Omega Strikers FM - Saboteurs and Dissenter Win

[Estelle]

With regards to my previous thoughts on Drek’ar and the thread

Thought it was weird that they immediately stopped interacting with me, and moved onto something else because they were bored. I also thought that Atlas has an easier time this game because they are using roleplay to guide their thoughts. I immediately had a snarky response in my head when they talked about how “this isn’t an organized way to win” - this setup is notorious for losing you the game when you try to organize stuff.

I read Drek’ar accusation towards Luna and then reread what both Luna and Atlas has said so far. I think that town reading someone early on is something that scum feel pressured to do, and I also think their reason sounds good but just isn’t when atlas play so far feels easy to do.

VOTE: Luna
I am not listening to class cause I am already getting sucked into this game ama

[X_OS (X)]

Townreading Atlas Drekar and Juliette on vibe.

[Estelle]

I reread it again and what does right amount of caution even mean?

[Juliette]

Sorry for the abrupt absence. My digestive system needed to be filled and I had some rice and meat. Yum.

Going to study the film now and catch up.

[Atlas_OS (Atlas)]

Specifically, regarding the setup, you will have to forgive me as I haven’t participated in this league before. (This setup is new to me.)

More-so as I do not tend to lean into the mechanical performance in the league, preferring to let my calculative ability steer my performance.

[Era]

@Atlas_OS

VOTE: Era

I think I shall start things off here. I believe their early reactive approach is more in line with what I believe to expect from someone not inclined to play the league respectfully.

No, I just don’t like the spotlight. I’m letting others drive the conversation for that reason until I think I have something more meaningful to say.

That’s what I usually do… you can read the report on me if you don’t believe me. It says that as well.

[Era]

@Luna

Townreading Atlas, feel like they’re trying to engage people (me and Era) to feel them out while also having just the right amount of caution

VOTE: Ai.Mi

Don’t diss my sister yo, or maybe I’ll have to clap Drek’ar instead

The townread itself is something I could expect either alignment to give, but tonally, the post is towny.

@Drekar

Atlas comes across as stilted to me. Probably because they’re roleplaying.

He does? Can you explain why? I thought he felt quite comfortable in the role.

[Luna]

Does anyone look town to you?

Are you generally quicker to wolfread/sus someone than townread them?

[Asher]

Votecount

Luna (2): Drekar, Estelle
Era (1): Atlas_OS
Drekar (1): Luna

Not Voting (8): Ai.Mi, Dubu, Era, Juliette, Juno, Kai_OS, Rune, X

[Era]

@Drekar

Eras early posts do have a air of just trying to vibe

Can you also explain why that’s a problem?

@Drekar

Like someone who just wants to blend in, not step on toes, not stir the pot so to speak.

The game has only just begun… I’m not going to make hard reads on everyone who has posted. Truthfully, I don’t even have that many. I also think Atlas is towny, and I believe that Luna’s townread on him sounded towny. I think you’ve said some questionable things and that you’ve given equally questionable assessments, which is why I’m questioning you right now.

@Estelle

I also thought that Atlas has an easier time this game because they are using roleplay to guide their thoughts.

Wouldn’t that make them town? Or am I not understanding you correctly?

@Estelle

I immediately had a snarky response in my head when they talked about how “this isn’t an organized way to win” - this setup is notorious for losing you the game when you try to organize stuff.

This also sounds like you are talking about someone who is town for their actions, yet you don’t say that Atlas is town. Could it be that you already know that, yet you didn’t explicitly say that?

@Estelle

I read Drek’ar accusation towards Luna and then reread what both Luna and Atlas has said so far. I think that town reading someone early on is something that scum feel pressured to do, and I also think their reason sounds good but just isn’t when atlas play so far feels easy to do.

This looks like you are trying to prevent the townread from taking root…

@Estelle

VOTE: Luna
I am not listening to class cause I am already getting sucked into this game ama

And this part looks like you are trying to portray yourself as hyped.

@X_OS

Townreading Atlas Drekar and Juliette on vibe.

As a side note, this is towny. No frills, no attempt to sell those reads for more than they are.

@Estelle

I reread it again and what does right amount of caution even mean?

I’m not sure why you would say the things you have said about Atlas without having actually read what he was saying before…

@Estelle

Atlas has an easier time this game because they are using roleplay to guide their thoughts

@Estelle

atlas play so far feels easy to do

Yet you apparently didn’t understand some of what he was saying? Why would you say that if you don’t actually know what he’s saying?

[Era]

VOTE: Estelle

@Era

@Estelle

VOTE: Luna

I am not listening to class cause I am already getting sucked into this game ama

And this part looks like you are trying to portray yourself as hyped.

Not to mention the fact I think you’re voting a competitor.

Oh dear… looks like I am going to get spotlight after all. But I’d rather not be considered a saboteur or dissenter for avoiding it.

[Atlas_OS (Atlas)]

I will concur that X’s statement reads more like a legitimate competitor.

[Estelle]

This is ironic because I was talking about Luna not atlas, lmao.

[Era]

Oh.

I’m sorry for misunderstanding you.

UNVOTE

This is what I get.

VOTE: Drekar

[Atlas_OS (Atlas)]

I think Era’s response is enough to consider them legitimate for now.

VOTE: Ai.Mi

Both Drek’ar and myself noted the oddity about her, and I will consider it enough to pursue. I am avoiding commenting yet on Estelle/Luna specifically as I have thoughts but believe it will be better to organically play out before I make my move.

[Estelle]

I didn’t remember the exact reason when writing those thoughts, because I didn’t write it exactly after reading it. It was the general thoughts of what I remembered when reading it. And “sounding cautious” sounds good but I have no idea what that even means, it “sounds good”, but that’s just it

I’m in lab so reliesbe spordiac

[Era]

Did you not notice I was mistaken in my questioning, or did you not talk about that on purpose?

[Juliette]

Ok, read through and have a summary of some thoughts/questions.

I do agree somewhat with Atlas’s take that Era was a bit defensive hence reactionary in terms of responding to posts of others when being discussed about, but it’s not inherently wolfy to me.

Twofold, I actually townread Atlas for being high engaging so far and attempting to interact with players so far in a “calmly” manner as he states and like what Luna was saying. Additionally, even though I disagree’d with his scum read on Era, I think it comes from a townie mindset when evaluating the reactionness. The other thing I like is how Atlas was really the first person to come in with a read and more importantly a scum read. As Dre’kar/Era said, sabatours are more likely to come in with pressure to townread someone originally and I think Atlas coming in attempting to get things going with a sr and getting others to chime in is townie.

Also, I was a bit confused why @Drekar scum reads Luna? I saw Estelle discuss how they also agree with Drekar’s scum read on Luna but I didn’t see them really saying way.

I think X town reading the high posters plus me based on vibe at the time was a bit underwhelming and seems like one a sabatour could easily make. Seemed like a read to go with the flow, but I will await reasoning and explanations.

I did feel like Estelle’s thoughts Drekar’s reaction towards them in thread and on Atlas’s roleplay potentially helping them get more engaged within the thread feels more like just thoughts to say without actually giving any reads/significance behind them which is slightly scummy.

I also didn’t like Dre’kar’s accusation against Atlas and the claim of “stilted” just didn’t sit right with me, but I feel like besides that, Dre’kar has been ok, though I don’t understand their push on Luna.

[Era]

@Atlas_OS

VOTE: Ai.Mi

Both Drek’ar and myself noted the oddity about her, and I will consider it enough to pursue.

She is null to me for now. I don’t feel like her head is quite in the game yet.

[Juliette]

VOTE: Estelle