Akshually, “:00 good /// :01 bad” is the standard because “:00 good” gives us full 48 hours whereas “:59 good /// :00 bad” gives us 47 hours, 59 minutes, 59 seconds of day time as opposed to 48 hour day time
I would like to speak to your manager.
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It’s over for the Chiron fandom.
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do you have anything to say about this threadstate
we’re deciding between ash and pandora, more than likely. people are too scared to vote illwei
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Did u win at catan
I never win cuz haters always robber my tiles when im going to win this is a lie i lose because i pick the worst starting tiles every game
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VOTE: illwei
I HAVE NO FEAR
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tutuu
arctic
sulit
may
anonymoose
beancat
ash
jarek
frostwolf
apprentice
bystander
atlas
kiiruma
leafia
luxy
illwei
pandora
@ everyone KILL THIS PERSON
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do you have a reason
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lmao
i know i’ve incorrectly scumread you a few times but when have i incorrectly townread you?
but like doesnt matter anyway i was just voting you for science / cuz sulit asked
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You basically said no balls that’s my reason
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the threadstate
not your reads
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No dawg they’re keeping me from getting fucking bricks
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i’ve made my legacy and beancat fits this bill imo she’s nt actually that towny but i still have her as my 8th villager cuz it’s either that or leafia lol
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I don’t know what I want day 1 is hard
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Summary
tutuu - should pretty much always be town. his paranoia that he might be wrong on everything and telling people to go for their own reads was super towny. his reads on people that he (thinks) he knows are also believable and i can see the gears turning. he very much likes to believe he can read people he knows well outside of mafia and his overly eager/generous townreads on atlas and ash match this - it very much feels like he just wants to be right. and you can also sense the disgruntlement he has when his townreads disagree with his own reads - villagery. if the game goes wrong and tutuu is perfectly fine with it, then you have my permission to chop him down the line. but i know that if he’s town it’ll be obvious in the way he’s posting and paranoia’ing everywhere. he did have a good wolfgame so please be wary of him if he doesn’t get nightkilled and the game goes wrong, but i am pretty sure he’s town.
leafia - mixed bag honestly. i think her “reaction test” is very much not believable and wolf indicative for her. i believe the way she’s moved around the wagons this fluidly might be towny for her, as well as her sentiment about perhaps the wagons being wrong. but i can see this also being TMI. i think if i had to pick i’d say town but i really wouldn’t be surprised either way so don’t take this one to the bank
atlas - scumread. i think she had a wolfy start, i think her posting has been curated to seem helpful/towny without really moving the needle anywhere. i mean her main impact has been pushing pandora and shutting down other people’s reads. i think that’s fine if her actions are pro-town and she’s been on the right side of history, something to look back at later on the line, but with my current reads i think she’s been trying to wolfside cheekily and getting away with it. in particular i would like to stress that if Luxy is a wolf i am confident Atlas is almost definitely a wolf with him. her treatment of Luxy is extremely textbook w/w. she townread luxy early for nebulous reasons (“posting was fine”) - which isn’t a courtesy he extended to anyone else with “fine posting” and when called out for it she first moved him down in her read list (w/w point 1) and then tried to re-write history and say she only had him as null previously (w/w point 2). these are both textbook signs of wolves distancing when it’s looking like one is going to go down. please remember this and send her to the shadow realm if luxy is a wolf.
may - is probably town, mostly because i agree with tutuu that as a wolf here she’d be inclined to be trying more. i can’t really point to many specific posts, but the way she’s sort of taking the helpful npc approach by adding things here and there without really trying to integrate herself into the narrative is towny for specifically her and i don’t think she’d expect this position to be sustainable as a wolf. this is a very dangerous read and if she doesn’t turn it up after we miss a few times then you have my permission to kill her. but i would let her get her way a few times before you do this because i trust her to be correct more than most people in this playerlist
sulit - townread. i’ve melded with her takes in real-time on several occasions which i think is less likely to happen if she’s a wolf where she tends to be less believable and a lot more stilted than she has been in this game. she has improved recently as mafia so this isn’t a lock read, just one i think is good for the next couple of days at least.
