I’ve been told I need to make 15 game-related posts to not get in trouble.
1/15
I did acknowledge the fact you thought it often came from wolves… I meant how it applied to me more specifically. It being a thing wolves often do doesn’t mean I am a wolf doing it, does it? If you think it does, then you should have more specific reasons for doing it than applying a general tell, which is also something wolves often do. Do you see how that works?
13 left after this one.
2/15
Yes! Let us fight!
I am eagerly anticipating your response to my previous criticisms as I catch back up.
I have Juliet’s as a town read right now after reading their posrs
7 more to go
Maybe I should rephrase this… general tells are all well and good, but applying them in context is important, and when you apply one in context, you should have something more to explain the read than “this tell applies here, therefore this person is X alignment.” I know you didn’t strongly accuse me, but that is why I asked - it seemed like you were just using a generic tell to read me instead of thinking “hm, Era is posting in a way that fits this tell, but is there anything that makes her certainly a wolf doing it?” There was no step 2 in that thinking, only a step 1.
I’m not sure why you want to fight me so badly… I don’t even want this to overwhelm the thread. But that was my intent. And I’m not sure why you want this to be a conflict. Do you still think I’m mafia? If you do, why is that?
I think it’s a bit lazy but I’m trying not to be too harsh because
- it’s on me and as a rule I’m trying to be open-minded toward sus on me instead of just assuming the person’s a wolf
- I can see Estelle latching onto a generic* wolftell just for the sake of getting things rolling
- In the world where Estelle is town, I want to make wolves work for the mislunch
The one thing that gives me pause is how Estelle came back and said something to the tune of, “I reread Lune’s post and I want to ask what they even meant by ‘the right amount of caution.’” There was just a kinda sloppiness to it and usually wolves will have the reasoning at the forefront of their minds when they make a push as opposed to coming back to the thread like, “oh I missed this part that makes the person scummy.”
Basically this is similar to what Atlas said about Estelle moving the goalposts but it’s a thought that moving the goalposts might be towny because in my experience townies tend to be less organized than wolves
Then their response to me where they doubled down on their initial sus that has me seeing some stubbornness to their approach. I’m ruminating on the possibility of it being towny stubbornness. The read is still developing and they could simply be a wolf as is being explored right now, but this is me thinking on the other possibility
I also want town to know that all of my reads/thoughts are a lot more fluid than they probably appear
- = when I say generic I don’t mean this in a negative way, I just mean the concept of having those general tells for both scum/town we all have
I suppose that some of it could be explained by it being early into the game when you were making the read, but even so, I found the depth of thought lacking and so I probed.
I have nothing more to respond to.
This part is towny.
And so is this part. This is self-awareness, but it’s about her process and not about her thread position.
I don’t know if I agree yet, but the posts themselves are towny, I think.
I will read your posts in a bit Estelle but I appreciate the responses and if you are a competitor, I will do my best to find you. Just skimming, your tonal responses make me step back a bit, but I will have to read your responses with due diligence.
The elephant in the room no one has talked about yet and I thought Atlas would as our calm leader, but how should we go about the day time and the voting? Anyone has any thoughts on how long we should cap ourselves for day and when a good time to hammer would be?
Secondly, any thoughts on certain roles that should at least live to the next day just based on their utility? I know it may seem weird, but for optimal reasons, if certain roles are competitors, that would be a huge mech boost for us and +ev to keep. So I am wondering if anyone feels the same way about that, or if it shouldn’t matter the role?
My current GTH read on Era is very slightly competitor. While I think their reaction to my criticism of their slot was superficial and feels like they didn’t even read my post. I can understand having a short temper with those that cast doubt towards ones moral character. And the other points that Era has made in particular towards Estelle felt probing and combative in a townie manner.
Era is officially my mason. Melding pretty hard with reads right out of the gate.
I will say Era that you seem to be way more comfortable than you were about 2 hours ago? If you feel that way, why is that you think?
Forgot to add this
VOTE: Era
I think that Era town-locking Atlas in #145 was opportunistic and out of place. The game began a little under 3 hours ago and Atlas presented reasoning as to why Estelle could be scum. Instead of discussing it, Era just jumps to a town-lock and sheeps the vote with nothing to add.
Yes, I agree that Atlas is pretty towny but not because he made a push.
Actually. No.
This prompted me to double check what happened to Era’s probing into Estelle, and it dissolved simply because of a misunderstanding of whom Estelle was talking about?
And Era’s points about me feel like they weren’t reading my post?
That’s two strikes against Era for superficial takes that really shouldn’t have happened had they been reading more closely. I retract my previous GTH. GTH Era is a saboteur
In fact
VOTE: Era
Hah, I beat you to voting Era.
mildly villagery nuance
You have failed to provide me with additional ammunition to attack you with, and so for now I have no choice but to reconsider. Do not get comfortable with this temporary peace, for I am quite easily provoked.