] Arete#7872
idk
[13-Feb-22 09:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
so the right answer here
[13-Feb-22 09:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
is we did talk about some things
[13-Feb-22 09:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but since neither of us backread stuff and we both expected the flips would invalidate any work we did do
[13-Feb-22 09:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
we didn't spend much time hashing out details
[13-Feb-22 09:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
or that
[13-Feb-22 09:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
do you just have notifications turned off lol
[13-Feb-22 09:12 PM] Arete#7872
I have them turned on I just didn't see your messages because I was double-checking whether we'd actually talked after the Cheap misexe
[13-Feb-22 09:12 PM] Arete#7872
(we did but not a lot)
[13-Feb-22 09:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
https://discord.com/channels/@me/616822373970345984/927099238792429608
[13-Feb-22 09:13 PM] Arete#7872
I guess we in fact didn't talk after S&B
[13-Feb-22 09:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ye
[13-Feb-22 09:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
lmao
[13-Feb-22 09:13 PM] Arete#7872
or actually we did
[13-Feb-22 09:13 PM] Arete#7872
it just starts earlier
[13-Feb-22 09:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
oh
[13-Feb-22 09:15 PM] Arete#7872
I mean if we're allowed to post logs we can always post fake logs
[13-Feb-22 09:15 PM] Arete#7872
😹
[13-Feb-22 09:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
yeah
[13-Feb-22 09:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ofc
[13-Feb-22 09:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I can shop something if needed
[13-Feb-22 09:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but I'm not gonna ask that specifically
[13-Feb-22 09:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
yeah and we talked literally more about FoLrus over the G1 night heading into MyLo
[13-Feb-22 09:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
than we did about the game
[13-Feb-22 09:19 PM] Arete#7872
lol
[13-Feb-22 09:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
https://discord.com/channels/@me/616822373970345984/908184510909276254
[13-Feb-22 09:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and that was the 48 hour night too
[13-Feb-22 09:21 PM] Arete#7872
Marshal says that if it's past hydra chats between us it's okay
[13-Feb-22 09:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
what resolution is your monitor
[13-Feb-22 09:21 PM] Arete#7872
uhhh
[13-Feb-22 09:21 PM] Arete#7872
how do I check
[13-Feb-22 09:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ffs
[13-Feb-22 09:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
not knowing that offhand lol
[13-Feb-22 09:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
anyways
[13-Feb-22 09:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
settings
[13-Feb-22 09:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
system
[13-Feb-22 09:22 PM] Arete#7872
probably some number that will make you go 'how the fuck do you survive'
[13-Feb-22 09:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
display
[13-Feb-22 09:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
nah it's probably 1080p
[13-Feb-22 09:23 PM] Arete#7872
where it says 'display resolution' is that what you want to know about or is that something else
[13-Feb-22 09:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that's it
[13-Feb-22 09:23 PM] Arete#7872
1366x768
[13-Feb-22 09:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
good god
[13-Feb-22 09:23 PM] Arete#7872
or I can make it smaller
[13-Feb-22 09:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
no
[13-Feb-22 09:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
how the fuck do you survive
[13-Feb-22 09:23 PM] Arete#7872
1366 is a bigger number than 1080 so I don't see what the problem is?
[13-Feb-22 09:24 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
oh my god
[13-Feb-22 09:24 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I need you to send me a screenshot of this chat
any screenshot
[13-Feb-22 09:24 PM] Arete#7872
well I mean if it were any better probably the computer wouldn't be able to run without crashing
[13-Feb-22 09:25 PM] Arete#7872
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[13-Feb-22 09:25 PM] Arete#7872
see look it's totally legible
[13-Feb-22 09:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
no
[13-Feb-22 09:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
your full screen
[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
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[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
uh wait
[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
hang on
[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
wtf is the white
[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
let me try again
[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
I forgot to crop the screenshot :wowee:
[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
please maximize discord
[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
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[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
I could also zoom out
[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
how
[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
does discord have zoom
[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
by pressing ctrl and minus
[13-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
yes
[13-Feb-22 09:27 PM] Arete#7872
ctrl-plus and ctrl-minus
[13-Feb-22 09:27 PM] Arete#7872
on Windows
[13-Feb-22 09:27 PM] Arete#7872
you use Windows right
[13-Feb-22 09:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I had no idea
[13-Feb-22 09:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ye
[13-Feb-22 09:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
never needed it
[13-Feb-22 09:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
anyways
[13-Feb-22 09:27 PM] Arete#7872
ok update we aren't allowed to photoshop our chat
[13-Feb-22 09:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that's stupid af
[13-Feb-22 09:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and unprovable
[13-Feb-22 09:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also he said "made up posts"
[13-Feb-22 09:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
which I'm not doing
[13-Feb-22 09:28 PM] Arete#7872
ok but I'm not going to break the rules just because we wouldn't get caught
[13-Feb-22 09:28 PM] Arete#7872
lol
[13-Feb-22 09:28 PM] Arete#7872
we don't even need to edit anything
[13-Feb-22 09:28 PM] Arete#7872
we can just post the actual screenshot of our chat after Cheap died
[13-Feb-22 09:28 PM] Arete#7872
where we barely talked
[13-Feb-22 09:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
okay but does that even fit on one screenshot at this res
[13-Feb-22 09:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
lmao
[13-Feb-22 09:29 PM] Arete#7872
I mean no but we can stitch it together?
[13-Feb-22 09:29 PM] Arete#7872
this is a solvable problem!
[13-Feb-22 09:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
do you know how to do that
[13-Feb-22 09:29 PM] Arete#7872
like I feel like that's easier than changing your resolution so that you can more convincingly make a screenshot look like it came from me
[13-Feb-22 09:29 PM] Arete#7872
yes but the method I use might be janky
[13-Feb-22 09:30 PM] Arete#7872
why does 1080p refer to the short side??
