Last Stand of the Virtuous V: Venerated - Day 3 (10/17) - UNSEEN AND VISCOUNT WIN

[jail]

gn

[Luka]

good night

[Geyde]

@Geyde

Catinatree’s stubbornness towards playing their way isn’t a move I see hypothetical mafia wanting to make. You get the opportunity to look productive by solving more and you don’t face nearly as much scrutiny for trying to do reads but not fitting the thread’s arbitrary boxes due to not knowing what you’re looking for
It’s less an instance of trying to remain consistent and more ‘I genuinely see nearly any wolf trying to vary up their play when faced with current thread’

I think the difference that makes this valid is that I think Cat is absolutely capable of making that leap and chose not to do so in favor of doing what I’d ascribe as ‘doing what I enjoy’
I don’t see why a wolf would want to do that
Wolves take angles with the goal of winning and Cat is just being themselves which is based and yeah that’s villagery

[Geyde]

@CatInTree

1. Geyde Slightly Positive (mostly social read, like how they seem to be trying to solve)
2. Frostwolf103 Slightly positive (being so open with their role felt towny)
3. Kiiruma Neutral read (hasn’t done much to my memory, think I need to think about this read more)
4. Ash 100% evil, I don’t see any other option possible
5. Amelia Slightly negative read (got roleblocked, but that doesn’t make me think they are good, could be explanation for no death)
6. jail Positive read (mostly social, our conflict felt t/t)
7. Hazardwaste Positive read (has done some helpful mech solving)
8. Canping Neutral read (hasn’t done a lot, don’t know if that’s good or bad)
9. Eve Neutral read (hasn’t done a lot, don’t know if that’s good or bad)
10. SirDerpsAlot Slightly negative read (purely social)
11. Jarek Negative read (if evil explains the second roleblock, at worst LW so don’t think it’s the best exe)
12. Bionic Slightly good read (Mostly social)
13. Luka Neutral read (Feels very in control, but I don’t know if that’s good or bad, marital claim means I don’t think they are a good exe)
14. Zugzwang Slightly positive read (mostly from helping mech solve)
15. CatInTree 100% good
16. Brakuren Strong good read (mostly from roleblock claim)
17. Leafia 100% good

but then I sit on this post and wonder if it was building on sand
I should eat dinner

[Geyde]

@CatInTree

jail Positive read (mostly social, our conflict felt t/t)

could you explain this

[Geyde]

when the hell did this jail interaction happen

[CatInTree]

Yeah
So jail picked up that I was building worlds about Leafia not being one of the 3 mod message roles, and tried to stop me from spreading that, because it would give wolves an opportunity.
I thought they were shutting down any conversation about Leafia being good, which I didn’t like, and also misinterpreted a message they made, where they said doing something was towny, to mean they thought Leafia was town but didn’t want people looking into it. I said I thought this made them evil.
We then figured out the misinterpretations and both backed down.

Reasons I think this is t/t:
Jail was trying to stop Tinfoiling on Leafia, which I feel a wolf would just ignore and let happen
Jail dived into my messages instead of backing down, which feels townlike, as I feel a wolf wouldn’t want to get into a social conflict over a misinterpritation, but a town might read that as a push.
Jail backed down after the misinterpitation instead of continuing to push on me

[CatInTree]

@Geyde This is the message I believe started the argument
It continues from here

[CatInTree]

@jail

i think that inherently taking a deeper look publicly into what leafia’s modpost means shows ~townie more than not

I thought this was saying Leafia was townie more than not
But it was saying that looking into Leafia was townie more than not

[Geyde]

so it was like
all there

I’ve never had an argument be that readable before
unrelated question how were you immediately feeling after the fact

[CatInTree]

I was feeling good
My mistake didn’t seem like it created any negative read, and the argument was short enough to not upset me

[Geyde]

huh
never actually enjoyed an argument like that
when did it crystallize for you that jail was approaching it from a towny space
I usually assume bad intentions to a fault

[CatInTree]

When I realized I misinterpreted their message
And so the responses I got made sense

[Geyde]

in the moment?
wow

[Geyde]

I can’t keep playing mafia until it negatively affects my health out of some devotion to an idea
I’m sleeping gotdamn

[Brakuren]

Genuinely why the fuck was I awake at 6:30 am

[Frostwolf103]

I am here

[Brakuren]

@Frostwolf103

I am here

do you have any mech

[Brakuren]

@Frostwolf103

[Frostwolf103]

I am waiting if anyone visited Canping and whether he got bled.