I mean
Demishaās agreed to be shot by Jack tonight, so thatās hopefully resolved by tomorrow morning.
If thatās true, then it feels suicidal for w!Dem to agree to this seeing as Kanave a wolf was executed D1 and there is a missing N1 kill. I donāt see Dem being a hit here.
I was really tired which isnt the best answer lol. Thats all i got. It was always fine but when possible creating friction will usually help town out sort later.
I think the only team that remotely made sense here was zorvo/crich/marluna
Jaiden if she decided to just bus instead of seeing it play out but she has other good things. Maybe fits kinda
Idk if I said this at any point before, but beancatās claim feels like it took an opportunity to get a strong villager like catbae killed timing-wise
When it was made, we all knew that - unless there was a town roleblocker/jailkeeper who used their action last night - the wolves crosskilled with the claimed vig, Zorvo, on Marl, who got saved
The only thing that couldāve thrown a wrench into this was somebody getting blocked or jailkept, and beancat claiming a block on catbae at that point can potentially get catbae killed with no real downside (it can still reasonably be V/V from an uninformed pov)
Catbae said earlier that beancat wouldāve had to be coached for this to be the case, but I feel like itās not a terribly advanced play to make, itās just a good opportunity to get a freebie kill when youāre not in a great thread position
Letās face it, without the claim weād probably be consolidating on beancat right now
I actually thought all of this back when the claim was made but I donāt think I ever shared the thoughts because I wasnāt sure
Iām still not exactly sure but I want this to be discussed
The first post you quoted is #2162. The second post you quoted attempting to argue that I am contradicting myself is #1829. You are being disingenuous as fuck.
Someone else please look at this because zorvo quoting an older post after a newer post out of context to try to use it against me is really fucking scummy
Oh yeah, the problem with Zorvo is that his townplay isā¦ interestingā¦ which gives him good cover to do a lot of stuff as mafia, like this
Ftr I also think the crosskill on Marl is rather unlikely but I canāt rule it out
marl isnt cleared now good reminder
town
me
jaiden
vulgard
leafia
phraze
pigeonwaiting for town id after d2
magnus
zorvo
beancat3p
jackritowill die today
catbae10/16 going strong so far
not cleared if catbae is w yeah
if heās v i am the only possible explanation for the wolf kill being missing other than gamethrowing holstering
You see, just yeeting Achro instead IS an option
a lot harder to sell with me having pushed the āmechanically optimalā route all day
but it is still on the table i guess
I think if both beancat and catbae are town (in that unlikely scenario) no crosskill happened.
Then Zorvoās just lying or wolves holstered?
Most likely.
zorvo isnāt lying i dont think
his reaction felt like someone whoās kill just failed
and the reaction happening in thread rather than in a scum chat is extremely AI imo
why would wolves holster the night they lost one of their own in a vanilla-lite setup?
I donāt think heās lying about having attacked you either, I was just asking Marluna to elaborate on their pov
vulgard did you see achro asking jack to wolfside and shoot me instead
Oh yeah, the problem with Zorvo is that his townplay isā¦ interestingā¦ which gives him good cover to do a lot of stuff as mafia, like this
Now you mention this. I talked about this as a possible world weāre in earlier today.
I am pretty sure catbae will be a hit based on marlās reaction tbh. Alao that world fitting with 1 of 3 hitman targets being scum. The theory clicks for me but if it is wrong it at least clarifies things.
iām right in the middle of it and i know omgus reads are a thing but
it feels like something v!achro does not ever do
With Achro Iām partly in the mindset of āthereās one thing here that was missing from his scumgame and it seems like a very important thingā and the other part is āa lot of the stuff heās said either looks bad in hindsight or is questionableā
just a reminder that before i logged on tonight to check thread, molly and beancat were both the top wagons
catbae had like 1 or 2 votes
i MADE this wagon happen
that isnāt how i bus and you KNOW that isnāt how i bus from HTF and T&T