[13-Feb-22 09:30 PM] Arete#7872
that's unintuitive
[13-Feb-22 09:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
it's vertical
[13-Feb-22 09:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
anyways I have screens of the entire 48hr night
[13-Feb-22 09:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
can snag some of the cheap kill if you haven't yet
[13-Feb-22 09:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
or the S&B one
[13-Feb-22 09:37 PM] Arete#7872
I think the Cheap kill is better
since the S&B one we did actually talk
and even if we creatively take screenshots, we might end up contradicting something we said during G10
[13-Feb-22 09:38 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
plus it was the last night we were alive in both games
[13-Feb-22 09:38 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'll look and see
[13-Feb-22 09:55 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
okay so
[13-Feb-22 09:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Can I get you to write a post for me that says "I asked the hosts if it was okay to send old screenshots and they said yes - here's the entirety of our chat on the night after CT was lynched in G10 and the 48-hour night going into MyLo in G1"
and then I'll insert the images
and then I need "I can get the night after S&B were lynched if you want as well, there's a bit more than the other two but still not a ton and it already took me long enough to get all this"
[13-Feb-22 09:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
@Arete
[13-Feb-22 09:58 PM] Arete#7872
I'm supposed to rephrase that to sound like me right
[13-Feb-22 09:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
yes
[13-Feb-22 09:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
unless
[13-Feb-22 09:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
re-read kat's latest posts
[13-Feb-22 09:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and let me know if you think it's even worth posting
[13-Feb-22 09:59 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
because I'm kinda angling towards "that seems more desperate than we need to be" but
[13-Feb-22 09:59 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
you tell me if kat would find it towny or not lol
[13-Feb-22 10:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
either way I have that on the backburner
[13-Feb-22 10:00 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
so I'd still like that post, I guess
[13-Feb-22 10:00 PM] Arete#7872
imo I lean towards posting it
[13-Feb-22 10:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I guess I'm mostly concerned about people correctly surmising that it's not actually clearing
[13-Feb-22 10:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and then coming down on us for it
[13-Feb-22 10:01 PM] Arete#7872
it's not clearing it just discredits kat's point against us
[13-Feb-22 10:01 PM] Arete#7872
anyways I wrote your post
[13-Feb-22 10:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
perhaps that's mitigated through just being like "we don't want anybody to read us town specifically off of this because it's from WAY before rand but"
[13-Feb-22 10:01 PM] Arete#7872
feel free to insert images
[13-Feb-22 10:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
those strings both have zero redactions
[13-Feb-22 10:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
so if anybody asks about them you can send pictures freely
[13-Feb-22 10:08 PM] Arete#7872
ok
[13-Feb-22 10:09 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
good to post?
[13-Feb-22 10:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
yes/no?
[13-Feb-22 10:10 PM] Arete#7872
ye
[13-Feb-22 10:10 PM] Arete#7872
was just looking through it
[13-Feb-22 10:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
we showed up with receipts motherfucker 😎
[13-Feb-22 10:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if anybody asks we can pretty safely clarify that we talked about
- wishing wind had acted less crazy
- I probably should have made more of an effort to read wazza in particular, oops
- it did kinda look like kat was setting us up to be vigged even if I still hope EG gets vigged
- I still think the melds I had with Chloe felt real
- FPSers keeping their vote on us was *awful* even if most of the rest of their slot looks good? worth re-evaluating
- despite wind's ask we still think 2wolves is probably threadspewed town (implicitly unless they get to like LyLo)
- BB prolly town
- I need more from eevee
We DO NOT need to mention all of these but you can throw around a few of them if anybody asks for specifics
[13-Feb-22 10:17 PM] Arete#7872
if I started bitching about Wind ATEing rather than trying to solve would you have been like 'be more fair to her' or like 'yeah I agree with you'
[13-Feb-22 10:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
well look at what we said about CT
[13-Feb-22 10:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
definitely more on the latter side by far
[13-Feb-22 10:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
maybe even include the bit about me wishing I'd paid more attention to Wazza because I have more experience with her by far and wind was going crazy yet I focused on her
[13-Feb-22 10:21 PM] Arete#7872
so far no one really seems to be questioning that but I'll keep it in mind if they do
[13-Feb-22 10:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
somebody will probably ask for specifics at some point
[13-Feb-22 10:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
best to have an agreed upon set of answers to draw from
[14-Feb-22 12:07 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Arete no
[14-Feb-22 12:07 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Don't send that
[14-Feb-22 12:07 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Remember what I said
[14-Feb-22 12:07 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Don't take bait, don't get aggro
[14-Feb-22 12:07 AM] Arete#7872
ok
[14-Feb-22 12:07 AM] Arete#7872
I won't!!
[14-Feb-22 12:08 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I've wanted to say that since aelin's first post but nothing good comes of it
[14-Feb-22 12:08 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
(Unless you have an argument for what good comes of it)
[14-Feb-22 12:08 AM] Arete#7872
sometimes people are like 'wow you have emotions you must be a villager'
although I think at this point everyone has figured out that that doesn't work on me
[14-Feb-22 12:09 AM] Arete#7872
anyways I haven't been getting aggro!! (but I backspaced that post)
[14-Feb-22 12:09 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Yeah no offense but your emotions are not that villagery
[14-Feb-22 12:09 AM] Arete#7872
why would that be offensive
[14-Feb-22 12:24 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Anyways
[14-Feb-22 12:24 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Leaving it there for the night
[14-Feb-22 12:25 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
not an *awful* footing and 48h is a long time but yeah I'm inclined to agree we should just hammer (and lock the thread) if we see an opportunity
[14-Feb-22 12:26 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
*especially* if we can play it off as an accident
[14-Feb-22 12:26 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
but even if we can't
[14-Feb-22 12:52 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
So
[14-Feb-22 12:52 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
idk what LBW's stance is on idrc/BB
[14-Feb-22 12:52 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
...do they have one?
[14-Feb-22 12:52 AM] Arete#7872
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14-Feb-22 12:52 AM] Arete#7872
I mostly want to check their list for 'not blatantly TMIing all the villagers' not for consistency with previous stances
[14-Feb-22 12:53 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I know
[14-Feb-22 12:53 AM] Arete#7872
not even in like, the sense of not townreading too many villagers
[14-Feb-22 12:53 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
I know
[14-Feb-22 12:53 AM] Arete#7872
but in the sense of not having a bunch of reads that are just like
'BB - they just feel like a villager, I don't see why they are getting pushed'
which she had a fair number of yesterday
[14-Feb-22 12:54 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
But still I just wanna get a feel for what it "should be" and I'm seeing something like
FPSers
BB
idrc
TSP
Cat
2wolves
[14-Feb-22 12:56 AM] Arete#7872
*nod nod*
[14-Feb-22 12:59 AM] Arete#7872
orrrrr she can just post it in the thread without checking it with us 🙂
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Nightmare
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Scenario
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Rand
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] Arete#7872
hey
arguably
it's not as bad as it could have been
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] Arete#7872
cat could have randed vig
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] Arete#7872
OR
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
No that'd be better
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] Arete#7872
PKR could have randed vig
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] Arete#7872
and then blasted LBW
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
We'd have lynched EG
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] Arete#7872
and then you
[14-Feb-22 01:01 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
also we'd have killed PKR
