Hmm…I guess, it may be misinterpretion then. But even after that the situation kinda seems sus.
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They can’t be informed if I don’t know the people yet
“I’m voting Leafia because others are voting Leafia” is still a reason and you don’t need tons of information to see something suspicious then point it out and ask questions about said person
I don’t know how to completely read Leafia, but I can ask questions and show what I think is suspicious
anyway, I should sleep for the night
Ik Gorta is confirmed but I’m really just paranoid why wolves have not killed him yet then?
The wolves have a kills economy, and Hazard hinted he might have held his item.
Does anyone know off the top of their head who Hazard said they might check?
I think he said it would be me.
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Nevermind.
I should make more use of my rolecard in the future. I forgot about that post.
It reads like a scumslip. Assuming that “kill = execution”.
You mean the one you quoted above? Well, gar kind of said I’m confirmed yet we should go for wiz so it was natural for me to get confused and ask that question.
Gar was referring to the Town as “we”, and the Mafia as “you”.
As in, “you” (the last wolf) can just kill (the confirmed) Wiz next.”
Also read https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/need-for-speed-most-wanted-sfm-d6-6-15/4395/3696?u=wizkvothe. Even gar used the word kill so I just followed him.
What? How would I kill myself? I’m confused.
Let me rephrase that. Gar was musing over a hypothetical addressed at the last remaining scum, and was asking them why they didn’t kill someone and, after Hazard “confirmed” you, just kill you the next night.
Gar was not suggesting Town execute you, but was wondering why the wolf couldn’t nightkill you. Yet you seemed to believe Gar was advocating for your execution, which feels like a red flag. In conjunction with your defensiveness about being roleblocked, your insistence that Mafia were trying to frame you, and wanting to keep the POE open as wide as possible… dunno, we’ll see what some other people say.
That’s fair, I guess. But yeah, I thought gar was suggesting to vote me out hence my question to him. I’m not sure if it’s wolfy but okay. Also, I think I have defended myself about other points in past phases so not going to re-hash them here.
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It’s safe to say that a team consisting of Leafia / Eliza / +1 most likely had each member acting more or less independently, without a major degree of strategy discussed in wolfchat. With this assumption in mind, I’m going to outline a theory.
Green = flipped villager.
Lime = proven villager.
Yellow = Jake.
Red = Flipped wolf.
I’m not going to say the wolves weren’t on edge during the first day, and especially not for Leafia, but while she was pressed to sway some minds very early on, there are decent chances that Eliza and the third wolf felt relatively comfortable.
From my perspective, there simply is a wolf between Lemon / Wiz / Lucifer; and in all honesty, Lemon probably is Town. Stew not voting isn’t AI; Lucifer voting Beancat along with Leafia and the two town leaders is blatantly sheeping, which they admitted to earlier today; Wizkvothe not voting probably means they felt they could blend in with the quieter players.
This is an interesting vote. Leafia was always going over, but there was a lot of resistance along the way. You could always just attribute this to Leafia’s dramatics, but… I think there’s more to this story. Leafia’s mocking last word is a scare tactic, she wanted Town to feel unsettled, and I think this could be a result of Town being on the right path.
If Lucifer is a wolf, not voting today is a sign of them being frozen. That’s possible, but it just doesn’t feel right to me. Honestly, I’m getting the vibe that Town engineered two wolf wagons on the second day, between Leafia and Wiz, and that’s why Wiz is voting Leafia here.
This is ultimately WIFOM, but I’d rather read into Leafia’s antispew than ignore it, so…
Eliza’s last word conveys a different impression. She seemed to have given up long before EOD, as if she didn’t feel as though she could fight the case against her. Still, she more or less outed wolf in her last post, which was made a full hour before EOD. No. This does not happen normally.
Lucifer was not the counterwagon at the time of Eliza’s execution; she voted Kiiruma when there were three other wagons, but the other two were Garfooled and Lucifer, so nothing practically changes. The time of Eliza’s last post conveys the impression that Mafia hold a tenuous position, but aren’t in such a terrible spot that Eliza desperately needed to fight to survive…
She was burned out from being outed, and she didn’t really bother to work up the energy. If she felt like she the last wolf, I bet she would’ve fought harder. (Which is entirely pointless to think about.) Neither Wiz nor Lucifer voted that day, which is kinda interesting.
Wiz and Lucifer voted together again please for the love of god why.
In any case, the last wolf didn’t give up on the spot. I’d actually want to check back and see who experienced a surge of renewed energy on this day.
Mafia killing the vocal players really killed the unity, looking at this votecount. Town were voting all over the place, and this is the kind of environment where a wolf thrives most. Actually, this VC possibly clears Lemon?
Scum continuing to push forward misexes incriminates Wiz over Lucifer, here… I think.
w!Luci not voting could mean they faltered after yesterday, I guess.
@Lemonfairy @Garfooled @Gorta what do you three think?
TL;DR: I’m willing to accept there’s a wolf between Wiz ~ Lucifer, and my eye’s on the former.
I told that during initial days of the game I was on a low internet connection area that’s why I didn’t vote. You would notice i was not that active in the beginning.
For the Eliza vote, I forgot to vote her cuz I slept although I knew she would obviously be yeeted so my vote would not have made any difference.
Except, it was not the town in general who pushed leafia. I don’t think there was a wagon on leafia when I asked her certain questions which looked wolfy and the way she replied to me was even more wolfish so I voted her. I feel it was not town but I who caught her. Although I’m not sure if she was pushed before I threw sus on her or not because ofcourse due to low internet connection i was not fully keeping track of comments.
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