Pathologic Invitational - TOWN VICTORY!!

With less than 12 hours left in the day, I think I’ve gotta decide who I actually want executed by the end of things.

In any other game, my immediate thought would be that Kanave’s a bad D2 execution, because her doesn’t lead us to a good understanding of the gamestate, but with only two wolves… I’m not sure we entirely need to worry about that? It’s not gonna be a situation where two pivotal villager flips build a good web.

The thing that gives me pause about the Kanave wagon is the way that very few people have placed votes so far. It feels like the wolves are happy to let her execution proceed, I think? But it could also be that they don’t want to look like they’re contesting the wagon in the case that it does go over, which they’d see as likely… Dunno. Not sure. I can’t find my footing on any strong opinions today, probably because I am doing the D2 thing again. I need more practice with this.

No, not necessarily. I’ve already expressed suspicions of Arctic. I also think bean isn’t particularly towny.

w!bean World

bean w/w with May, Vul, Lemon, or Eliza

w!Arctic World

Arctic w/w with May, Vul, Lemon, Eliza, or Nokiel

v/v World

Wolves within Kanave, Jar, Nokiel, maybe Vul

Not sure since it first depends on choosing a world for the wagons. I notice that Vul fits okay with any world. Though I’d be scared and don’t even want to think about a world with Vul and Arctic as teammates. :ayaya:

I think if one of the wagons was wolf, then Eliza is a likely partner. If both wagons are v/v, then Kanave does look rather bad and the discussions have been pretty convincing. Jar still also looks bad for no vote, though I also had no vote so I understand it happens. And especially since he is new, I can understand the indecision for what seems like a very important thing.

I think the biggest thing is that Eliza stands out more to me than previously. I had her still as PoE, but kind of didn’t think much more about her.

Arctic I’m slowly coming to thinking might be town actually. I still have lingering suspicions, and I’m not sure I like all his replies on accusations. Yet I’m also liking his other discussions when he is actually working on solving.

idk going back to sleep i felt like he was not going to die? then again i don’t have tmi thread awareness

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the woes of having a good scumgame

VOTE: Nokiel

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1+ in kanave/nokiel fmpov and i’m feeling this more rn

might switch later

not entirely convinced beancat is town either

I don’t know that hardly anyone being discussed for execution really gives much more info for gamestate. Like Eliza or Nokiel or bean. Only Arctic would, and I don’t necessarily want to base executing him just for gamestate info if there’s reasons to think that execution is bad.

Actually maybe Eliza would help to determine if it’s likely that the D1 wagons were v/v

After skimming Beancat’s ISO and their general not following up on their activity claim, their ISO feeling a bit like they hop on whatever the current topic is and the kind of back commenting I think I’ll go with them.

VOTE: Beancat

VOTE: Kanave

Eliza is strange to me too. I still feel like it’s been gut and then no effort to continue. I get that it can be lack of time or motivation, but I feel like it’s been solving with no reason, which puts me off. Mostly I think it puts Eliza in a position where they contribute in a way that allows them to direct attention without expanding other than gut. (or tone)

Partly because of Aelin’s legacy post I think I’d rather go with Eliza
VOTE: ElizaThePsycho

scum dont need motivation for everything, i just want to know what’s you think is actually villagery about them

This little comment right before the vote sounds a bit wolfy to me :ayaya:

i mean if you’re correct then it’s a bridge i’ll cross later but really from this one poison alone i don’t have any reason to believe it’s the case empirically when i look at the last game where gorta was one of the early-game poisons over louder town leaders.

i think something else you aren’t considering is that if a louder player is currently correct, then wolves would want to avoid poisoning them as people may be inclined to follow/sheep that player now they are an IC. i think this point is especially relevant in this setup, because if the poisoner dies scum get a factional, which they can use to kill the louder players who are correct without having to worry about their influence on the game. having to make a loud player who is correct an IC for the day is something wolves might want to avoid

we’ll see whether this makes any sense depending on whether mine and vulgard’s poe turns out correct

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like… i kind of think they hit the jackpot by poisoning you. you didn’t have many hard stances, so it came with no real risk to begin with, and then when you were forced to take a stance due to the poison you ended up … being wrong

it’s a pragmatic explanation but knowing that i’m town it makes sense to me lol

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BTW, what game was this? Who were the wolves in that game? And did they win? (Haha, maybe last question is silly if recent game here :ayaya: )

Oh man, I forgot about the whole poison turning into factional. That’s actually a good point. If the poisoner partner goes, then things change.

they did win but it was fairly close

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Oh, I see the wolves included Eevee and Marl, and they would definitely think in the way you describe

at the moment i feel like may and arctic are the least wolfy along because they are very open about what ideas come to their mind and statements seem very concrete. reasons for votes against arctic also didnt really make much sense to me too.

Lemonfairy initially talks a lot of not-game-related-content which was an eyebrow raiser for me however later she tries to acknowledge everyones reads and and comment on it which feels towny

i dont conclude anything from eliza’s latest posts but she seems very confident about her choices on whom to vote which i think is unlikely for a wolf to do.

i am neutral about beancat, nokiel, arctic, or kanave since nothing has really seemed wolfy or towny to me.

VOTE: Vulgard
i am voting vul because of the following reasons

they seemed too confident about their opinions in the starting of the game.
they agree with me suspecting them unless they have forgotten about my post suspecting him. But even if he did forget, it is still strange because my reads on arctic made almost zero sense