[14-Feb-22 01:04 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Anyways excuse me while I go favorite this image
[14-Feb-22 01:04 AM] orangeandblack5#4506 (pinned)
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[14-Feb-22 07:49 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also
[14-Feb-22 07:50 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
FPSers not sold on BB
[14-Feb-22 07:50 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Good reminder that slots we think are obvtown aren't necessarily
[14-Feb-22 01:17 PM] Arete#7872
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[14-Feb-22 01:17 PM] Arete#7872
(not here)
[14-Feb-22 01:17 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
What
[14-Feb-22 01:19 PM] Arete#7872
it's a meme about the mythological hydra, which I figured was topical since we are in a hydra game
[14-Feb-22 01:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Okay sure
[14-Feb-22 01:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
But also why
[14-Feb-22 01:20 PM] Arete#7872
I thought it was funny
[14-Feb-22 01:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Honestly I know this is hurting my own future chances to say this but
[14-Feb-22 01:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
If you ever see me in a game with Leafia and there's more than two scum that can officially be the one time you disregard my dislike of busing 😛
[14-Feb-22 01:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
This is better than FAM yes
[14-Feb-22 01:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
But YBW hits one out of the park and then Leafia comes back and I'm like "god why"
[14-Feb-22 04:38 PM] Arete#7872
hi
[14-Feb-22 04:38 PM] Arete#7872
am online
[14-Feb-22 06:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
hi
[14-Feb-22 06:18 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I've been planning to point this out
[14-Feb-22 06:18 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but if it makes more sense for you to say
[14-Feb-22 06:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
feel free to point out that I was vetoing a MR vote *even as* we were in us/MR/HH wagons
[14-Feb-22 06:19 PM] Arete#7872
I'll point it out if it makes sense in the conversation otherwise you can do it
[14-Feb-22 06:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
sounds good
[14-Feb-22 06:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> (also, again, i was pretty unaware at how much heat dispersed from LBW)
this feels provably false but obviously he believes it lmao
[14-Feb-22 06:27 PM] Arete#7872
idk if calling that out is a good idea
doesn't look villagery and probably won't convince anyone
[14-Feb-22 06:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
inclined to agree but also wtfze
[14-Feb-22 06:28 PM] Arete#7872
do you think that if you tried you can convincingly replicate village-frustration-about-not-being-listened-to-on-Melody-and-then-dismissed or do you think it'll come off as wolfy
[14-Feb-22 06:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I don't think I was pushing hard enough there to make that an actual stance I would have in a way that I think is provable
[14-Feb-22 06:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
However I don't think that's the right tack to take in the first place
[14-Feb-22 06:29 PM] Arete#7872
also opinions on:
- trying to make cat our main push for today
and, if yes
- writing a giant wallpost on why cat is a wolf
[14-Feb-22 06:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
My plan regarding MR if I need to self-towncase is to point out a few of the numerous times in past scum games I have relentlessly turned on townies I should have known better about when it helped save myself or a partner (H20G1 and FAM both give numerous examples of this) and then point out that I literally had free reign to defer to your read on MR if I wanted to for self-pres
[14-Feb-22 06:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ie, I'm more than happy to turn on slots like Emilia and Appel if it puts my life at risk
[14-Feb-22 06:32 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
as for cat I mean I think my issue with setting up two 1v1's is that *if we lose*, __regardless__ of which of us actually loses, it's blatantly obvious who was on the right and wrong side of history in each fight imo
[14-Feb-22 06:33 PM] Arete#7872
*nod*
[14-Feb-22 06:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
it also splits our voting power if held until EoD
[14-Feb-22 06:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
which is mega mega no bueno
[14-Feb-22 06:34 PM] Arete#7872
fairfair
[14-Feb-22 06:34 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also consider how that stacks up
[14-Feb-22 06:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
it'll be us/LBW/Aelin vs Brad/BB/cat/2wolves
[14-Feb-22 06:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
meaning we'd need both eevee to side with us *and* Aelin to control FPSer's vote *and* side with us
[14-Feb-22 06:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
yes that's workable over the course of the day but let's be real, cat's not self-voting, 2wolves isn't listening to us ever, and eevee is way more likely to be right than not just as a matter of course fme
[14-Feb-22 06:37 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
so considering the reward of "lynch cat" also takes away arguably our best card for a hypothetical F5 it just seems not super worth it for the insane risk?
[14-Feb-22 06:37 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if every other option is *worse* than sure but I'm not seeing the payoff for managing to do it
[14-Feb-22 06:37 PM] Arete#7872
*nod nod nod*
[14-Feb-22 06:37 PM] Arete#7872
idk
[14-Feb-22 06:37 PM] Arete#7872
kinda feel like we need a villager to go over today
[14-Feb-22 06:38 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
agreed and I think it's worth staking the game on it
[14-Feb-22 06:38 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
mostly because no shot leafiaslot carries
[14-Feb-22 06:39 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I think we have a *nonzero* chance of winning if she goes over but it doesn't look good and I think F5 is more winnable
[14-Feb-22 06:39 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but also
[14-Feb-22 06:39 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
god I don't want to have to try and carry leafia again
[14-Feb-22 06:40 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
never in my life have I found less cooperative baggage
[14-Feb-22 06:40 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but yeah my approach if I had to enter the thread rn would indeed include trying to shill LBW as town
[14-Feb-22 06:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and that is in fact part of why I'm holding off and seeing where things go
[14-Feb-22 06:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
on that note
[14-Feb-22 06:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
you had a strong townread on Dum
[14-Feb-22 06:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
you should start asking him questions
[14-Feb-22 06:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
he's itt and wanted to be @'d if anybody needed anything
[14-Feb-22 06:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
find your place on the other two conflicts by resolving idrc 🤷♂️
[14-Feb-22 06:42 PM] Arete#7872
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-2-7-10/1161/3601?u=teamslightlypolish
oh my god
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You seriously expect anything else from someone not experienced with hydras? Sheesh. This is literaly nothing but obvious shade on my slot. :sleepingleafeon:
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[14-Feb-22 06:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> never in my life have I found less cooperative baggage
[14-Feb-22 06:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
again
[14-Feb-22 06:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
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[14-Feb-22 06:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'm just gonna keep that one tabbed
[14-Feb-22 06:55 PM] Arete#7872
ftr I voted cat but I had a reason for that wasn't 'trying to make a Serious Push on her'
[14-Feb-22 06:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that's fine ofc
[14-Feb-22 06:58 PM] Arete#7872
I'm dipping for dinner
[14-Feb-22 06:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
glgl
[14-Feb-22 07:38 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
odds you're around to chat
[14-Feb-22 07:39 PM] Arete#7872
at dinner on mobile
[14-Feb-22 07:39 PM] Arete#7872
What's up
[14-Feb-22 07:39 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
we should come up with some sort of general plan before I enter the thread
[14-Feb-22 07:39 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
are we okay with me taking the "push LBW as town" angle or are we just giving up on them entirely
[14-Feb-22 07:40 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if I do that who do I actually push
[14-Feb-22 07:40 PM] Arete#7872
you can if you think it's strategically the best choice
don't do it if it's just general-desire-not-to-bus
[14-Feb-22 07:40 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
the question is then basically "do we think we get farther cutting our losses on LBW"
[14-Feb-22 07:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
to which I think the answer is reasonably "I don't think there's a significant difference in our survivability" maybe?
