You are incapable of pressuring wolf Achromatic as you are now.
Zorvo/Achro. I’m willing to bet you’re both villagers for now. Way more sure about Zorvo at the moment though. Cooperate instead of butting heads.
achro IC he ought to be top town for everyone atp imo
If it makes anything better, I didn’t feel pressured to unvote. The reason I initially unvoted was bc what Achro was saying made sense. However, you also brought up a good point, Zorvo (which is why I revoted). I think it is good to vote for pressure, but Achro’s point really stuck with me: I shouldn’t sit and wait for lol to respond as there are other wolves out there
Not even close. I’d say Zorvo is my toptown.
No worries. Mafia is inherently a game of conflict and I said I would teach Zorvo how to win as town after he was so sad following his last game where he led town down a disastrous path.
It might take a little roughing up though for him to get the message. Fret not, I won’t hit anything vital.
As for my thought about you possibly being scum, I don’t understand why me defending lol = bad unless you have lol as scum for some reason @Zorvo
Did you have lol as scum prior to my “defense”? I can look it up.
I’d need to consult his past games to be sure, but in Starcraft I remember Zorvo struggling to form impulse reads as an evil player and defaulting to attacking his teammates as a last resort. He usually either passively followed the gamestate, tossing out original scumreads but not actually pursuing them, unless he feels like he’s on the block in which case he’ll try to shove someone else over. He struggles to push agenda on villagers is what I mean, which can be seen by how quiet he was in endgame in spite of being the top townread player and lone wolf.
I might be off-base here but that’s what I remember.
This is the book I have heard on him before, it makes more sense that he is town here who just thought quickly and made a decision on what was bad vs good. Thought it prudent to at least confer.
Thanks, Magnus.
For what it’s worth, Zorvo feels the same as he has in pretty much the start of every recent towngame he’s had.
I feel good about this game. I feel like I am in a prime position to be the n1 unless I have erred badly in reads. Then I get to watch the game unfold for days pulling my hair out.
Although Wild West taught me bad reads aren’t enough to save me from death tbh
Why would you want to die?
The greatest honor a villager can know is being so feared by the wolves that at the first opportunity they kill them in their sleep.
I wear my n1 deaths like a badge of honor. All told throughout my mafia career I have died n1 over 250 times.
That’s crazy but also respectable lol
UNVOTE
I think you have to say the name of who you are trying to unvote (could be wrong) unless I am misinterpreting this message. Are you telling me to unvote?
I’m not 100% on all my impressions, but I have a pretty good feeling Zorvo and Achro are towns butting heads. Just following the conversation, I don’t really think either of them are particularly wolf-like. I trust Zenon to an extent, but I don’t have any real reasoning for that other than vibes because I’ve just tuned back in to the convo. Magnus is offering good insights, I feel, so I’ll set my sights elsewhere.
Huh, what? No. You don’t have to put a name. If you click the hammer, you can see my vote is gone.
You don’t need to type the name in to unvote.
Anyway time for reads again.
Merpy - I think this slot is basically always town unless a hidden monster is lurking somewhere. This is extremely high confidence and only a couple of things could shake me from this (but those are a secret)
Zorvo - Seems to be in his town meta, even the parts of that meta I don’t like. I think Zorvo is pretty polarized and he might need to explain better why apparently defending lol is so bad but I am pretty confident that he is town
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Litten - Litten turned on the jets and also I think it is out of his scum range to suggest being made King today. He seems to be having fun and playing loose which is the town Litten I know. However it would be terribly rude for me to let him off the hook as King so despite me now town reading him he still must choose correctly or die he made his bed now he must lie in it. This is what I call ‘fun optimal’ @Litten
Leafia - I understand some of the complaints about Leafia, but she seems more aggressive in her willingness to die than she ever has as scum and I thought her reaction to my vote was pretty good. I guess I should respect her enough to not hard shield her since I was wrong about her once, but at the same time I do want to say my FAM read while incorrect also had mitigating factors like it being a game with 60 people, me not backreading much (@Magnus calls this my b game/personality) and also I was busy murdering almost literally every other wolf in the game for 3 days. So with all that said, I’m confident Leafia is town and if she is scum THIS time then she really did have a great day 1 from my perspective and I have to rethink how to read her. No passes for me for a large game this time if she’s howling @Leafia
Tutuu - They feel as if they are boxing themselves into a corner with all of their town reads if they are scum, which is an unusual tactic to do and then try to walk back especially as someone who is extremely high volume. Apparently they are very good if they an win games on the syndicate so nothing can look past them but I would not worry about this slot until much further into the game if they are alive and town isn’t doing well. This being said, I WOULD 100% worry about that slot in that case. That’s my legacy on this player for sure. Fine for now, fine for a few days, but if alive and struggling this could be the cause of it. Don’t take this warning lightly if that situation comes up and I’ve been dead for days, please.
Of 14 people I need to read, these are the 5 I am most confident are town at the moment with nuanced thoughts for all of them. I will let lol and zenon post and interact more with the thread before giving concrete thoughts on them, as well as Doodleshy. I think most others haven’t really done much ai to comment on either way and I hope to see more out of them in the latter half of the day.
Also Magnus has been OK so far.