Paradox Hazard - GAME OVER - MAFIA VICTORY!

[Chloe]

i think ash has been somewhat villagery lately i just don’t know how to articulate it really
his surrender to my post about resolving him felt towny

[catbae]

@eaves

I’m starting to think Someone is a better lynch but I’m not gonna stop people lynching Ash in case he’s actually mafia

wow i hate this

[catbae]

also i have a thought about User Someone that has been percolating in my brain for a while but i want to be sure i’m caught up first

[catbae]

@ash4fun

Unfortunately I’m gonna be on mobile most of today, and also have a flight so I’ll be awol for 6h in 3h

So no catchup wall.

I was alternately packing/rotting last night, so read the whole Chloe/eaves interaction, but I found myself sheeping catbae’s sentiment, so didn’t think I had anything more to add: eaves is believably deepwolf, but no sense in using the exec on that soon.

my sentiment was the opposite of eaves being deepwolf - her reasoning around bystander being town felt sincere even if it was total moonlogic to me

i do not like how she is posting about Ash though

[Chloe]

@ash4fun who are the wolves if ash is town?

[catbae]

@Ash

Ya’ know what, screw it.
What is off about my performance this game?

@Ash

No one else intervene here. I want to see his logic.

yeah this is a fucking townie fuck this lmao

[Chloe]

ugh i want to kill eaves again

[catbae]

@Someone

Ash/Marluna is weird tho idk how to feel about it, feels almost like both of them want credit for susing/being sused the other one but neither want to vote each other.

this doesn’t look remotely like what they are doing

marluna in fact defended Ash, though not very convncingly

@Someone

VOTE: Ash

and of course

[Chloe]

@bystander what are your thoughts rn who were you trying to vote earlier?

[Chloe]

@ash4fun

Preflipping ash w (which I feel reasonably safe doing) I think I’m currently at

bleh how are you this confident

[catbae]

@Someone

I was roleblocked last night

@Someone

I got the roleblocked message

@Someone

Wait did I fuck up

@Someone

Yea that is true, but like I cant be anti claimed from that right

@Someone

I got no problem being night killed

@Someone

Like I would argue im prob more sus then average so its fine

@Someone

I mean I would appreciate not being roleblocked tho its really annoying

this sequence was bothering me and i couldn’t figure out why but after a day away i thought on it - why does someone claim being roleblocked here? there’s no conceivable protown benefit to doing so - it just opens you up to being interfered with by mafia

and as someone (no pun intended) whose primary interest in the game is mechanics, i find it puzzling he’d make a bad strategic play like this. outing being blocked just makes you more likely to get blocked again. so what was he hoping for?

and it got me to thinking about posts like this in BG3:

Summary

@Someone

I was lightly sus of you because of my mech, but im highly sus of zone now

@Someone

Yes but do you see why I think Zone is evil from it

@Someone

I have 2 abilities how tf does he double me in shit

@Someone

I start knowing that some evil players want to be visited by good players

@Someone

So when I saw kiiruma basically try to get as many people on him as possible

@Someone

I was immediately suspicious of it

and i think this is just what someone does - he hides behind mechanical claims to try to make himself look town and plays up his cluelessness

and that struck me as what his motivation was for claiming to be roleblocked SoD2, to get people to think he was towny for outing it

[Chloe]

yeah i just re-read all of Ash’s recent posts he seems like a villager

[catbae]

also like

there is no way in hell a mafia roleblocker ever targets User Someone here

maybe a town one does but i’m not even sure about that - he could just as easily be making it up entirely (and obv getting RB’d by town is not clearing)

[ash4fun]

gth, marl/bystander/(??someone/hazard/(eaves/catbae))

I feel like the first two are the most individually scummy. even though a lot of marls seemed w/w ash, with v ash it still feels more tmi than natural

I know some in the last one are likely unaligned with the first two, but with ash v I feel like I’d have to throw all my association out the window

[Chloe]

lmfao you put catbae in there thats villagery
bro is the most obvious villager itg outside of leafia

[catbae]

it’s literally only ever town that is paranoid of me

every game

[ash4fun]

ik you mentioned a few posts after that I haven’t really looked closely at, but I feel that since the start of today they’ve been openwolfing. At the very least, if they’re town, they’re not interested in not being miselimed.

but lemme look back at those posts you quoted

[catbae]

@ash4fun

but I feel that since the start of today they’ve been openwolfing.

how

@ash4fun

At the very least, if they’re town, they’re not interested in not being miselimed.

getting tunneled into the dirt will turn anyone defeatist

but from what i can see he is still trying to actually provide meaningful content and not antispewing

[ash4fun]

sorry, it was catbae who quoted them

[catbae]

also yeah not to get too deep into selfmeta here but as scum i never fucking try to derail this vote on Ash because it’s totally self-defeating

unless you want to argue i am exactly scum with Ash but then Day 1 never plays out the way it does