[14-Feb-22 07:41 PM] Arete#7872
idk
what does our path-to-victory look like in either case
[14-Feb-22 07:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
well
[14-Feb-22 07:41 PM] Arete#7872
ok wait I have an incredibly dumb idea
[14-Feb-22 07:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
oh boy
[14-Feb-22 07:41 PM] Arete#7872
like actually the worst
[14-Feb-22 07:41 PM] Arete#7872
okay so
[14-Feb-22 07:41 PM] Arete#7872
if we get someone other than Kii exed
[14-Feb-22 07:41 PM] Arete#7872
and don't kill Kii
[14-Feb-22 07:42 PM] Arete#7872
and then snap a villager
[14-Feb-22 07:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
uh
[14-Feb-22 07:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
he'll vote us
[14-Feb-22 07:42 PM] Arete#7872
wait that only works if they cross us back
[14-Feb-22 07:42 PM] Arete#7872
no no
[14-Feb-22 07:42 PM] Arete#7872
he might actually vote Leafia
[14-Feb-22 07:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
why would the villager not cross us back
[14-Feb-22 07:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if he does that's a rand at best
[14-Feb-22 07:43 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and I don't think he does? why would he do that
[14-Feb-22 07:43 PM] Arete#7872
yeah so basically
the theory here is that Kii fucks up due to not knowing Mafia theory
[14-Feb-22 07:43 PM] Arete#7872
and it goes to a 2-2-1 rand
[14-Feb-22 07:43 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
even I don't think he's that dumb
[14-Feb-22 07:44 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and I've seen him do some dumb stuff
[14-Feb-22 07:45 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
anyways I think betting on PKR making a *massive* mistake is not a great option
[14-Feb-22 07:45 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
plus I think "get a villager mislynched today" is the hard part
[14-Feb-22 07:45 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
lol
[14-Feb-22 07:46 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
anyways
**LBW**
**TSP**
cat
FPS
21
idrc
BB
[14-Feb-22 07:53 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
**cat**
++ Trochi
++ 21
~ FPS
~ idrc
- TSP
-- LBW
[14-Feb-22 07:56 PM] Arete#7872
sorry for disappearing I got kicked out of the dining hall
[14-Feb-22 07:56 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
**BB**
++ FPS
++ 21
+ Chloe
~ idrc
- TSP
-- LBW
[14-Feb-22 07:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
**FPS**
++ 21
++LBW
+ BB
~ idrc
- cat
- TSP
[14-Feb-22 08:02 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
**idrc**
+? Leafia
+? 21
literally the rest is unstated, total wildcard
[14-Feb-22 08:02 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
**21**
-----LBW
---TSP
the rest don't matter much this is unmovable on its own
[14-Feb-22 08:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
within the "triangle", we'd probably have the most conventional luck with an idrc push but I frankly think that becomes less appealing to all three of them if started by us-in-particular
[14-Feb-22 08:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
might be worth having YBW exercise some influence there? FPS actually likes LBW last I heard (or at least Aelin does, I should be careful about Brad)
[14-Feb-22 08:05 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
which means the next conventional weak points are FPS (who cat doesn't really champion) and cat (who Aelin-in-particular doesn't really like), given BB is an uphill battle for both of the other two (and also probably harder to make convincing?)
[14-Feb-22 08:05 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
or was it brad-in-particular
[14-Feb-22 08:06 PM] Arete#7872
I mildly think idrc scumreads us
because he keeps joking about getting people to townread us, which was indirectly in response to you saying that people townreading you makes you Mafia
[14-Feb-22 08:06 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
never discount eevee from being correct
[14-Feb-22 08:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
let's say we push cat and manage to get FPS on our side
as I said earlier that's a win iff we convince one of idrc or BB to join
[14-Feb-22 08:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and that's going to be hard in the current gamestate
[14-Feb-22 08:09 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that being said
[14-Feb-22 08:09 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
a push on idrc is a literal coinflip without a good argument
[14-Feb-22 08:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
21 is unpushable without serious work I think
[14-Feb-22 08:10 PM] Arete#7872
ok I have another bad idea
[14-Feb-22 08:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
FPSers is pushable too, probably
[14-Feb-22 08:10 PM] Arete#7872
what if YBW starts pushing idrc
and we intentionally defend idrc in a way that's designed to look partnery
[14-Feb-22 08:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but I think they're more likely to side with us against cat than cat is against us?
[14-Feb-22 08:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
hm
[14-Feb-22 08:11 PM] Arete#7872
to try to get all the people who are like 'we hate TSP. die.' to side with YBW
[14-Feb-22 08:11 PM] Arete#7872
although obviously Kii will side against LBW in anything
[14-Feb-22 08:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
my only issue with that is that I am not convinced the kindling exists to light an idrc flame with us on the defending end
[14-Feb-22 08:11 PM] Arete#7872
mmm
[14-Feb-22 08:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
when there's so much dry kindling around LBW
[14-Feb-22 08:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if we can get FPSers to *also* join that hill becomes much easier to climb
[14-Feb-22 08:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also also
[14-Feb-22 08:12 PM] Arete#7872
this might be TMI talking but I feel like anything being lit by us and LBW is going to be met with suspicion from approximately everyone else
[14-Feb-22 08:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
how do we handle LBW
[14-Feb-22 08:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if we take defense on idrc
[14-Feb-22 08:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
do I walk back my townread
[14-Feb-22 08:12 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if so does that do us any favors
[14-Feb-22 08:13 PM] Arete#7872
I think you can if we decide we want to
say I convinced you
and idk if it does or not
[14-Feb-22 08:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
well yes we clearly can, and I can definitely frame it as a gamestate thing
[14-Feb-22 08:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
although I do really want to hardsave them and just pull off a conventional mislynch 🙃
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
in this plan we're still pulling off a misexe just
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
on idrc
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
idk
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
the problem here is
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
if we vote LBW
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
and idrc self preses
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
which they will
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
and Kii obviously votes LBW
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
then every other villager has to go on idrc for this to work
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that leaves only FPSers on LBW's side imo
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
okay so the other option that just occurred to me
[14-Feb-22 08:14 PM] Arete#7872
which is probably really stupid
[14-Feb-22 08:15 PM] Arete#7872
is we get LBW to push idrc
and soft-defend them
and see if someone accidentally puts idrc on L-1
[14-Feb-22 08:15 PM] Arete#7872
and then openwolf quickhammer
[14-Feb-22 08:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
why bother with the soft defense at that point
[14-Feb-22 08:16 PM] Arete#7872
I was thinking 'to get more people to be willing to vote them rather than like 'ew TSP'
[14-Feb-22 08:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
tbf we aren't *that* ew that I think people will intentionally act *against* us
[14-Feb-22 08:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if we were we'd be more likely to go over than LBW
[14-Feb-22 08:17 PM] Arete#7872
fair
[14-Feb-22 08:17 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and rn it's looking like LBW goes over instead of us if one of us flips
[14-Feb-22 08:17 PM] Arete#7872
but like at the very least
[14-Feb-22 08:17 PM] Arete#7872
we need to not be *voting* them or we can't quickhammer
[14-Feb-22 08:17 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ye
[14-Feb-22 08:17 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I think that's true in general
[14-Feb-22 08:18 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
in which case I think we just have LBW move on idrc pretty much regardless
[14-Feb-22 08:18 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
maybe the move is to throw some slight shade rn
[14-Feb-22 08:18 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
then move on to other discussion points
[14-Feb-22 08:18 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and then have YBW come in later and swap to pushing idrc
