Mountainous AMQ Game Over - Town Wins (2/15 Left) Thread 1

[MerpyDerpy]

Is it your birthday today?

[Achromatic]

Yes, if you look in my profile here I have a little cake and everything!

[MerpyDerpy]

Oh wow! Happy birthday!

[Achromatic]

Thanks!

I see you put lol back out into the ocean instead of keeping him on your line. Who do you think looks likely to be scum atm?

[Zorvo]

@Achromatic

I see you put lol back out into the ocean instead of keeping him on your line.

Merpy made it clear Achro that they didn’t wolf read them lol.

[Achromatic]

Zorvo what is your weird obsession with lol this game. I’m just making conversation.

[Zorvo]

What obsession?
Lol was in mention.

[Achromatic]

It seems like every time I mention lol to Merpy you have something to say about it.

I independently town read both you and lol so I don’t think it’s anything nefarious but you make mountains out of molehills any time I bring him up.

[Leafia]

Happy birthday too Achro.

@Arctic

happy birthday

we are gonna have two birthdays in this game cuz mine is on sunday lol

Very nice. Happy early birthday wish because I’m getting executed today. Just need to decide who gets executed tomorrow first.

@lol

also any reason is valid i could say my poop smells funny and vote arctic because of it and this is honestly a realistic scenario i like voting arctic for no reason

I think you’re safe from being my choice even if you vote me.

@Achromatic

Litten will tell us who to kill anyway

No one is taking this away from me Achro. The execution has already been decided. Me.

@Zenon

A lot of times I feel like people hate me…a lot of times they do. You are wonderful thank you.

How could anyone hate a wonderful person like you?

@Zenon

Probably because Demi is obvious town

How? She seems really scummy to me.

@Zenon

Well if I told you you’d stop doing it and that would suck for me

Why would a villager not acting wolfy suck for you Zenon?

@Zenon

I’m literally more confident than this on Demisha and Doodle so why are you town reading me?

No you’re not. She’s willing to bet her life. That’s the ultimate in confidance.

@Magnus

Demisha’s insistence that she’s not partnered with Arctic rings true and her reasons logically follow the thread of her behaviour, that being an immediate comment about wanting to have him alive late and people conflating it out of proportion.

Only time will tell whether or not you’re right about that.

@Zenon

Someone tell me why this post is wolfy go!

I hate it… so much.

I’m sorry if that was a bit harsh there.

@Zenon

I ask you Leafia. Did you shoot a rabbit once that I spent all day telling you was town?

If you remember, that was only one possibility that came with my action and I had to be sure. Also, how many scum have you locktowned D1 again Zenon?

Actually, let’s end this argument here. Demisha will be my chouce for execution D2 after I’m executed today as things are going unless someone can convince me otherwise.

@Zenon

Keep this vote on yourself till End of Day regardless of wagon state and I will choose to believe you.

That’s my plan. The power to control the D2 execution is so intoxicating! Mwahahaha! Besides, I figure the wolves will be less likely to vote me with these conditions so I’m going to suggest a chance @Achromatic my chouce of the D2 execution for when I flip town today can be literally anyone in the game. Not just the ones voting me.

@Zenon

• Your not being pushed hard enough for self executing yourself to be valuable to the thread state
• My reads on you and Demisha are independent of each other.
• You don’t regardless of flip will not change my read on Demisha
• Skill issue
• I don’t listen to the dead

None of these make it a fallacy because you’re only one person.

@Achromatic

You have limits i am a construct of the prinal force that helped birth the universe into being.

What are these limits you speak of?

@Zenon

The lack of wolfy motivation in anything she’s done.

Dies laughing You’re in the wrong game if you think Demisha hasn’t shown any wolfy motivation here.

@lol

this is stupid

How is it ever stupid?

@Zenon

Reads not at all like she expects people to focus on her less and more like she thinks it will change the opinion on Arctic when she flips town

What makes you think Demisha even wants to die? You’re literally confbiased beyond belief on both Demisha and me.

@Zorvo

I really don’t think Leafia is a hit tbh, it just doesn’t feel correct.

Don’t deny me the opportunity to decide the D2 execution Zorvo. I need this.

@Zorvo

Leafia can also be saved and we could try to vote out a wolf yeah.

Executing me will help catch wolves in the long run.

@Zorvo

Also if Achro is a wolf they can also be wanting to push this out in case @Leafia comes back around on Achro later and pulls out a good enough case on them to get Achro executed.

Why would I want him executed?

@Zenon

I bet you a million rupies Litten doesn’t die tomorrow even if we follow this horroble plan and kill a town.

Also this horrible plan will always kill like 2 towns bet.

Good news for you yhen. I’m the execution for today and I’ll be deciding the D2 execution.

@Zenon

Yes. And?

This read is awful Zorvo.

Your read on me is the awful one Zenon.

