i frankly liked kanave’s posts about eliza
when she’s actually here her content has been better recently she’s just weirdly Not Here recently when she’s typically an active player as town
i’m also liking nokiel’s posts more and eliza’s less
if i were to die right now i’d say beancat/eliza
evaluating them as a whole gives me the answer of “it doesn’t matter that they sound hedgy, they seem like they are genuinely processing the game and playing by discovery, which is particularly visible in how their view of the game shifts as they absorb new information and their questions are answered”
this seems vague but just pay close attention to how they interact with people and you might see what i’m seeing
beancat (3): Whysper, May, Vulgard
Lemonfairy (1): beancat
ElizaThePsycho (1): Nokiel
Vulgard (1): Jar
Nokiel (1): Arctic
Not Voting (3): ElizaThePsycho, Kanave, Lemonfairy
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Kanave feels town, from her detailed reads on nokiel/Eliza/one more i forgot which one
plus this
On the flipside Nokiel is definitely on my kill list, they’ve not done anything concretely scummy like Lemon but their general attitude feels very nonconfrontational
Their two votes yesterday and beginning of D2 were only for “pressure”
Plus there’s this readlist:
With everything being “town” for the more active ones and “null” for the lesser active ones
Like they never call out any scummy actions
Even their last vote:
They don’t actually look into whether someone is scummy, just for low-effort
…
D:
So do you think you were completely wrong on this?
in what way cause I just came to the exact opposite conclusion
i think nokiel is the most towny player in the eliza/beancat/kanave/nokiel quartet and i don’t like beancat trying to get them killed now after townreading them on day 1
kanave also has a point about eliza that i somewhat agree with which is why i dropped her here
yeah i don’t like beancat’s pushes today
i think kanave is not w/w with beancat and not w/w with eliza which would mean she has to be with nokiel but i now think nokiel is townier
i also revisited all of my trs and i feel confident about them (my trs are everyone else)
i… don’t think i’d say lemon has leverage today? i think she’s only been in the thread once today
relatable
kanave trying to argue to arctic that eliza should be considered an exe unaligns them solidly
kanave not voting aelin on day 1 unaligns them mildly
i’m not really sure why beancat is townreading kanave now
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unaligns kanave and beancat mildly
i think eliza is townier than nokiel but i do think i’ve probably been giving her too much credit
fwiw i had this written up, sorry for the formatting
IC:
Whysper
do not kill these people:
Arctic (sorry Whysper but i think you’re wrong)
Jar
Lemonfairy (read her iso again and i think she’s been pretty towny, first person here i would reconsider later down the line if necessary but for now i feel comfortable; i particularly like the way she’s evaluating slots that people have suspected, like arctic and nokiel, and ready to present contrarian takes on them, like the early tr on arctic)
May
personally would not kill right now after re-reading their ISOs (i read my entire poe + eliza):
Kanave
Nokiel
the rest:
beancat (pretty bad posting overall, lots of excuses, the votecount push feels like agenda, she did that thing several times where she presented two players in a post and called one towny and the other scummy but it feels like she’s just trying to manipulate the thread with this; now that i’m typing this out i see beancat trying to push nokiel but that’s completely incongruent with how beancat tends to be paranoid of high-posting and high-influence players, which nokiel is not, just feels like an ml wolves would want to get; beancat does try to push on lemonfairy but is very conciliatory toward me and arctic this game, which isn’t how i interpret her towngame; also note the fact beancat was townreading nokiel in p#312 for the push on her but is now pushing them, i feel like beancat wants to turn that and lemonfairy into mls because if poe of kanave/nokiel/beancat/eliza is correct then wolves need one more villager in the poe to win)
eliza (push on aelin looks towny on the surface but re-reading it and then reading kanave’s case on it made me feel like kanave has a point, this push basically looks like she’s just arguing with aelin because aelin is wolfreading her and she presumably wants aelin to die that eod, also her reads seem really static - she moves from person to person and kinda just stops evaluating the previous player every time, just zeroes in on people that look pushable: first arctic, then jar (and quickly backs off when i defend them), then aelin, now me (but has completely stopped trying upon realizing i’m unpushable today)
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Ngl I found one of bean’s posts townie
Lemme find it
idk i just looked critically at the pushes these players have made and reached the conclusion beancat and eliza seem like they’re playing for mls
Yeah, I’m thinking more and more that I probably was