[14-Feb-22 08:18 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and then fail to live up to our earlier shade with any actual action
[14-Feb-22 08:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
this also allows us to just man the push and let LBW snap if we get an L-1 somehow
[14-Feb-22 08:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if FPSers or somebody else hop on
[14-Feb-22 08:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
so if that's fine
[14-Feb-22 08:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
which I think it is
[14-Feb-22 08:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
the question is "where do we push in the meantime"
[14-Feb-22 08:20 PM] Arete#7872
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14-Feb-22 08:20 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and I think we're not going to be able to get by with split reads anymore
[14-Feb-22 08:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
we probably do genuinely need to coalesce - especially since people will take that as a sign of re-evaluation and attempting to solve
[14-Feb-22 08:21 PM] Arete#7872
if we're doing this mainly to buy time until we can quickhammer then I honestly think the cat push is fine
[14-Feb-22 08:21 PM] Arete#7872
this is if we're /not/ pushing idrc
[14-Feb-22 08:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
well the question is
[14-Feb-22 08:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
do we think FPSers is a better main push
[14-Feb-22 08:21 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I think those are our only two realistic options
[14-Feb-22 08:22 PM] Arete#7872
the issue with FPSers is that I've been hard-defending them so it might look like "bad progression"
[14-Feb-22 08:22 PM] Arete#7872
but idk how much people will care
[14-Feb-22 08:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
alternatively we could say we think it's something like [one of idrc/LBW and] one of FPS/cat without staking a specific claim
[14-Feb-22 08:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and move to determine which one it is
[14-Feb-22 08:24 PM] Arete#7872
ok
[14-Feb-22 08:24 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
or just "idrc and one of FPSers/cat"
[14-Feb-22 08:26 PM] Arete#7872
if you want to try to mine the 'admitting to blatantly wolfy things in the thread for towncred' angle you could say something like
Arete told you in hydra chat they're a little worried about Brad for {reasons, I can make something up}
but not very confident and they don't want to say it because they're scared people will think it's wolfy
and you think that's fucking stupid so you're saying it in the thread
but we agree they're not w/w with cat
[14-Feb-22 08:26 PM] Arete#7872
if you don't want to take that angle that's also Valid
[14-Feb-22 08:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
what makes that blatantly wolfy
[14-Feb-22 08:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also does it make more sense to be worried with brad or aelin
[14-Feb-22 08:26 PM] Arete#7872
it's not actually wolfy
[14-Feb-22 08:26 PM] Arete#7872
uhhhh
[14-Feb-22 08:26 PM] Arete#7872
I think Brad but Aelin could also work
[14-Feb-22 08:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
frankly let's just see what cat took issue with lol
[14-Feb-22 08:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> FPSers slightly pinged us today but we both think Brad was doing v!Brad things with the Windy stuff, and I think Aelin has still been mildly villagery, but I’m not as confident on it toDay as I was yesterDay because I realize if I’m being snowed by one of my townreads yesterDay it’s them, which makes me wary to have them very high without at least checking their ISO again
[14-Feb-22 08:27 PM] Arete#7872
the first fake concern that came to mind was 'Brad is just emphasizing that he was right and {us/cat} were wrong, but Being Right is easy for wolves, and he isn't trying to look into either of our motivation; he's kind of trying to avoid taking sides between us/cat and leaving us open to fight with each other, which is bad if v/v'
[14-Feb-22 08:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
fair enough
[14-Feb-22 08:36 PM] Arete#7872
oh right
[14-Feb-22 08:36 PM] Arete#7872
we should also like
[14-Feb-22 08:36 PM] Arete#7872
communicate with YBW about the plan
[14-Feb-22 08:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
not a bad idea but tbf neither of them are around rn
[14-Feb-22 08:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but yeah lemme write this up
[14-Feb-22 08:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
then we discuss it
[14-Feb-22 08:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
then we share with them
[14-Feb-22 08:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
sounds good?
[14-Feb-22 08:37 PM] Arete#7872
sounds good
[14-Feb-22 08:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
{Attachments}
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616822373970345984/942993355967701002/message.txt
[14-Feb-22 08:59 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
probably copy that into a text editor or just open my draft
[14-Feb-22 09:00 PM] Arete#7872
how much if at all do we care about getting BB on our side
because they've expressed some concern that we're pocketing them and 'they're just town for reasons' seems like not-going-to-help
[14-Feb-22 09:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I wasn't aware but I'm fine expanding on that
[14-Feb-22 09:01 PM] Arete#7872
> We also think it’s not unlikely Fire ended up townreading LBW overnight
would *lean* towards cutting this
[14-Feb-22 09:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I knew you would
[14-Feb-22 09:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
😛
[14-Feb-22 09:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I might drop it in later anyways tbqh? Like objectively "MR is more likely to go over than LBW" is true
[14-Feb-22 09:02 PM] Arete#7872
> The main thing that kickstarted this discussion was Arete being paranoid about how Brad was handling us earlier on, specifically how he was putting a lot of focus on how he was right and cat and us were wrong, without really trying to look into why each of us was wrong. Given it’s not hard for wolves to be right, we found the lack of positive motion throughout that encounter to look kinda like setting up a fight between cat and us without actually taking sides. This is quite possibly a loss condition for town if we’re v/v, and most certainly is if LBW/21 is also v/v, which is their standing belief.
this should probably also be reworked
since I previously said I thought LBW/21 was v/w
so saying that it being v/v is my standing belief is going to sound weird
[14-Feb-22 09:02 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
mf
[14-Feb-22 09:02 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
pronouns
[14-Feb-22 09:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also I did ditch that line anyways
[14-Feb-22 09:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
the "their" was referring to FPSers
[14-Feb-22 09:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also cut it regardless to
[14-Feb-22 09:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> The main thing that kickstarted this discussion was Arete being paranoid about how Brad was handling us earlier on, specifically how he was putting a lot of focus on how he was right and cat and us were wrong, without really trying to look into *why* each of us was wrong. Given it's not hard for wolves to be right, we found the lack of positive motion throughout that encounter to look kinda like setting up a fight between cat and us without actually taking sides. This is quite possibly a loss condition for town if we're v/v, and most certainly is if LBW/21 is also v/v.
[14-Feb-22 09:03 PM] Arete#7872
> but not very confident and they don't want to say it because they're scared people will think it's wolfy
> and you think that's fucking stupid so you're saying it in the thread
kiiiiinda want to keep this part of the Brad read
I think it makes it look more genuine even though it obviously has a lot of potential to backfire
[14-Feb-22 09:03 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
got it
[14-Feb-22 09:04 PM] Arete#7872
> Consider this my chessboard flip, but I literally haven’t read enough of the thread to figure out exactly where the pieces will land.
this line sounds super fake
[14-Feb-22 09:04 PM] Arete#7872
anyways other than the things I pointed out I think that's fine
[14-Feb-22 09:04 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I mean I can just cut it
[14-Feb-22 09:07 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> The main thing that kickstarted this discussion was Arete being paranoid about how Brad was handling us earlier on, specifically how he was putting a lot of focus on how he was right and cat and us were wrong, without really trying to look into *why* each of us was wrong. Given it's not hard for wolves to be right, they found the lack of tangible actions throughout that encounter to look kinda like setting up a fight between cat and us without actually taking sides. They wanted this to remain a secret read, since they think actually pushing for it might be seen as wolfy, but as this is quite possibly a loss condition for town if we're v/v, and most certainly is if LBW/21 is also v/v, I've made the executive decision to bring it up anyways.
