Legacy Forum of Lies 2 - The Psychopathic King, Possessor, and Alchemist win

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#3843

i think it is tho

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#3844

there’s fucktons of abilities that copy other abilities

#3845

most notably the cult
but also Mastermind can have literally anything

#3846

i see, in that case yeah i would agree with the second part, i would argue that it isnt connected with the first part though. if someone says something perceived as scummy and ppl incorrectly chop them, u could argue there was a misplay on one or both sides of the townies socially. like they failed a social skill check

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#3847

in the words of eevee (ironic)
“mech trumps socials”

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#3848

and yeah

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#3849

I could clear karin mechanically because of the poss thing I could clear osaa mechanically just for being attacked and dying, osaa was trustworthy anyway but imagine they weren’t

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#3850

er whgoops

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#3851

other way around

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#3852

IN SETUPS LIKE THIS socials trump mech

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#3853

ironically you’d think things like mech-heavy closed setups are the setups in which mech would trump socials
but really they aren’t

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#3854

There’s a few more smaller more “me” examples but this is what I mean. I don’t need to socially read these players, I just know they’re good, regardless of what they do

Yeah converts are a thing but the converts are not the starting evils that I am looking for and thus they are still mechanically cleared for the purposes of this

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#3855

yeah, id argue a lot of town miskills happened as a result of social deductions - abella, kaiser, blackkhalev

(i am not assigning blame to any particular party, just objectively trying to label the situation)

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#3856

If karin had done that wish and everything transpired as it did D2 and then karin started acting weird D3 nobody would have killed them for it unless they thought they got converted, but they wouldn’t have been for various reasons so /shrug

mechanics

#3857

multiple ppl thought kaiser is achro. poor achro man, u guys dont understand him at all :crying_cat_face:

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#3858

change title?
“The Bastard, The Alchemist and The Possessor win!”

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#3859

my name first

both alphabetically and because i sided with u. u owe ur life to me.

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#3860

fair :wowee:

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#3861

Eliza didn’t you have a passive to auto win

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#3862

the thing that converted 5 ppl to alchemists was considered too op by geyde and never to be included. the elected PK and starting PK had other differences too

according to eevee, he asked eliza and she agreed to not use it, so from his pov it was a social agreement

that is my understanding

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