LFoL 3 - Day 4 (1/17) - THE LYING DARKNESS AND THE POSSESSOR WIN

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#1021

If the prince and observer are revealed the PoE is down to 4-5 people.

#1022

That is what I considered this world too, the sword would indicate these are starting roles, the same goes for the unseen starting MM and Ass/MS

King and Prince have swords, it would be first time in forum of lies game to start with two kings and hypothetically shares a slot of spawning a prince instead.

#1023

Neither the prince nor the observer should reveal themselves. If the prince is in this game they should consider investigating the PoE slots, even if they don’t execute I believe Jail is a roleblock which will still interfere with evils’ plans. The observer can do whatever idk

#1024

Problem is nobody has claimed jailed. It’s possible the 3rd kill was a jail-exe on probably gravekeeper if anyone (You can’t execute the king and kande’s logs don’t claim the jail)

#1025

What If they planned to push their MM, exppecting their role to be changed? (It’s unlikely, but It’s a possibility, isn’t it,)

Or we could have 3 starting unseen, and with the skinchange the “new” bodysnatcher would probably be the newest unseen member in case MM is killed. (Although this tactic also needs an early MM push to be rewarded, tbh.)

#1026

Inprobable as well

#1027

Changed? Like can you explain in your words?

#1028

I feel like by virtue of the fact that the convert is a convert it would make sense for them to be the newest unseen member, even at the start of the game as a starting evil. They’re converted to the cause but the other two were always a part of it

#1029

Plus Helsing cant be assassin either.

This also requires to guess, I can imagine Jackie is easily killed and Kande claimed support related.

So then who killed Gravedigger.

#1030

Doesn’t “carry the mission” from MM’s passive change the players role?

#1031

We can’t rule that out, the assassin could have technically chosen a roleblocking ability-

actually no, you’re right, they wouldn’t be able to multitask a roleblock and a kill.

#1032

Considering that starting mastermind and assassin has list of 3 abilities to pick, starting converted role is inprobable in the setup.

#1033

Well we have to theorycraft around the bodysnatcher, which is a convert

#1034

We know there was a starting converted role it was the bodysnatcher?

#1035

Actually, the day 2 vig is most likely coming from converted paladin and I have hunch who that might be.

John.

#1036

VOTE: John

PoE + Lupin claims to have something that clears widow, I would like to hear what that is whilst voting this slot

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#1037

Hmm, I was hoping Glinda is the original assassin with bodysnatcher ability thus able to mask their true role as they take over somebody else.

But would the assassin card with

Showing up in the flip?

#1038

Hmm but is it possible John is mastermind?

#1039

If possible, it would be best to let the prince take care of potential converts - if we execute them the “convert” cooldown comes into effect overnight and they might be able to replace their convert immediately, if it dies at night we have a day where they are down 1 member guaranteed

#1040

My hypothesis is that he is likely to be paladin converted into templar who used to killed Warlock