[14-Feb-22 09:08 PM] Arete#7872
can you rephrase to
> They wanted this to remain a secret read, since they weren't super confident in it and they thought actually pushing for it might be seen as wolfy
[14-Feb-22 09:08 PM] Arete#7872
like I'm not trying to claim I was like 'oh they're definitely mafia. I will now proceed not to say anything.'
[14-Feb-22 09:08 PM] Arete#7872
and expect claiming that would be implausible
[14-Feb-22 09:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> They wanted this to remain a secret read, since they weren't super confident in it and they thought actually pushing for it might be seen as wolfy, but as this is quite possibly a loss condition for town if we're v/v, and most certainly is if LBW/21 is also v/v, I've made the executive decision to bring it up anyways.
[14-Feb-22 09:08 PM] Arete#7872
ok cool
[14-Feb-22 09:09 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
why do you think BB is town
[14-Feb-22 09:09 PM] Arete#7872
because of the thing where he was making a secret read for reasons that were really obviously a specific tell I'd shared with him
but not just saying those reasons
I thought that was pretty blatantly a real solving process
[14-Feb-22 09:11 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> BB is probably our only other solid townread. I personally have found their hydra dynamics to be eminently believable in a way I don't know if the two of them are skilled enough to fake (no offense Trochi), and Arete thinks their solving has been very real, particularly revolving around tells they had discussed before the game. Either way, we don't see ourselves going there today, or really before F3 at all.
[14-Feb-22 09:11 PM] Arete#7872
ok that looks better
[14-Feb-22 09:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
alr
[14-Feb-22 09:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
can I send the wall
[14-Feb-22 09:25 PM] Arete#7872
ye
[14-Feb-22 09:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
uh
[14-Feb-22 09:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
our post needs mod approval
[14-Feb-22 09:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
for whatever reason
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
wanna take care of that?
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
uhhh
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
I can go figure that out?
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
shouldn't be an issue
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
wait
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
wait
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
should I do it
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
no
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ok
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
because you're not a mod and Chloe might get mad
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
as long as you aren't planning to pretend you aren't around
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also I can approve my own post lmao
[14-Feb-22 09:26 PM] Arete#7872
uhhhh
[14-Feb-22 09:27 PM] Arete#7872
idk why it's not approved, all the things that block approval are like
[14-Feb-22 09:27 PM] Arete#7872
slurs
[14-Feb-22 09:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
oh
[14-Feb-22 09:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
it's FAG
[14-Feb-22 09:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
lmao
[14-Feb-22 09:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Fleet Admiral Goldbar
[14-Feb-22 09:27 PM] Arete#7872
ohhhh
[14-Feb-22 09:27 PM] Arete#7872
I approved it
[14-Feb-22 09:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ye that's fine
[14-Feb-22 09:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
not like anybody will mistake the meaning
[14-Feb-22 09:28 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
it's clearly an acronym
[14-Feb-22 09:38 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also ftr
[14-Feb-22 09:38 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
thread quiet
[14-Feb-22 09:39 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
but my canned response to "why can't it be FPSers and cat" amounts to basically "there's no reason for the scum to both try and save HH in a way that both doesn't work and doesn't net one any positive cred, but also idrc isn't being pushed at all, and also that game hard"
[14-Feb-22 10:05 PM] Arete#7872
do you have opinions on which of us answers the current batch of questions
[14-Feb-22 10:05 PM] Arete#7872
(or if you want to split them)
[14-Feb-22 10:06 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
idc we can probably both go but you should focus on a villagery mindset because our push is already wolfsided enough that you just need to hit 'em with that *villager energy*
[14-Feb-22 10:07 PM] Arete#7872
> would there be any difference in how each slot kinda takes control and stagnates thread as scum? (what i assume you’re implying correct me if wrong)
> do they have different partners?
> a lot of attention has been on lbw today, do you think this spews leafia more likely maf or town if there’s scum in fps/cat aka would they be more likely to but or aim for a lhf misyeet
[14-Feb-22 10:07 PM] Arete#7872
what do we think about this
[14-Feb-22 10:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
who asked that
[14-Feb-22 10:08 PM] Arete#7872
Trochi
[14-Feb-22 10:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Pinned a message.
[14-Feb-22 10:43 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
So
[14-Feb-22 10:43 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Consider
[14-Feb-22 10:43 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
BB can potentially be made to be on our side
[14-Feb-22 10:44 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
If they are that means FPSers and them are both slots we can maybe get to not vote LBW
[14-Feb-22 10:44 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Which is maj as long as we don't and they don't self
[14-Feb-22 10:44 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ie this is a great direction and ideally pressure releases naturally onto idrc
[14-Feb-22 10:46 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> random thing, but i have a suuuuuuuuper dumb reason to townread arete rn
[14-Feb-22 10:46 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
It's probably you expecting people to read six games
[14-Feb-22 10:46 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
gg
[14-Feb-22 11:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Yo what're the odds this ends up lynching FPSers lmao
[14-Feb-22 11:21 PM] Arete#7872
they're the most villagery slot in the game 😹
[14-Feb-22 11:21 PM] Arete#7872
so surprisingly high given that
[14-Feb-22 11:22 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Good timing for Brad to get sick
[14-Feb-22 11:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
sorry not sorry that's life
[15-Feb-22 10:17 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Oh my god
[15-Feb-22 10:19 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
If I need to downplay PKR's idrc/LBW read it would be possible to basically say "I'm not sold on your solution because over years of playing with you your exact solutions have rarely been right and when they have been the game has been canned"
[15-Feb-22 10:19 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Which would probably be the meanest thing I've ever said in FM
[15-Feb-22 10:20 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
To be clear this is not something I want to say because, again, it's like, incredibly rude and not for much reason
[15-Feb-22 10:53 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Hello arete
Reminder that if you're posting in the Discord you are publicly known to have been capable of posting itt
[15-Feb-22 10:53 AM] Arete#7872
o7
[15-Feb-22 10:53 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Not saying you *need* to
[15-Feb-22 10:53 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
But keep it in mind
[15-Feb-22 10:54 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also what about a mechanically guaranteed loss 👀
[15-Feb-22 10:55 AM] Arete#7872
