Netrunner Mafia - Game Over: Mala Tempora

[Squirrel2412]

@Arctic

@Magnus

I wasn’t expressly expecting you or anyone else to bring up suspicion on Ninja, I just hoped someone might.

oh well consider my vote an invitation to everyone to discuss the slot because i want people to talk about them more as well

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@NinjaPenguin

In other news I’m really fucking confused at everything going on and reread the thread and I’m still very confused but like
Are people thinking that scum Eliza is trying to backpedal on a bad vote she got caught on? And if so why are you thinking this lmao it’s very easy to just say the vote is a joke as scum
if anything I’d read it town for drawing attention but that sounds like a stretch too weh

@Kanave

… Wha
I must be misinterpreting this, cause it looks like you just gave a reason we might be sring that post, asking why we’re thinking that and then saying it’d be easy for a wolf to do what we’re accusing them of doing

@NinjaPenguin

You’re going to have a fun time playing with me lol

And @Kanave am I reading wrong or are the scumreads not for Eliza saying the vote was serious? Which if so doesn’t feel like trapped scum lmao it’s free to back out without making some weird reaction test excuse

@Kanave

People were calling the vote bad, then when Eliza tried to backpedal thought the backpedal was worse from what i can see (that’s where i stand atleast)

@NinjaPenguin

Yeah I guess what I’m saying is I don’t think it’s a wolfy backpedal because a wolf can just backpedal saying the vote is a joke without feeling the need for something more convoluted
Like if she is someone who has played mafia before she should know it’d make her slot look less surface-level good why is she posting in a way that she knows makes her slot objectively look worse if she’s scum
I think you’re convincing me to fully tr her for this lmao

@Kanave

I disagree, Eliza had been talking about it for too long and doubled down on it for too long to be able to have claimed it was just a joke

yes

like i don’t think she could easily be like “Yeah i was joking when i clarified that i thought it was wolfy”

@NinjaPenguin

WAIT I THOUGHT IT WAS ELIZA WHO MADE THE JOKE VOTE ON CASPORE
Everything has changed brb rereading the thread

^the realization

@NinjaPenguin

Yeah no that is a wolfy backpedal lmao disgregard me
tl;dr stop all having anime girl avatars smh

@ElizaThePsycho what sorts of reactions were you intending to get out of this reaction test? Both in the best case scenario and did you actually get any of them

I’m still up in the air
part of me thinks that the stuff before the realization is tmi on eliza’s slot
otoh the pivot felt genuine

[Magnus]

@Flygon

I have a secret wolf read that becomes almost lock wolf to me on an Arctic wolf flip tbh.

Secret reads aren’t really helpful, tbh. The only reasons to wait are if you want to gather more evidence beforehand (in which case you should just say it), you want to take them by surprise (which means they’ll probably look worse either way) or you don’t want them to be pushed yet.

[Squirrel2412]

this isn’t a fully fledged out thought btw

my laptop’s almost dead so I gtg pry soon

[Arctic]

@NinjaPenguin

But the thing is that Guava didn’t explain what was wrong
Guava didn’t respond at all to the answer to their question and it wasn’t to make a read
A townie can want clarification on thought process but that’s because they plan on doing something about it
It’s scum who ask questions and don’t care about the answer because scum don’t ask questions thinking about the game they ask them to look like someone who is thinking about the game
Reread Guava’s interaction with Caspore and it’s textbook how to pocket a player who SRs you. Say “let’s talk” and give them a TR but not one that looks easy, and expect them to reciprocate

I uh intended on reading past this point but I just realized my plans for tonight were earlier than I expected so I can’t do the ISO dive I was planning on but I’ll get to that and respond to stuff after this point in the morning if I can sorry for being so busy

i read over the posts and like… while i do think guava actually townreading caspore for that logic is dubious i don’t think it’s a big of a deal as you’re making it out to be nor does it come across as pocketing, but i don’t think this discussion is going to go anywhere. i’d like to know how the rest of your reads have developed when possible

@guavagudetama

SHE OBVIOUSLY WASN’T GOING TO STOP TOWNREADING ME

is this meant to say scumreading

@Flygon

VOTE: Arctic

who could have seen this coming

@Squirrel2412

otoh the pivot felt genuine

TIL otoh means “on the other hand” and not “off the top of my head” and as a result several of my posts in previous games have not made any sense and yet this has never been pointed out to me. cool

[Arctic]

i’m in a weird position where i think most people have bad reads but at the same time this feels kind of unfair to say when i don’t really have any confident scumreads myself so i’m basically silently dvc warrioring even though i’m in the game

if we miss today we’re in mylo/lylo as well. which is fun.

@Dum is today the day we’re going to get some actual reads from you? i’m curious to hear your thoughts.

[guavagudetama]

@Arctic

is this meant to say scumreading

It was actually meant to say “she wasn’t going to start townreading me” but yeah basically

[Magnus]

Dum was replaced by Wazza.

[Arctic]

…

not my proudest moment

[Kanave]

Shending was the Vig Shot, my bad town

[Kanave]

dont have time to back read rn, will be back in hopefull less than an hour

[Magnus]

You’re alright, don’t worry.

[Kanave]

lol why is guava voting me

[Kanave]

@Flygon

Before I give some certain thoughts I want to know who Kanave shot.

Shending, don’t want to keep qouting this but making sure you saw

[Flygon]

@Magnus

Flygon, hold on. Were you townreading Squirrel last night, why would you try to appeal to him second ? Squirrel wasn’t even online at the time.

I was just pinging everyone that town read me tbh.

[Kanave]

@guavagudetama

wait this is so gross what
how did I not see this before ummmmmmmm
and it was to Kanave??? okay maybe I need to reevaluate my reads from EARLIER TODAY

unironically i almost shot flygon over this

[Magnus]

That would’ve been a bold choice.

[Kanave]

Percisely why i didn’t, cause im a coward

[Kanave]

@Caspore please do not like posts when dead^^

[Kanave]

@guavagudetama

My problem is you don’t like where Arctic placed his vote, then followed suit. There isn’t an angle here that isn’t hypocritical. “He started it” is not an excuse. You can’t get mad at him for voting what you voted, that’s not fair.

Strong disagree here, the person who starts a push has a lot more to blame for the push than the followers, why they voted and how has a large impact on the motiviatio behind it

[Kanave]

oh okay guava is just sheeping Ashlyn,
I’m not going to have it be a point against Ash but it IS a point against Guava if they’re agreeing with the tone read on me, they should know better than that.
That being said I don’t really see any advantage in fullclaiming here? I already told yall my shot and you know that if i’m a wolf i’m like, always 1 shot here, I don’t see any benefit in outing it now. Makes the wolves more uncertain if they have to go for me.

@Ashlyn

and they agree to shoot who the towncore tells them to shoot

I pinged the most TR people and barely got any response