Kanave/Vul
Kanave on Vul
Vul: is this all you have after backreading? you stopped posting after that which was 4 hours ago
Kanave:
for the most part yeah, maybe im due for a pass when im less distracted but only things that stood out to me were the Eliza reads, people reading others off of meta (which i dont really know anyone here well enough to use) and i just didnt really have too much to add to all of it, which like yeah thats bad but shrug, dont want to force anything if i dont have anything
Kanave:
How so?
Kanave:
I can agree with this
Vul: i don’t think that part had anything to do with their opinion about their reads, they were just weird introductions and endings that came across as them being self-conscious (and that’s why they exist)
Kanave:
Yeah im just kinda thinking about why, they look to be a newer player and i can atleast testify that i delete thoughts as a new player bc i was self concious that they were bad as town
this is to say yeah, just post things dw about how they look
Vulgard:
elaborate
Vul: so i take it you think they’re mafia?
Kanave:
yeah being honest ive been pacing around making excuses to myself for the past few minutes here, but no ive just not mentally been in this game at all; Ive barely read and only have vauge ideas of reads, i came into thread there and voted arctic bc i remember feeling weird about them and the stuff aroudn them potientally knowing the reaction test was a reaction test and so i just voted there because it was what required the least amount of thought. Im just going to do a full reset here, throw out everything i have and start isoing people and get a completely new set of reads because this isn’t going to work if i keep playing like this; I’ll start with Eliza bc i’ve usually read her correctly.
Vul on Kanave
Vulgard:
VOTE: Kanave
Vulgard:
VOTE: Kanave
bouncing around
Vulgard:
kanave’s content is not good
“is that ai” yes it is, i’ve seen her actually do things as town
Vulgard:
elaborate
Vulgard:
it seems more likely to me you wanted to be voting and you wanted to his postmin (the latter of which you admitted) but since you didn’t care where to vote you placed the vote on the least meaningful wagon because aelin was already dying and you were ok with it (and potentially because the only alternative was beancat whom you were ok with dying as well)
i understand being uninvested as a villager but that’s a complete lack of a pulse
Vulgard:
i think nokiel is the most towny player in the eliza/beancat/kanave/nokiel quartet and i don’t like beancat trying to get them killed now after townreading them on day 1
kanave also has a point about eliza that i somewhat agree with which is why i dropped her here
Vulgard:
VOTE: Kanave
Vulgard:
I did actually revisit Lemonfairy some time ago, I just still found her towny, as noted in my legacy post before we killed beancat. I barely made an effort to solve the game yesterday because I thought Kanave would just die and I was fine with it.
Vulgard:
That said, it is a very convenient distraction from solving Kanave. May has been trying to steer the execution away from Kanave for the entire game and is still doing it now, I find it really weird. Never the top priority.
Vulgard:
I feel like it’s Kanave/May or Nokiel +1. I don’t think May is with Lemon (as just explained) or with Nokiel (also as just explained). I don’t think Lemonfairy is with Kanave (as just explained) or with May (as explained through May).
It can be Nokiel/Lemon or Nokiel/Kanave. Or, well, as I just said, Kanave/May.
Vulgard:
When reading Kanave’s posts about Nokiel, I thought she was trying to get Nokiel MLed, but later I noticed a pattern that makes me think it’s actually hard distancing / maybe bussing. The one time she talks to Nokiel directly, it’s her writing a post that’ll make her look better if Nokiel flips mafia. She writes a lot of posts about Nokiel being wolfy and a wolf but both times she she has the chance to kill them at EoD and doesn’t.
Vulgard:
Noting that Nokiel actually starts pushing on Kanave when Kanave pushes them on day 3, but come today, Nokiel’s townreading Kanave as if nothing happened. And yesterday, Kanave didn’t argue to vote out Nokiel when it mattered, despite actually having the chance to kill Nokiel. In fact, she argued in Nokiel’s defense in a roundabout way and randomly punted Eliza.
This is why I need an extra pair of eyes, it just feels like they’re trying to kill each other but not really.
Vulgard:
This post TMIs themself wolf, this post TMIs themself wolf, Kanave has several posts that look like they are TMIng Nokiel wolf. The fact they put Kanave here is potentially significant because it implies Kanave was the “last” townread, which, going by straight TMI… well…
Vulgard:
Now you get to the question “why would Kanave/Nokiel poison like this,” and my answer is that they really had no other choice. Poisoning someone like me who’s wanted to get them killed for most of the game would just, well, get them killed. Poisoning the few remaining ML targets such as Eliza and beancat would also be bad, because it removes them from the ML pool, and makes a wolf more likely to be yeeted. Who’s left? The in-between. People who won’t be MLed for the foreseeable future, but who also will not kill wolves when poisoned, given their current reads and position in the game. Whysper and Jar fit that category perfectly.
Vulgard:
VOTE: Kanave
this is unpaired overall
