Pathologic Invitational - TOWN VICTORY!!

[Arctic]

@Aelin

Curious about Arctic and May’s interaction around the push on Eliza. Specifically, both of them feel very… I don’t know the proper word for this, but they’re very ‘complying’ with each other? Like, they seam very… relaxed? But not exactly that. May also specifically didn’t latch onto the RT avenue, and I’m curious if Arctic offered that specifically looking to see if May would immediately try to back out of it and would like a response for this from Arctic.

uh well okay the context here is that May made a similar bad read on eliza at the start of last game which made me realize that it was probably an RT this game when she did the same thing. i mean i invited her to clarify for sure but she… didn’t, probably so others could still be able to react to the post at that point without completely spoiling it. i didn’t really mean to offer this as an explanation i just inadvertently did this while trying to figure out what was going on

@Nokiel

Hello, posting snd forcing myself not to delete any thought.

hi
why were you deleting thoughts
were you worried about how you would look or do you just not really believe them?

[Arctic]

this response feels kinda muted to me compared to how bad i personally thought that push was and it also doesn’t actually address the poster or what it means for their alignment

they also just left after this point so rip

[Vulgard]

i honestly kinda townread the progression from posting that into just leaving, feels like not caring about perception

[Arctic]

this is interesting
see wolfing is much easier for me to play confidently because i have perfect information and know exactly what moves i need to make to benefit my alignment
if you read the wolf chat i was predicting things that went down on day 4/day 5 while we were still on day 2 (that zorvo would flip his arete read and go me for me instead while realizing me and molly were partners) and this was why we nearly killed him on night 2
i knew i wanted magnus dead because his reads were perfect and was worried about people listening to them at night if he were nightkilled

@May

I don’t have a ton of experience with Arctic, so I don’t know how much he tends to intentionally shake up his wolfgames

eh i don’t really deliberately shake them up unless the wolf rands are back to back with similar people (like i would have had to this game for instance). that doesn’t mean i don’t change them a fair amount each time as i get better. i think last game i added an emotional part to my wolfgame that was missing. i don’t think i was even aware of the tell you’ve pointed out in this post so i can’t say i would have changed it if i randed wolf lol

[Arctic]

i feel like its more likely to actually mean nothing but we’ll see

[Vulgard]

arctic is being relatable now oh no

[Arctic]

fair enough
but if you still scumread me at eod and you’re town then i am revoking your license to read me as you would have been wrong on 3/4 of our last games together, including both of the wolfgames

now that i think about it i don’t think you’ve ever actually correctly scumread me in games we were in together

[Vulgard]

@Arctic

but if you still scumread me at eod and you’re town then i am revoking your license to read me as you would have been wrong on 3/4 of our last games together, including both of the wolfgames

well last time i gave this ultimatum to marl and he was a wolf so maybe i’m a wolf

[Arctic]

bruh stop being weird

[Vulgard]

ok arctic is town that was easy

[Arctic]

yeah theres also the “might just be like me lurking” part

but idk how much of this can be attributed to having never played a game on a forum before (with unfamiliar people) vs being a nervous wolf

[Vulgard]

i can tell he’s going to be confused by this but i don’t think he approaches me like this as mafia

[Arctic]

…what

[Vulgard]

@Arctic

but idk how much of this can be attributed to having never played a game on a forum before (with unfamiliar people) vs being a nervous wolf

ngl my confidence in my ability to read new players is rock bottom after i misread and pushed two newbie villagers last game so i don’t want to put too much stock in this read

i do think this opener is wolfy though and in a different way than why i thought otterpopd and prisma (the aforementioned two newbie villagers) were wolfy in their game

[Vulgard]

eliza why are you always so wolfy

[Arctic]

i dont know whether this is AI but what i thought was weird about this was how whysper shifted the focus onto what lemonfairy’s alignment was compared to beancat’s original post trying to evaluate you from your confidence

like there’s kinda… a gap in the read here because she says she’s seen you treat appel like this before where appel was a wolf but doesn’t say whether you did this as town or a wolf and avoids commenting on your alignment instead

[Arctic]

so do i get an explanation

i half was like okay this is towny from you because you usally care more about making your progressions look like they make sense as a wolf but i know you’re aware of the tell at this point (since i used it in gravity falls, as well as last game) so my second thought was that it felt like a convenient way of giving up your push on me extremely easily in a way that plays into this meta tell

[Vulgard]

@Arctic

so do i get an explanation

well basically i feel like you don’t respond like this to me claiming wolf if you’re mafia and instead try to turn it into a read but it feels like you’re genuinely trying to solve me from an uninformed pov

[Arctic]

i would have not tried to turn it into a read because i also would have not known how to respond to that as a wolf but ok whatever i guess

[Vulgard]

the other part of that is that i believe your specific response comes from genuinely being confused while trying to solve me