Omega Strikers FM - Saboteurs and Dissenter Win

[Dubu]

Personally, I think I’m hilarious.

I am not unengaged. I do lurk, but I don’t feel like a commentator, so you’re 1/3

and I’m 18/15

[Dubu]

Yes, look at their ISO. Find their bad post.

[Dubu]

@Rune

I’m gonna chalk up a lot of the Kai voting to directionless boredom.

You shouldn’t.

[Juno]

Towns perceive themselves to be the optimal D1 elim much less often than they actually are. We’ve all played games where someone gets hard POE’d D1 and digs themselves into a hole, and everyone else is like, “yeah, let’s just kill this player”… but rarely do they actually self vote, and if they do, it’s almost always a way to AtE more than anything. It’s just rare for someone who knows they have a green role card to genuinely view themselves as being the optimal elim, regardless of mechanics.

[Juno]

Would vote either Estelle or Kai without thinking twice.

[Dubu]

I do like lunch. Can we have Kaiamari?

[Era]

@Luna

I kinda think we have wagoned one wolf in Estelle/Kai but I need to reevaluate the former. She felt like a hit on the first night when Atlas, Era and Juliette were all voting her and I don’t know if she’s done enough to slip my POE

I feel like her posting has substantially improved, and she is also the top poster. I don’t want to disqualify this, especially not right now…

@Dubu

You shouldn’t.

Are you going to give an opinion here? Or… anything? Please stop being useless if you’re a competitor…

[Dubu]

@Kai_OS

luna is probably a villager but i have no idea why they are voting me (funnily enough you/luna is a wolf team i tinfoiled earlier and you just came in hard villa reading luna eheh)

sameish for estelle. tbh i ddint even see their vote on me

dubu suddenly caring to vote seems more wolfy than not but i cant really see i have a read on him based on his posting

juno i am just ignoring

I have always cared. I care about you Kai, don’t ever think otherwise.

[Juno]

I’m a vegan but I’ll make an exception just this once…

[Era]

@Juno

Towns perceive themselves to be the optimal D1 elim much less often than they actually are. We’ve all played games where someone gets hard POE’d D1 and digs themselves into a hole, and everyone else is like, “yeah, let’s just kill this player”… but rarely do they actually self vote, and if they do, it’s almost always a way to AtE more than anything. It’s just rare for someone who knows they have a green role card to genuinely view themselves as being the optimal elim, regardless of mechanics.

I see what you mean. I think I’m okay with disqualifying Kai now.

[Era]

VOTE: Kai_OS

[Juno]

I like how Era always just agrees with the last cogent argument they heard. It’s like having an extra vote that’s bouncing around all over the place, but you can steal it for your cause if you’re eloquent enough.

[Era]

@Juno

I like how Era always just agrees with the last cogent argument they heard.

I agree with it if it’s good.

[Dubu]

@Era

@Juno

• Kai thinks defensiveness is an overrated scumtell
• Kai thinks his role is the optimal D1 kill.

I still don’t understand why you think this makes him mafia… I thought his posts were fine enough. I don’t understand the wagon on him, either; I feel like people are just trying to disqualify SOMEONE rather than someone they are actually confident in being a saboteur (except Juno).

I think I would still disqualify Dubu. The way he approached the Kai wagon screamed of indifference and he’s had no other impact on the game… I guess he could be a competitor playing like this, but I really feel like he’d have started taking things seriously by now if he were one. He’d at least try to be towny… And while you might claim that he wouldn’t be playing like this as a saboteur, I think it’s possible this is a polarized player who randed antitown and can’t play it well, therefore trying to coast instead. Let me know what you think about this…

@Ai.Mi

The long and short of it is that I think Era has been presenting themselves as something different than they are.

Speaking of that… I’ve already admitted to playing a role here, didn’t I? I feel like you’re just ignoring that in your case against me.

Juliette described the situation with my handling of the Estelle push very well. Thank you <3

I am clearly different from indifferent. I don’t feel a need to try to be townie. Reasonable thoughts though.

[Dubu]

@Juliette

Holy shit. Kai had 6 votes…

Regardless of Kai’s alignment, there is likely a saboteur/Dissenter on that wagon.

If Kai is a miss and I know I am a competitor, then that leaves 4 of Era/Rune/Drekar/X and Era/Rune/Drekar likely contains max 1 based on interactions amongst each other unless there is a dissenter in there and then there is X. And in general, the odds of a wagon being pure there if Kai is a competitor is pretty low esp from my pov.

Even if Kai is a hit, there would still have to be 2 outside and I know I am a competitor.

That leaves Rune, Drekar, Era, and X.

Based off early interactions, we can rule out Rune/Era and Drekar/Era, meaning that one possible team outside could be Era/X/Kai which I suppose isn’t as impossible based on how Kai came in hard defending Era but I still doubt it because of my town read on Era.

I also explained the brief non partner interaction with Rune/Drekar when they both voted together on Era at the time they did and the response after.

So essentially, there is likely one max among Rune/Drekar/Era from a partner interactive perspective unless one of them is a dissenter. But even so, I town read Era and Drekar slightly. So that would mean another plausible team could be Rune/X/Kai but if that is not a team, then that further bolsters my opinion of that wagon on Kai.

So in my head there are low odds of 2 others outside of Kai even if Kai is a hit based on town reads and interactions amongst them. If Kai is a miss, then that just certainly boosts the fact that there is at least a saboteur on his wagon. I would say that also looking at it from a partner perspective that if Kai is a hit, the one person I would see fit in is X just based on the interactions/town reads unless there is a dissenter among Era/Drekar/Rune.

So I will likely attempt to read more on X tomorrow as well since depending on the read there, that would influence even more how I feel about that wagon on Kai.

But as of rn, my gut tells me that Kai’s wagon of 6 at the time had at least one saboteur/dissenter in it based on non saboteur interactions outside as well as the town reads on certain players that I have (Era/Drek’ar).

This post probably points to town, but for meh reasons.

[Dubu]

I’m calling for a hammer on a wolf in a game with only two wolves. Scummy my bummy.

[Era]

@Dubu

I am clearly different from indifferent. I don’t feel a need to try to be townie.

Well, if you are a competitor, then you don’t come across as one, at least to me right now…

[Era]

@Dubu

I’m calling for a hammer on a wolf in a game with only two wolves.

What makes you so sure that Kai is a saboteur? And yes, I’m aware that I just voted him. I’d like to hear it from you…

[Dubu]

@Era

@Luna

I kinda think we have wagoned one wolf in Estelle/Kai but I need to reevaluate the former. She felt like a hit on the first night when Atlas, Era and Juliette were all voting her and I don’t know if she’s done enough to slip my POE

I feel like her posting has substantially improved, and she is also the top poster. I don’t want to disqualify this, especially not right now…

@Dubu

You shouldn’t.

Are you going to give an opinion here? Or… anything? Please stop being useless if you’re a competitor…

I clearly have given an opinion.

[Dubu]

@Era

@Dubu

I am clearly different from indifferent. I don’t feel a need to try to be townie.

Well, if you are a competitor, then you don’t come across as one, at least to me right now…