it wasn't guaranteed! just really likely
[15-Feb-22 11:09 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Are you not responding to pkr's ping
[15-Feb-22 11:09 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
We've basically already talked about that exact team
[15-Feb-22 11:10 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
So all we really need to do is quote the part of our wall talking about the idrc/LBW team
[15-Feb-22 11:10 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
And ask if he agrees with our assessment of eevee
[15-Feb-22 11:14 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Are you doing that or should I do it and just sign as you
[15-Feb-22 11:14 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Or are you purposefully not doing that
[15-Feb-22 11:19 AM] orangeandblack5#4506
Alr I did it
[15-Feb-22 01:07 PM] Arete#7872
I was in class
[15-Feb-22 01:08 PM] Arete#7872
or actually maybe I missed it
[15-Feb-22 01:08 PM] Arete#7872
as in didn't see it
[15-Feb-22 01:23 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
It's fine I gotchu
[15-Feb-22 01:24 PM] Arete#7872
tyty
[15-Feb-22 01:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also be ready for a ping, hopefully
[15-Feb-22 01:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
(not about the game)
[15-Feb-22 01:31 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
There is is
[15-Feb-22 01:32 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Just remember what I said about public talking lol
[15-Feb-22 03:47 PM] Arete#7872
hi
[15-Feb-22 03:47 PM] Arete#7872
is anything happening
[15-Feb-22 03:47 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Cat's back on us and is pro-idrc
[15-Feb-22 03:48 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Aelin is around but not really sold on a course of action
[15-Feb-22 03:48 PM] Arete#7872
why tf is cat back on us
[15-Feb-22 03:48 PM] Arete#7872
and why are they pro-idrc
[15-Feb-22 03:48 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
~~Because we're not in thread and cat has been townreading whoever is in the thread at the time~~ game hard kill orange
[15-Feb-22 03:54 PM] Arete#7872
do we want to push the FPSers world or the idrc world today
[15-Feb-22 03:55 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Unsure, also working atm so
[15-Feb-22 03:56 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
FPS is pushing BB
[15-Feb-22 03:56 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
which means FPS may actually be the safest, technically
[15-Feb-22 04:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Also the "why are you town" one is probably answered best by the fact that we're the only people that kickstarted any non-sucky discussion today while everyone else has been sleepwalking into LyLo
[15-Feb-22 04:01 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
We've talked about other things but that's new territory
[15-Feb-22 04:36 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Remember that the wall we co-wrote was co-written
[15-Feb-22 04:37 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
And so "*I* kickstarted the discussion that led the entire thread to stop sleepwalking" is a fair statement
[15-Feb-22 04:37 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Tell them if they've been attributing that to me that's on them 😛
[15-Feb-22 04:41 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
In particular, you kickstarted the FPSers discussion and also you realizing your Dum read didn't hold up is what pushed us to consider idrc, both of whom we still think are likely scum
[15-Feb-22 04:42 PM] Arete#7872
I'm saying that you wrote the actual wall even though many of the ideas were mine because all my walls end up being like 3000 words
[15-Feb-22 04:42 PM] Arete#7872
so if anyone asks don't contradict that
[15-Feb-22 04:42 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
that's fair
[15-Feb-22 04:43 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
And I did specifically call you out at several points, especially FPSers (which was entirely yours) and the changeup on idrc (which was mostly yours)
[15-Feb-22 04:47 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
@Arete drop a conclusion on that post
[15-Feb-22 04:47 PM] Arete#7872
uhhh
[15-Feb-22 04:47 PM] Arete#7872
I already clicked send
[15-Feb-22 04:47 PM] Arete#7872
it didn't go through because of the filter but I don't really want to abuse the fact that it got flagged to substantively change it
[15-Feb-22 04:47 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
just pointing out the posts is weak you gotta connect it to where we're at now
[15-Feb-22 04:48 PM] Arete#7872
ok but the question was literally just 'where have you been scumhunting'
[15-Feb-22 04:48 PM] Arete#7872
and again
[15-Feb-22 04:48 PM] Arete#7872
not wanting to abuse the filter
[15-Feb-22 04:48 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
So make that a follow-up then
[15-Feb-22 04:48 PM] Arete#7872
sure
[15-Feb-22 04:49 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Don't take the angry bait
[15-Feb-22 04:50 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Just calmly point out you've had school and I've been at work
[15-Feb-22 04:50 PM] Arete#7872
sorry for not following up right away
[15-Feb-22 04:50 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Because idt they believe the lack of voting is actually scum-AI for us lol
[15-Feb-22 04:50 PM] Arete#7872
I was explaining to Dat why our post got flagged
[15-Feb-22 04:52 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ftr I can hop in whenever
[15-Feb-22 04:52 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I just think that if you can bring cat around while they think I'm gone that's way better
[15-Feb-22 04:55 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
say "who just got off work" or something
[15-Feb-22 04:55 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
it can be a lead-up to my showing up
[15-Feb-22 04:55 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
however you wanna say "oh he's on his way home"
[15-Feb-22 04:56 PM] Arete#7872
I already sent the post
[15-Feb-22 04:57 PM] Arete#7872
but I can make a different one
[15-Feb-22 04:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I mean
[15-Feb-22 04:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
you said
[15-Feb-22 04:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> with that being said I think we probably land on FPSers or idrc today, pending actually having the chance to talk it through with orange
[15-Feb-22 04:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
to which "oh look he's on his way" is a natural response
[15-Feb-22 04:57 PM] Arete#7872
okay
[15-Feb-22 04:57 PM] Arete#7872
I'm going to wait for after the hour to send that
[15-Feb-22 04:57 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
alr
[15-Feb-22 04:58 PM] Arete#7872
I doubt anyone will actually try to angleshoot 'when would orange get off work' but
[15-Feb-22 04:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
tbf I leave slightly before or after 4 all the time
[15-Feb-22 04:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
so if anything waiting until after 5 is sketchier
[15-Feb-22 04:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
😛
[15-Feb-22 05:07 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
hi arete
[15-Feb-22 05:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'm out of work
[15-Feb-22 05:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I'm "on my way home" and will be around until EoD probably
[15-Feb-22 05:08 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
gimme cliffs
[15-Feb-22 05:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
tell kat "so it's your last chance to talk with just me" or some such?
[15-Feb-22 05:10 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
seems like that's something he's invested in
[15-Feb-22 05:12 PM] Arete#7872
hi orange
[15-Feb-22 05:12 PM] Arete#7872
okay so
[15-Feb-22 05:12 PM] Arete#7872
cat randomly turned on us again for no reason
[15-Feb-22 05:12 PM] Arete#7872
and Aelin spent a while ATEing about being scumread
[15-Feb-22 05:13 PM] Arete#7872
Kiiruma seems to sort of almost be reconsidering Leafia?