anonymoose (hippo) - townlean. i think hippo has shown a lot of back and forth and random moments of paranoia which feel villagery. in particular him claiming to iso everyone and saying he found them all towny so he’ll just vote me (also funny) was towny because imo there are plenty of free picking misyeets in this playerlist for him to take rather than poking the bear (me). him acting like he solved the game immediately with the blase confidence he has, while kinda being jokey, is also towny he’s also more funny as town than as mafia and he’s been quite funny this game. re-visit in a day or two
luxy - scumread: explained here. mostly inoffensive takes, same scumread at sod and eod despite not being tunneled, which is a common wolf tell. also zero wolfy people have tried to push him the entire game. w/w equity with a lot of the poe sans pandora who, if town, is the misyeet wolves have been fine with all day. also kind of a meta component by comparison to previous game (With the caveat that this game was a lot more active so everything i’m about to say may be irrelevant) - he posted more in Singers FM as town, he put a vote down early, and had more interesting takes (like a tinfoil/preflip thing on derps) than he has in this game. just food for thought. i would kill him pretty soon if he doesn’t drastically improve
apprentice - townread. probably my weakest townread. could maybe be my strongest townlean. but i’ve been nodding along and vibing to everything he’s been saying - melded with him on luxy being a wolf (isn’t w/w with luxy either) for similar reasons, despite that he responded well to me asking him about luxy’s omgus which he had every opportunity to use to push luxy further, but he called his response reasonable which shows he’s acting in good faith imo. has been townsiding a lot if pandora is v and even more if luxy is wolf, possible correctly calling out that as the wagon wolves have been letting happen. in fact even if pandora is a wolf i don’t think her wolf team right now would be inclined to defend her. i think they would be more likely to either bus her or just hard push someone else and ignore her completely - so either way i kinda feel apprentice is town for his stance here.
bystander - townlean. her treatment of leafia in this game matches previous games where she’s been frustrated by players over playstyle differences (i.e. leafia) but resisting the urge to omgus and instead uh. just going after the approach instead of saying it’s wolfy. which i think, counterintuitively, is actually towny because it fits with her increasing familiarity of leafia doing this kind of thing a lot (she always wolfreads bystander lmao). instant unvote on kiiruma and then going back on after illwei posted was also towny - wolves are generally less sloppy/fluid than this imo. i don’t really understand her push on app but i’m not sure it’s something a wolf goes for, shrug. this is only a townlean because i don’t think she’s been as towny as normal and i’d probably re-visit here on day 3 if things are bad.
jarek - townlean. he’s a good wolf but i don’t think he can fake the level of entitlement over being townread and his indignant attitude, idk. it just feels like standard town jarek. his read on atlas is also towny - you can see the doubt in it (p#394) and the way he talks about how he thinks the game is gonna go with pessimism/being wrong is also very town jarek. i think further down it’s probably better to force him to get more involved with the game, but generally him doing his own thing like this is how he plays as town. usually makes his alignment more obvious when pressured
beancat - weakest townlean probably. she’s doing the usual stuff town her does imo, not shying away from pushing louder/stronger players if they do something she doesn’t like. possibly somewhat oudated meta as she has improved recently as mafia. i want to say that her dying on the hill about activity is towny but it like isn’t. though maybe as wolf she doesn’t expend that much time trying to prove it. dunno. probably the first person i re-visit if game is hard.
i legitimately have no thoughts on frostwolf, pandora, ash, illwei, kiiruma or at least only conflicting thoughts to the extent where trying to give a read one way or another is futile. but the game hasn’t felt overtly wolfy, so i’d expect 1-2 wolves in here. frostwolf in particular will turn it up tomorrow if he’s town. if he doesn’t then just kill him. i have no idea what the rest of these people are gonna do. kiiruma maybe isn’t w/w with atlas for his first post. seems unlike kiiruma to treat partners getting heat like that. but don’t lock this. illwei is a serial wolfsider. trying to think of other stuff i can say here that might be helpful later but struggling rn. i’ll be able to add stuff to my logs after the flip unless wolves hide it, but lmao if that happens
as a general note, please ignore any mech bullshit claims from kiiruma or atlas that they are self-resolving or confirmign each other as town. or even if someone else confirms them as town, unless it is quite literally a standard green check. both do funky ass shit as mafia with mech to get confirmed as town or at least look better. ignore it completely unless it’s something guaranteed from a reliable source
townreads:
tutuu
sulit
apprentice
townleans:
bystander
jarek
anonymoose
may
beancat
^ ftr this should be enough towns to win if pure, and including myself
leafia:
leafia
no clue:
kiiruma
illwei
frostwolf
pandora
ash
wolf:
atlas
luxy
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The associative here only works if I am a wolf
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I still think that it’s weird.
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The pandora wagon is luxy/frost/ash and then sulit
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MY FEELINGS
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im fine with things
i do think ash is town but i havent defended him before and been right. i dont wanna be insistent on my untested method of reading him
LHF can die. we are chopping a LHF
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