Paradox Hazard - GAME OVER - MAFIA VICTORY!

[bystander]

mafia.gg u can barely read cuz peole just keep tryping

[eaves]

“One of me and Chloe,” “I don’t think it’s me”

[Chloe]

@Chloe

literally nearly getting to the point where i will thunderdome

@eaves

I don’t know why but I feel like I won’t lose against you

@eaves

Oh yeah, I actually won’t. You’ll be surprised why

i still wanna know what this means btw
are u vengeful or smth lol

[eaves]

Why are you roleguessing and no I’m not

[Chloe]

vengeful would be a mafia role lol im just trying to figure out why u think u’d win a dome

[eaves]

Oh I didn’t know. Hmm, I just will

[bystander]

ic reveal while hammering urself

[bystander]

i think im very findable now ftr

[catbae]

wtf

[catbae]

@bystander - are you…okay?

[Chloe]

Yay my anchor is here

[catbae]

@Someone

I didnt target the same person both nights, its not me being roleblocked by my target or anything like that

mmm

do you want to say who it was you targeted?

[catbae]

sup

[catbae]

@bystander

i feel like memeking is very much ignored

whether for good reason or not eh

@bystander

i get the feeling he kinda got settled in and ppl townread him and he just felt fine to fall off later

i think overall he’s sounded pretty genuine in his contributions without a reread

that is an archetype i tend to give a free pass to a little too easily but i don’t really think i want to go after him today

[catbae]

@Memekingpizza

Okay! Time to backread. Have been busy but for my understanding what is POE? So I can get a better understanding of certain conversation and reads without losing it’s meaning half way through.

@Memekingpizza

Okay besties. I think I got the jists of what’s going on and I don’t know how to add onto it. So I’m going to be talking about more mech talk ish and possible things we could do going into the future because that’s my specialty of playing social deductions games. Putting the deductions in the name. First thing I got to bring up is the Paradoz Hazards that will happen probably. Will we say if we got into one or keep that secret.

@Memekingpizza

A benefit of saying is to guage the amount of ammo the mafia might have plus it might shed some light on pairs of people that should be agreeing with others stories. But the downside of that is that mafia knows we were in one and that two roles don’t match up and it’s easier to guess and it’s a guess they might land easier if they go that route.

@Memekingpizza

But a reason to not say it earlier is to have stories that people can’t back out of and making them much more airtight though. But the thing is the dead can’t speak and we don’t know if they are in the paradox or mafia might be claiming to be in it. But besides of possible fake claims people could pick up if we don’t claim frame one but it makes it harder for mafia to guess roles meaning they are much less informed about us as a whole but at the same time we don’t have much info besides social reads and tells we do to suggest what we have if we have them.

this is way more mechanical than i remember

@Memekingpizza

My logic here (don’t murder me for it) is the roleblock claim. If they were mafia why make it up in the first place if it’s fake and trying to get a mech confirmed by pure chance. But the thing they were the first person out of two as of now that claimed on they were roleblocked. But this could just be misread on my part based on my lack of experience but their posts seem to give off innocent vibes Like I believe that the roleblock is real. They aren’t claiming TI but they could be. But by claiming it’s indirectly confirming someone’s (not the person) ability in some shape or form. Which when it comes down by end game when we need to throw everything out in the open anyone could point it out to confirm an ability to be real.

this is probably the towniest post he’s made because i can think there is some hint of a real thought process

i’m having a hard time remembering what posts by him i thought were, like, definitely towny

[catbae]

@Memekingpizza - I know you think Someone is good, do you have reads on the rest of the game at all?

[Chloe]

i thought his v-read on frost and not wanting to tie the wagons at EoD was villagery, then on d2 he decided to be more vocal about his townread on Someone and say he wouldn’t be voting there (which seems pretty counterintuitive if w/w with marluna) because he was right on frost and wants to be louder about this one

[Chloe]

ftr memeking is acting like
literally the exact same as he did as town in the DR invitational
mostly focusing on mechanics, lurking and popping in when he has something to say, and generally having a very pure toan

[catbae]

oh right i guess i should read that

[Chloe]

also marluna had an interaction with him that felt like piggybacking off of a villager to get town to take bad night actions

@Chloe

I suggest that roleblockers and redirectors don’t act unless there’s solid reason to think it won’t result in a paradox (an example paradox is two roleblockers or redirectors targeting eachother. Wolves likely have these roles too!)

@bystander

howmany roleblockers wuld be in the game

@Memekingpizza

I dont think many of us are roleblockers j think most of us still mess with someone else that could cause a paradox. It doesnt just have to be roleblockers causing them.

@Marluna

I really can’t imagine anything else than roleblocks to cause a paradox.

@Marluna

Maybe dividing by zero, but I doubt there is a role in mafia which divides anything.

@Memekingpizza

I mean based on tuttu role flip we might need them to help other abilites out.

@Marluna

You are right.
Even Frost’s role needed manupilation to activate.
@Chloe this is what you missed.
It is probably unwise to withstand the roleblocks/redirections based on the flipped roles.