@Litten

I can see where you are coming from if you are town. However asking to die, day one, is probably not the best idea if you are town, and I suggest afvguallt doing stuff if you want to win

Unfortunately, I think this is for the best though to make people realize that they shouldn’t be so quick to trust Arctic and Demisha. Also, people will be able to analyze how other people approached my slot and it’ll help with figuring out their alignments. Besides, I want the power of deciding the D2 execution too much. This is sadly the way it has to be Litten. Or maybe happily because I’m enjoying myself way too much right now. Laughs

@Arctic

you uh, didn’t, though. you didn’t even acknowledged that I did in an earlier post of yours and idn’t respond to jormok’s wallpost and in fact you haven’t even mentioned him once the entire game.

You even acknowledged that I did in an earlier post of yours. The one that Zorvo brought up and you’re talking about the extremely big one where he listed reads on everyone, right?

@Achromatic

Please quote the post where you feel like you interacted with jormok.

Sure thing. I’ll find it right after posting this wallpost.

[Leafia]

Weird. I could’ve sworn I commented on it but I.guess I didn’t. I checked back which is how I realized that. I remember not liking it because it felt faked in a way and I did plan on commenting on it but I guess I forgot to. Oh well.

[Achromatic]

Would you mind quoting a few bits that you felt were fake and explain it?

[Demisha]

Good afternoon, gonna start backreading until I get caught up with thread

[Demisha]

I’ll be honest you actually make one hell of a point here. Like this is something I knew but never actually consciously processed and you’re so right:

@Zenon

Scum need to survive to win games. Their wincon is survival. Town meanwhile desire survival but their wincon is information in effect and catching scum. Town take more risky plays because they donut care about their life it has minimum value to them.

You’re so right, town doesn’t give a fuck if they die for the most part and you get to see that in how willingly they are to kill themselves to prove themselves sometimes (Of course, filtering out genuine attempts at this and non-genuine ones that would be wolves trying to show themselves that way and then backing off or doing it half-heartedly)

[Demisha]

Because by the time I posted that I was already posting other stuff that was substantial/relevant imo, whereas by the time you posted the thing I called overreacting you had mostly just commented on other people’s posts and posted standalone gifs, but I’ll admit that you calling that out is fair fglskldgjkfjkl it’s pretty on the wire on me being hypocritical about it >.<

I gave your posts from today a quick skim from bed and I can already tell I feel A LOT better about your slot but I’ll comment on that in a little

[Demisha]

They were, plenty

[Leafia]

Feeling too lazy to after looking back and seeing how long it was. I did notice he mentioned townreading me as a bad look and wolfreading me as a good look though and just has me down as wolf and it felt as if he was cherrypicking the things that would agree with his reads instead of looking at the whole picture. That’s what I remember thinking when I first read the wallpost.

[Demisha]

@Leafia

@Etha

i haven’t had much success playing as town in my forum mafia career (my previous game was my first townie game and i didn’t correctly read a single wolf)

what i’m currently doing is trying to match up people in same side/diff side pairs (e.x. demi and artic) and i’m probably just gonna hold onto those pairs until later when one half of the pair reveals

i’m also using a lot of trusting my gut

Willing to give Etha a townlean for now. This post sounds vaguely villagery to me after all.

@Leafia

@Etha

DO NOT FLIP HER DON’T LISTEN TO HER

Okay. Taking away that slight townlean. Why are you so certain Demi is town?

You’re so tunneled, you should start reading other people a bit more independently of “What do they think of Demisha” as the final outcome, it’s fine if you reach that conclusion for like a few people but this is definitely more than 3 people you heavily skew your read on because of how they think of my slot, and the wolf team is 3 players

@Leafia

@Demisha

As a player overall, I believe I mentioned around my first batch of posts in this thread that I really enjoy the way they do reads and solving and of course that wouldn’t be helpful if they’re wolf but I’d bet my life that Arctic is town

There’s literally no way a villager can be this confident on a slot this early.

Say what you will, I’m chilling drinking my apple juice knowing I’m not getting murdered by Arctic in literally any world and I sleep like a baby knowing I’m not a wolf

@Leafia

@Zenon

Well mainly cause every single person familiar with my game knows I’m fucking town but also because kingmaker is a stupid idea and if the people town reading me follow you onto me because of some dumb convoluted concept that gives no info I will lose all faith in the mafia community.

Going to hard veto a Zenon exe honestly. She gets to be my new top town because Zorvo is acting a bit weird. Still think he’s town, but not as sure any more.

This isn’t particularly relevant but interesting that you veto EXE your top town read instead of focusing on pushing your top wolf read above any other slot that you think has higher odds of flipping town than your top suspicion.

With that said I realized Drinks in my head flips town in a lot more worlds than the ones in which you flip town.

VOTE: Leafia

[MerpyDerpy]

It’s kinda complicated. To be completely honest, I still think lol is a wolf candidate, but I would rather put my vote toward something to help the town rather than wasting my vote on something that wouldn’t get pushed. That, and I don’t trust myself to lead a push

[Demisha]

@Leafia

False. I am willing to die Zenon. Try and prove me wrong. Maybe it’ll make people realize that Arctic and Demi are likely w/w. Also, if only one of them is a wolf, which is possible, it’s always Demi here with Arctic confbiased beyond belief.

VOTE: Leafia

Desperate

[MerpyDerpy]

I’m still thinking about my reads atm. I will get back to you on this, Achro (if I remember to)