Kaguya-sama: Love is War Mafia - Game Over - Town & Hitman Win

[CRichardFortressLies]

@Demisha

I also would like to point out how to me Vulgard looks like a desperate wolf who was having the attention start being put mainly on them and started spouting a lot of theorycrafted reads that seem to mainly attempt to shift the attention to other people while at the same time trying to inspire confidence in calling the easy townreads?

@Vulgard

Villagery from Magnus

Opens with this then proceeds to contradict any sign of thinking they’re town, then what’s the point of that opener

@Vulgard

Can you explain… well, any of this? You keep saying you like/dislike wagons but don’t explain why exactly.

@Vulgard

Why would I want to draw attention to myself as either alignment?

@Vulgard

Which feels more NAI. That said, this being Marluna’s only sentiment so far (“leave Leafia alone!”) doesn’t inspire much confidence.

That’s the first “I don’t trust this but maybe they’re trustable” hail mary hoping to look towny while potentially throwing shade on another player off of themselves

@Vulgard

Kanave’s posting in this game so far is a polar opposite of her posting in the newbie 9er, where she was town. I had her as a hard townread in that game (in specchat) from very early into day 1 and here she has 34 posts of nothing meaningful, really.

This is a second instance of exactly the same thing, though this argument is somewhat more reasonable than the previous one on their defense

@Vulgard

Phraze’s ISO is realistically NAI but my gut is telling me the slot is town.

Another line trying to just inspire trust and confidence from town

To be completely honest I can’t get my mind off the feeling that Vulgard was being slightly pressured since last night and they started suddenly ramping up their utility participation to try get the attention off of themselves onto whoever they’d see started getting traction, I really don’t like this slot

Pretty blatant Vulgard shade D1. Dem trying to setup a Vul mislunch it seems.

[Zorvo]

@Jackrito

The only one would be the one where I say if you were a vig which I dont believe you are at all. So thats not me saying they is 2 wolfs here. My role existing makes 5 wolves impossible.

Ok but like you said if I’m Vigi, which I am, there is 2 wolves.

[CRichardFortressLies]

Dem slipped TMI on the masons as town, and that is reflected on how she tried to shade Vulgard for having a town lean on one of the masons.
I should keep an eye out if this is unique or if this is a behavior pattern from Dem.

[Zorvo]

Like Jack you not denying this but yet you seem to have a problem with it.

You also said yesterday “oh I can see Zorvo being town cause it makes sense why we both have Vigi’s”

What changed?

[Zorvo]

@Jackrito

[Zorvo]

Yeah CRichard is town.

[Jackrito]

I started caring about the game mainly, I have not cared this entire game until today. Once I looked into stuff the power inbalance super stood out.

[Zorvo]

Also Marluna is Town if Jack is Mafia from this post here:

@Marluna

@lol

@Host_Account_1

Kanave (7): Vulgard, Phraze, Leafia, Jackrito, lol, Jaiden, catbae

if seth is wolf this is villa only

No comment

Although if Jack is mafia it’s probably Marluxion.

@Marluna

I Didn’t expect mafia shooting 1-shot Tracker.

I didn’t see them attacking Zorvo at that point.

I wasn’t sure on Bean’s rb claim. I read pigeon being more likely to be town than them.

Actually this post here might be Marluna!Town by TMI.

[Zorvo]

Before anyone goes “what happen to your Marluna Wolf read?”

Most of it was based on Bean flipping town.

[CRichardFortressLies]

@Demisha

A) he got roleblocked, which suggests im either a wolf being saved by my teammates or they decided to take a gamble to frame me as one because why would wolves waste a roleblock to save a town?

B) he’s holding his shot back until there is only one person in the hitlist left alive because he doesn’t fully trust town (what reason does he have to believe people are gonna get marluxion killed after im dead?) to fulfill his wincon but he’s being threatened every living second to comply or die so he needs to put up the act

C) he is a desperate wolf who’s stuck in this situation because he was forced to claim at start of day 2 (i suppose the only world in which this makes sense is a world where he was too scared to claim VT because he’d be expendable but also didn’t want to be the center of the spotlight as a PR)

I think C can pretty reliably be ruled off, if you look at the circumstances under which he claimed it’s probably borderline impossible for that to be the case but i’d have to go and reread that section tbh idk

Thing is if Dem/Jack are teamed, it feels that you don’t tie yourself to your teammate with posts like this. At least that’s my impression when reading this post.
At this point, Dem/Jackrito as a team seems incredibly unlikely unless we’re seeing high level distancing/bussing. I’m willing to dismiss the Dem/Jack team theory as a tinfoil for today.

[Zorvo]

Actually can Marluxion be a lost wolf?
Leafia brought it up in their last posts last day.

[Zorvo]

@Jackrito

I started caring about the game mainly, I have not cared this entire game until today. Once I looked into stuff the power inbalance super stood out.

Why is there a power imbalance?

[Zorvo]

Not sure what Marluna claimed but.

Town 1-Shot Vigilante
Town Odd Night Doctor
Town JOAT
Town Mason
Town Mason
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

2 Mafia Goons
1 Mafia Roleblocker

I know all these are present in the game.
Where is the imbalance?

[CRichardFortressLies]

@Demisha

I townread Jaiden, Leafia and Acro, but I don’t have any wolf reads yet

I think Jaiden’s attitude while a bit paranoic in my view is understandable from their perspective but I think at the end of the day she was just on the wrong trail from the beginning.
She raised a fair point about not wanting to let Leafia endgame which we can revisit later IF WE NEED TO but I think for D1 we’d need more than that to settle on Leafia.

Leafia was very defensive but I also honestly believe that as towny because of how there was a mini wagon of even random people who came out of nowhere to vote her, I think it’s a warranted reaction.

Acro has legit been in solve mode on every post they made, that’s my whole reason to townread them but im still open to change my views on all 3 depending on what happens next

Again Dem brings up Jaiden, Leafia and Achro. Once I could dismiss as a coincidence, yet 2 or more is looking like a pattern regarding rule of 3.

[Zorvo]

Ah so Marluna claims Even-Night Watcher

[Zorvo]

That actually makes sense in this setup tbh. Cause Odd-Night Doctor

[Zorvo]

I didn’t want to issue a mass claim today but I’m tempted to see what makes more sense for the setup.

@lol
@eliza
@CRichardFortressLies
@Magnus

Are you all vanilla?

[Zorvo]

We can execute me if that helps but I need to figure this out.

[Zorvo]

Trying to see if 3P makes sense or not here.

[Zorvo]

@Jackrito
Who were your targets again?
Demi, Marluxion and who?