Omega Strikers FM - Saboteurs and Dissenter Win

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#1086

I think that’s exactly it. You’re one of those players that I’m confident is town but I can’t really make any headway with convincing. Juno/Dubu were sort of in the same category but I’m more confident in you being town over the “chaos faction” crew. You’re pointed like me so I get it.

I’m essentially at hammer and had some spiel written out but decided not to post it because it seemed demoralizing even if I think it’s true but ill post a bit of it anyway. Essentially I think if I’m lynched the game is probably over because Juliette/Kai were almost certainly both town. There won’t be another opportunity to gain momentum against a slot like wolf!Atlas’ as he is able to print out information that’s either false or demoralizing. On top of that, I’m sure you’ve noticed that there’s actually a line behind me for lynches. Drak, the holstering vig is one, Era has been pushed significantly all over the place, Ai.Mi and of course, my lynch could be used as spew against Estelle.

The only question I’d have is whether Atlas marks me as green or red. green would be easier but red puts him in the driver’s seat for future lynches. in either case, he isn’t removed from this game.

#1087

UNVOTE

#1088

To clarify on “the line behind me” I’m 100% confident that Estelle is town, just am and I doubt I’m being taken for a ride. I wrote in #954 about how I’m 99.9% sure Drak is town. Also that other post I just sent you talks a bit about it.

Those are 2 of the 4 I mentioned (probably could have argued X there too) who I think are lined up to be killed immediately after. If I can’t wrangle control of the game back, from my perspective it’s a slow-motion fall off a cliff.

#1089

So wait what is a rough picture of your worldview?

It seems you have myself, Estelle and Drak as your top town, then Juno/Dubu as the next tier, the reset are POE and your push on Atlas is coming from a place of wanting to turn the game around?

#1090

rest* are

#1091

Because you don’t care how you are perceived

#1092

Without nuance in their little hierarchies, yeah thats roughly my worldview.

Turning the game around, first and foremost, involves me trying to not be killed lmao. And yeah, I think Atlas is scum. Not just “subtract everyone from a list” scum, but I think his whole thing about Kai was howling.

I guess if I were a wolf “turning this game around” would also follow the lines of self-prez but I definitely wouldn’t be going for Atlas in that case.

#1093

If you want my top 3 PoE as far as worldviews go, Atlas, Era and Juno in that order. I can’t really look for a dissenter because I think they’d act just like a town (would probably resolve in a F3/F4.) And I admittedly haven’t done dog shit in regards to scum pairing. Most I think I did there was say “well, Estelle and Era definitely aren’t on a team.”

#1094

Can you talk to me about the nuances in said hierarchies, especially the thoughts you have on the people in your POE?

I think I’ve seen a lot on Drak from you, but it seems earlier you had Juno/Dubu as “yeah I’m not sure they’re wild” to now they’re townleans?

I’m not married to killing you today, am rereading now and going to try and see you from a villager who may have gotten in late, also thinking about waiting until tomorrow to lunch because today’s lunch is crucial

#1095

Plus there’s really a lot of ambiguity on certain slots that makes pairing hard right now. For all I know, Atlas+dubu or some shit with a Estelle dissenter could be the world we’re in.

#1096

Haven’t read a word since my last post

I’m fine with voting out Rune since they seem determined to be horrendously wrong but I’m much more confident that Drekar is a hit

#1097

Well, for starters X doesn’t give me scum vibes tonally at all. I originally had him alongside Kai for how I read them.

Ai.mi was towards the bottom D1, rose early D2 and now I’m just on the fence if they’re lost town or a wolf because of the vote from Estelle to me. It’s a real concern fmpov because I was kind of counting on their support. But if their two candidates are between me and my top townread and they themselves are a wagon candidate, I don’t see a resolution rn assuming Aimi is also town. If they’re a wolf, I guess it makes sense. Just gridlock, really.

Dubu is a tricky one to read. Might be town but I’m not going to say a lowposting wolf couldn’t slam a few takes and go about his business. I’ve seen it enough times but it’s not my concern atm.

Juno, waiting to hear back from. When I start investigating pairing I’m going to look at them first starting with their posts before I pushed Atlas.

#1098

Something about the Ai/Estelle interaction earlier pinged the hell out of me

#1099

The switch to me or their conversation or both?

#1100

Popping in to say I would really like waiting til tomorrow to lunch. If we could agree on a time (even in the morning) I’ll get up and get some thoughts out there, be engaged, etc. I have so much more time when I’m not dealing with my job, or exhausted from dealing with my job lol.

#1101

Can you explain why I’m horrendously wrong?

#1102

my brain is fried again but good news it still says rune is town

#1103

We don’t have room for a shrug lunch at this point, we need to hit a Saboteur so if Drek is screwing us or you think someone else is a Saboteur, turn it on please

#1104

Just to clarify, we win if we kill all the main scum. The desserter doesn’t actually need to be killed

#1105

I follow, we’re just tight on misses and I can’t presume NAs will go where they need to