Pathologic Invitational - TOWN VICTORY!!

i feel so free right now lol i can say anything i want without having a fear of being suspected

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same thoughts

nobody thought you were mafia tbh

kanaverysuspicious

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nokieliminate

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yes but i still had a fear that any of my future posts might be very sus

this reminds me i really badly wanted to say at eod “you chose wrong whysper” and openwolf so in the 5 minutes she was waiting to go to dvc she thought i was a wolf

tfw both of the ICs didn’t vote day 1 so wagonomics are even more useless

this is so not helpful except we know that both wolves were definitely voting!

this literally does not help me determine whether it’s any more likely to be the kanave/nokiel world or not

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i don’t think may had much of a reason to make the aelin case as a wolf
it’s something i would totally do as a wolf just because it’s what i would do as town but i don’t know if may would want that attention as a wolf in their first wolf game when the town beancat wagon is already right there

this was the vc before may voted aelin

beancat (2): Arctic, Nokiel
ElizaThePsycho (1): May
Kanave (1): Vulgard
Arctic (1): ElizaThePsycho

Not Voting (6): Aelin, beancat, Jar, Kanave, Lemonfairy, Whysper

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vulgard’s vote is like, exactly what he would do as a wolf there, but i don’t think it makes more him more likely to be a wolf (unless i use that weird math thing arete was using to suspect me for killing magnus last game)
it’s not something he can’t do as town, but i can’t townread him from it because an aelin miselim is clearly better than a beancat elimination for wolf vulgard

i think lemon probably looks the worst here just from how they handled their suspicion of aelin (i haven’t fact checked this yet but i remember people calling them out for just reading into aelin’s posts after the may case).

eliza is a similar situation to vulgard where it’s the most optimal vote for a wolf!them to make, since aelin was suspecting eliza and the wagon on me wasn’t really happening. so as much as i want to award her credit for the full on case she made against aelin despite the wagons being v/v/v and it not technically being necessary for wolf!her to do, i don’t think i really can because an aelin kill was the best for wolf her there. shrug

nokiel voted beancat for pressure when this was the votecount:

ElizaThePsycho (1): May
Kanave (1): Vulgard
beancat (1): Arctic
Arctic (1): ElizaThePsycho

Not Voting (7): Aelin, beancat, Jar, Kanave, Lemonfairy, Nokiel, Whysper

and they disappeared for the rest of the day after this, so i can’t really read into it much. you could make an argument that if they knew they weren’t going to come back before eod, it would have made more sense to vote someone they actually scumread rather than just a pressure vote, but they did say they would “sheep a little” so idk

and kanave’s vote, despite their explanation, is still just plain ass and there’s no sugar-coating it lol. the wagons are v/v/v, they don’t give a fuck about trying to solve the people who are in contention for dying, they say their vote “doesn’t matter” despite their vote potentially making the difference between aelin/beancat dying, and they waste it by voting me for “weird posts early in the game” (from their explanation on day 2).

so ultimately, i still think kanave is a wolf from this. i think lemon is more likely to be a wolf than i’ve been previously considering, and i’ll probably look over her eod in more detail. everyone else is just kinda meh, except may who i think is more likely to be town (but she was already my top town before this lol)

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as in, worst of the people voting aelin

kanave overall still seems worse

Morning,

Jar’s poisoning is an odd choice. I really feel like scum is trying to make town implode between high-posters.

My town right now contains everyone except Kanave, Eliza and Vul.

Kanave is the one I Scumread most, Eliza is Scumlean and Vul is more nulltown/null.

VOTE: Kanave

I don’t think I’m changing my mind on the ones I TR, most of them seem like they’re too focused on solving to wolfread (pushing the game faster than I think a wolf would be comfortable).

Although, I just checked May’s ISO. It seems like they’re pushing to solve, but the attitude of falling into pitfalls could also be used to cover a wolf agenda where May makes a case on a player and just vanishes. May has also been on both ml wagons. (Actually, so have I…) might be a moot point in the end.

Conclusion to the last paragraph. May is negotiable, but not in my scum list yet.

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i feel like as a low-poster being widely suspected by louder players, this is a particularly weird thought for you to have if you are town

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My hedginess has been to the pressure and you asked for hard stances, I’m trying to stop hedging and have opinions, regardless of pressure.

Tbh, I thought I was going over when I went to bed yesterday. Because of how bad my indecisive hedging had gotten

i mean the two worlds im considering right now are that’s it’s literally just you and kanave or something like 2 of eliza/lemon/vulgard

so considering that louder players are pushing for you (a low-poster) and them not getting poisoned, i would have expected you to suspect primarily the louder players? projecting here slightly, but i do think the perspective is a bit weird, and might be coming from a place of TMI

I mean, I get the suspicion on louder players, but I’m not sure I find anything that I can argue in posts. I find your frustration over an unfocused town to be something that seems strange for a wolf to come up with. Others seem like I can nitpick, like May’s laxness to expectations and happening to ml twice. Vul I literally can’t remember why I find off, Imma have to find that again.

If I just lash out at high-posters as expected I feel like I’ll just get run over by more experienced players, especially considering the position I am in now.

I need to look at Lemon again and remind myself why I TR them.

ok my suspicion on you was growing until you posted this and considered vul as a potential wolf. i thought there was a high chance of you and vul being w/w since you both were saying the exact same thing, that is kanave and nokiel are wolfy

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Lemon’s questions pointed at everyone has felt like trying to collect content from others for players to analyze

They have also had their own opinions and not just stepped back afterwards without giving their input.