[15-Feb-22 05:13 PM] Arete#7872
this is out of order
[15-Feb-22 05:13 PM] Arete#7872
also Trochi had a complicated explanation of his brain things but he's obvious town anyway so I'm not going to try to explain it because I know I'd do a bad job
[15-Feb-22 05:14 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Maybe less obvious town, more "probably just town"
[15-Feb-22 05:15 PM] Arete#7872
ok fine
[15-Feb-22 05:15 PM] Arete#7872
he's probably just town
[15-Feb-22 05:15 PM] Arete#7872
also I believe that he thinks his brainthings actually make him clear
[15-Feb-22 05:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also feel free to remind kat that I have actually found Chloe towny
[15-Feb-22 05:15 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
😛
[15-Feb-22 05:16 PM] Arete#7872
I feel like I can't do that without sounding super wolfy-in-phrasing
[15-Feb-22 05:19 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
> [quote="cat, post:4244, topic:1161"]
> “but you’re katze” isnt a valid excuse, because “but you have orange” 🙂
> [/quote]
>
> who has found Chloe towny 😹
[15-Feb-22 05:24 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if you think that's still bad lmk
[15-Feb-22 05:24 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
if you're gonna say it it does need to be before I show up lol
[15-Feb-22 05:25 PM] Arete#7872
yeah it sounds like we know they're town and are trying to be like 'we townread you, please townread us 🥺'
[15-Feb-22 05:25 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
alr
[15-Feb-22 05:30 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
good answer imo
[15-Feb-22 05:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
remember, no angry tone in response to the (obvious) bait
[15-Feb-22 05:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
fuck lmao
[15-Feb-22 05:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
shoulda hopped in earlier
[15-Feb-22 05:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
was boutta dropkick idrc for having FPS in their core and then suddenly completely dropping all push there without interaction
[15-Feb-22 05:47 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
can I vote FPSers
[15-Feb-22 05:47 PM] Arete#7872
yes
[15-Feb-22 06:13 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
do we attempt to have Leafia push idrc here
[15-Feb-22 06:14 PM] Arete#7872
sure why not
[15-Feb-22 06:14 PM] Arete#7872
btw I'm on mobile for a bit
[15-Feb-22 06:14 PM] Arete#7872
so might not see Discord pings right away
[15-Feb-22 06:16 PM] Arete#7872
also can you respond to this and point out that we were the one trying to move on from that fight and look elsewhere *today*
I don't know how to do it without sounding super wolfy
[15-Feb-22 06:16 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
which post
[15-Feb-22 06:16 PM] Arete#7872
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-2-7-10/1161/4353?u=teamslightlypolish
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Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 2 (7/10)
if im being honest the tldr is that it feels hard the game feels incredibly hard nobody is an Obvious Wolf I think the Kiiru/LBW thing could be v/v and I think you guys could were giving us the one more chance to be right knowing that we’d be wrong and could use it against us in f5
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[15-Feb-22 06:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-2-7-10/1161/4394?u=teamslightlypolish
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Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 2 (7/10)
cant wait to get wagoned when im not here /s
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[15-Feb-22 06:27 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
lol this is actually going to happen
[15-Feb-22 06:29 PM] Arete#7872
tbh I'd rather get FPSers out if we can swing it
which maybe we can't
[15-Feb-22 06:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
oh full agree
[15-Feb-22 06:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
no question
[15-Feb-22 06:33 PM] Arete#7872
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-day-2-7-10/1161/4402?u=teamslightlypolish
lmao
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Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Day 2 (7/10)
every time i think arete is in the thread i think you guys are hella wolfy and every time orange is in the thread im like “fuck” lolme
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[15-Feb-22 06:33 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
fr
[15-Feb-22 06:33 PM] Arete#7872
~~sorry~~
[15-Feb-22 06:35 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I mean, you're posting
[15-Feb-22 06:36 PM] Arete#7872
low bar
[15-Feb-22 06:36 PM] Arete#7872
admittedly some people nevertheless limbo under it
[15-Feb-22 06:40 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
also to be clear you're definitely doing way better than posting
[15-Feb-22 06:46 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
on that note
[15-Feb-22 06:47 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
are you still on mobile
[15-Feb-22 06:47 PM] Arete#7872
yes
[15-Feb-22 06:48 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
are you avoiding posting for any particular reason
[15-Feb-22 06:50 PM] Arete#7872
I'm writing a response to Leafia
[15-Feb-22 06:50 PM] Arete#7872
since I am on mobile this is taking a bit
[15-Feb-22 07:24 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
what's this about wpm
[15-Feb-22 07:29 PM] Arete#7872
I pointed out to kat in G10 that it takes me longer to compose minimally acceptable posts as scum
which I'm pretty sure is true
and then I brought it up this game but the main reason I did that was because I didn't think she would actually *check* the timestamps on my posts and I'm definitely in my scum meta for posting speed 😹
[15-Feb-22 07:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
yeah I know
[15-Feb-22 07:29 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
it's fine there's a half hour
[15-Feb-22 07:36 PM] Arete#7872
fuck I was really hoping Kii wouldn't show up
[15-Feb-22 07:37 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ye
[15-Feb-22 07:46 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
@Arete you're up
[15-Feb-22 07:48 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
in particular with speed plz
[15-Feb-22 07:53 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
as fast as you can
[15-Feb-22 07:53 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
it's not results
[15-Feb-22 07:53 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
it's the process
[15-Feb-22 08:02 PM] Arete#7872
was fun playing with you
sorry for not being villagery enough to win over one more person
[15-Feb-22 08:02 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
is fine, was super fun taking a nightmare scenario rand and a... not-great start to a point where we could possibly actually win
[15-Feb-22 08:06 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
well all we can do now is hope
[15-Feb-22 08:06 PM] Arete#7872
ye
[15-Feb-22 08:06 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
I think there's plenty that ties us, but *most* of it is from SoD1
[15-Feb-22 08:07 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
admittedly saving them from the sleepyeet may be taken as paired but there's not much we can do about that
[15-Feb-22 08:07 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
and given my stance on MR it may well not
[15-Feb-22 08:07 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
we'll see
[15-Feb-22 08:07 PM] Arete#7872
a couple of my posts right at EoD were trying to look like, if I was a wolf, I was TMIing them as v/v
[15-Feb-22 08:07 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
ye ik
[15-Feb-22 08:07 PM] Arete#7872
which was hard since I also wanted them to not be wolfy posts
[15-Feb-22 08:07 PM] Arete#7872
but
[16-Feb-22 08:45 PM] Arete#7872
https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/hydra-optional-vig10er-night-2-6-10/1161/4771?u=arete
:polidab:
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Hydra-Optional Vig10er - Night 2 (6/10)
see where im slightly torn is arete’s treatment of leafia feels like how arete pushes lhf but orange’s treatment of leafia feels like how orange treats partners lmao
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[16-Feb-22 08:56 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Eyyyyyyy a reversal
[16-Feb-22 08:56 PM] Arete#7872
currently thinking idrc goes today and LBW in f3
[16-Feb-22 08:56 PM] Arete#7872
but we'll see
[16-Feb-22 08:58 PM] orangeandblack5#4506
Would be awesome
[16-Feb-22 08:58 PM] Arete#7872
I mean ideally LBW doesn't go in f3 either 😛
Arete 15-Feb-22 05:15 PM
ok fine
he’s probably just town
also I believe that he thinks his brainthings actually make him clear
they did smh
but also i read that while thing and holy shit the effort
y’all impress me
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side note this probably won’t actually be applicable again
lots of extenuating circumstances this game
so
yeah
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also what’s next game
figuring that out rn lol
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we’re double-checking host availability now but whatever the answer it’ll probably open tomorrow
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based