Paradox Hazard - GAME OVER - MAFIA VICTORY!

What makes you unpair ash/marluna?

I think memeking is really villagery ftr but i could see all of the others as wolves yeah

I don’t recall by now but I backread and wrote this down, maybe I can find it later

VOTE: Name

VOTE: Name

where is the list

Players?

okie - lmk when you do find it cuz i actually would like to chat about that
i think ash/marluna have a lot of partner equity because they’ve been dancing around eachother
possible i missed something tbh

This makes me want to flip Ash and Hazard back-to-back

yeah ick

i am like really really averse to the reasoning that we have to kill someone “so they won’t get tunneled on” or to “resolve the wagons”

i had a whole rant on it in a game, gimme a few to read up here

i usually am too yeah - it’s incredibly lame
it’s just that in my experience every time i’m in this sort of situation on FoL it always ends up in a town loss if we let the person go

i don’t know that these are whelmingly towny posts, but i don’t hate them - if i look at them and ask myself, could a townie write this the answer is yes, last one in particular feels like a real thought hinestly

what i do hate is when the gamestate gets stuck around certain players and revolves only around discussing them, because in my experience that is a very pro-scum environment
. . we go and vote out Ash, he flips town, then what next? Do people just go after Hazard because shucks, if the first two Day 1 wagons were wrong, surely the 3rd has to be right? I hate that type of thing. It lets people stay out of the spotlight.

I don’t like eaves saying we should resolve Ash, I don’t like whatever Marluna is doing with their vote on Hazard because that defense of Ash is so weaksauce and the reasoning for voting Hazard stinks
that’s

i don’t know people need to play better then

i don’t know how to make them though

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ok the dot eg

honestly what if we did this
VOTE: Marluna

stupid?

i has ate lots dumbass puskppis

i so agree bestie

VOTE: Marluna

I’m going to explain something I believe in terms of theory of how this game is played. There’s this thing, called the Narrative. It decides who the leaders are and who the suspects or “POE” are. While it’s not always consensus, it represents the feelings as expressed by a multitude of players in the game.

The about the Narrative is that it has a tendency to stick.When a person’s name gets brought up as suspect in the early game, people tend to keep bringing it up. It has a way of sticking in people’s heads. Oftentimes it’s advanced by scum, because there’s a big juicy piece of meat in front of them that they don’t want to let slip away. And so that person’s name gets brought up again and again, and discussions are had about how it’s necessary to resolve them. How we have to clear the POE. They’re always going to be suspected so we have to do this.

And I believe that this is fundamentally bad play and pro-scum. I’ve seen it happen here, on MS, everyhwere. The Narrative is why towns lose games. It kills for two reasons: First of all, it creates an inability to clear or write off a player ever. No matter what a player does, The Narrative says they have to die in order to figure out what’s going on. It removes the ability of a townie to clear themselves and treats everythnng they say as fundamentally disposable. Second, it creates a screen behind which scum can hide. If they’re not part of the Narrative, scum can keep pushing people, telling them we need to resolve X Y and Z, and because people are so tunnelvisioned they ignore other players i the game. They leave blind spots. If you’re only talking about players who are part of the Narrative, you’re ignoring a chunk of the game, and all too often that is where the scum are.

Enough with the narrative. Broaden your horizons. I’m not going to tell you you have to townread Ash. But if your posts are primarily discussing Ash and how you think we need to resolve her, I’m going to assume you’re pushing Narrative. I want to hear other players discussed because it is harder for scum to produce a multitude of perspectives of then game and if the town actually investigates everyone and weighs their chances of being scum, our chances of winning the game are better.

that’s a rant i had from another game edited to replace the name of another player with Ash

i was right, the player i was defending was town

town didn’t listen and killed them anyway, we lost (in part due to my own horrendous tunnels but that’s another story entirely)

what i am getting at at any rate is that resolving wagons is fucking stupid