No, that sounds about right. Not sure why you find that unenthusiastic.
I feel like I am being lead around like a fool for Dubuās amusement here.
If that is the summary of your thoughts with no further elaboration then I shall drop this line of inquiry
I explained previously why I thought they were a good kill - not sure if you read it. Since you are here I would like for your thoughts on who you should think be executed today - I noticed that you put a vote on Juno. Can you elaborate more on why you believe that is a good choice
(Iāll like to note that Iām asking these questions to just figure out what you are thinking, since Jellygirl didnāt really get the whole idea when I asked them to clarify)
Also Drekāar, as much as I believe youāre a competitor, youāre not going to disqualify your chosen person without providing more than āIād disqual Juno here.ā
I mean, I also think we should hammer them, but Iāve already said that and I kind of doubt me expressing this thought directly to you will cause you to revote there.
I canāt say I wonāt revote there. The unvote was purely as a measure of āI am actively in thread interacting with people and I want to preserve that.ā
Iām going to be asleep by 5:00 AM. Atlas, whatās your plan with regards to the day? Feel like watching how Kai reacts to this wagon will actually be really productive in figuring out their alignment, even at the cost of sapping some time.
I was hoping theyād show up in theā¦ 6 or so hours since we started voting there. But doesnāt seem to be the case.
Iām loathe to risk more than 48 hours passing though.
Iām fine with giving them the 5PM mark as a deadline. That was my original suggestion for how much time we should dedicate to this day.
Iāve been really lazy on my town reads tbis game, the only ones that I thought rlly heavily on was julliet
no way am I in tbe mindset to actually think about my town reads tho, thatās gonna be like a morning thing/lunch thing if anything
I want more from Juliette. I greatly appreciate the verve and energy early but I feel like it has significantly dropped off. Not as bad for someone like Drekāar since they didnāt attempt to reverb through thread before that anyway.
I think my reasoning from last night deserves a restating and a chance to hold up to scrutiny, as it may have gotten brushed over, being in a giant wall of text that people probably skipped over the next morning, and it wasnāt laid out as a traditional case so much as a series of observations.
The long and short of it is that I think Era has been presenting themselves as something different than they are. There are two instances near the beginning of the day where I think this is especially true:
This is a perfectly nothing post, until taken within the context of Atlasā original accusation. Atlas voted Era because they believed their early approach was āreactiveā- AKA they saw Era posting emojis and not seriously solving in the first 50 posts of the game. I have no issue with Era doing that, I basically did the same thing. But I think in response to this accusation Era attempted to portray themselves as having a deeper meaning behind opening shitposts besides just opening shitposts. They say that they ādonāt like the spotlightā, implying that shitposting is a deliberate strategy in this instance, and also throw out a roleplay excuse āread the report on me if you donāt believe meā.
I do not believe either of these explanations explains Eraās early shitposting, I think they were just having fun (and I expressed at the time that I didnāt understand why Atlas found that objectionable). But attempting to explain this fun as something more than it was is what originally set off alarm bells about Era. In my opinion, this is an attempt to embellish their play, and make it seem more meaningful than it actually was.
The next issue I took with their posts came in #95 and subsequent posts. They tear into Estelle in an interesting way, and seem to be building confidence for a vote there. I like this energy from them, and they follow it up with #96 with a vote on Estelle. One of their points in #95
is countered by Estelle in #98. This causes Era to unvote in #99
I just donāt understand why this clarification is enough to make them change gears. They have a whole list of problems in #95 and #96 with Estelleās play, and the clarification doesnāt even seem related to their vote. To my understanding, they were voting Estelle because they believed Estelle was both performatively acting as town/engaged, and also trying to diminish the townread on Atlas. Estelleās clarification in #98 doesnāt address either of these points, unless Iām seriously misinterpreting it.
I think this interaction demonstates Era lacking serious conviction in this instance of scumhunting. And I donāt like that, because their laying into Estelle in #95 and #96 is, in my opinion, the two posts where they appear the most townie, and them not believing in their own work nullifies that moment.
Today more has happened, and Era has mounted a defense which is worth responding to and evaluating. Iām going to put my vote back on VOTE: Era for now though. These reasons still have it as my top wagon.
I want to touch on this real quickly before going back to your defense because the truth is no, I donāt. They havenāt given me much to work with. The lack of enthusiasm Iāve seen from town and scum. One stupid take I believe is that the unengaged lurking commentator candidate is usually funnier when theyāre town, and Dubu isnāt very funny. The flip side of that is why I like Juno actually.
Voting Dubu right now feels kind of like punting D1, and I think we can do better.
By the by, did we ever get an honest to god case on Kai? Iām missing it.
There was an energy they were bringing to the thread a little earlier I didnāt like. I was starting to look at them, Rune, Juno, and Dubu as slots in the game (as opposed to lurkers/literally absent), and I remember them feeling the worst of those 4 on vibe.
Reasons were stated but no individual case.
To clarify here, yes of course when youāre being accused youāre going to go on the defensive. This wasnāt an attack on you, this was me concluding my catchup thoughts.
I donāt view this as a good wagon to push, usually at least. Itās nice to have some pot stirrers, and Drekar hasnāt done anything particularly objectionable to my knowledge, though I do agree their play has fallen off, simply due to inactivity. But IME wolves can hide behind being agreeable as readily as they can behind being aggressive.
Please walk me through what point, because I have seriously read that interaction a half dozen times and I still donāt get how it countered any of your points. At the very least, any of your important points. I said before your two issues you had with Estelle seemed to be that they were performatively acting townie/excited and that they were trying to discredit the Atlas townread. That seemed to be why you voted him, and I donāt see how what Estelle said countered any of that. Where am I going wrong here?
This particular point was poorly stated on my part, I apologize for that.
Like I said in my more complete case, it is that you appear to be pretending to be something youāre not, first with your old reply to Atlas, and then with your case on Estelle that appeared confident but fell apart when it didnāt seem to have any part of it really torn apart.
What I am getting at here is that these kind of inconsistencies donāt bother me as much from someone driving solving, but for a player looking to build consensus, it coalesces together to present the image of a player attempting to move their way into a towncore by presenting themselves as something theyāre not.
I think ultimately I stay on Era for now. Some clarification about the situation with Estelle would be helpful with regards to how Iām viewing them, as if Iām misunderstanding here that takes out one of the pillars of this read. I think there are wheels here. I think Era is trying to slot themselves nicely into a circle of trust, and itās unnerving that they seem to be trying so hard to do so.
Can you elaborate on this. Why this setup specifically? Just because of the lost wolf?
Also Dubu was such a lazy āeh whatever, let me just vote somebodyā from Era and theyāve stayed pat there. I strongly suspect that if anyone had challenged them on that vote, they would have moved it soon after.
I remain unsure why this slot was getting many town reads to begin with.
There is a complete lack of communication between anti-Competitor entities, and only 2 makes it harder to use reinforcement to change the pattern vs 4 or more.
I had a weak townread for other reasons but as you may have noticed with my questioning that I find myself unsure of that read.