is it bad that I feel that beancat is faking things?
Iâve seen him say it several times before
This wouldnât be a slip, because you are poisoned todayâŚ, I didnât specify real or fake poisoned, but I strongly suspect fake poison. I think 2wolves is near universally townread (I guess except for Bean), so it makes sense to get them actually down for the count, since they are not easily lunchable I think. There is more chance for paranoia on a slot like yours to kick in. Both slots have voiced very strong opposition on another slot that I either townread or is me. You would go after me, 2wolves would go after Brad. In the event youâre scum, a fake poison just gives you more of the spotlight to push my wagon through. My impression of your alignment is very coloured by your push on me, nor should it be my priority atm though.
Wind not being poisoned was actually one factor in my earlier vote.
Personally I think itâs weird that scum used their fake poison this early, because it gives town more information to work with early on.
⌠dang I was already typing stuff up, but this goes into ascertaining your alignment. Should focus on other things. I think a vanity wagon is a very weird position to take. Iâll leave it at this for now and probably will only pick it up tomorrow. (If I make it today)
What do you think they are faking?
itâs just the whole tone in thread
I donât know how to explain it
this will be hedgey as crap, but depending on who is scum I could see Ivy being a wolf, it could just be the posting style though. that slot reminds me of whysper posting wise
and whatâs your reason for voting Ivy?
like Ivy instantly trusts frog and trochi (calling trochi town for being friendly)
I do have suspicions on Wind because wind is insanely good at going deep as a wolf
Missing joke contexts, twice even. Itâs odd.
I dislike this negation of a read. Especially, if Trochi would be town. It shuts down progression without putting a stance on either Trochi or Ivy.
They are definitely not self conscious about their thread value, Iâll say. It was also Windâs point that Gorta prefers to be scum, so they would have less of these posts if they would be scum. I can only trust that if Wind is town though. Itâs easy to shield scumbuds that are lowposting otherwise in that way.
Feels genuine and it would be easy to hop on me (albeit eventually look bad on them if Iâd flip)
I thought Brad was townier, so 
I wasnât in the best thread position to do much else. Some minor town points for being annoyed that your wagon didnât go through and continuing to follow up on it. This is how I actually suspected most of the wagon on Brad to act this day.
Why havenât you looked at Eliâs wagon yet?
I think that Gorta going after Brad today makes sense in their perspective. Largely for that Iâll slot him as a mild townlean, probably below Bean, above Ivy (Will make full tiers later on)
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I unvoted them, it was mostly a snapvote, because I really disliked their unexplained vote on me tbh. I can do more due diligence now, but I wanted to get my vote of Wind at least.
Mindmeld tbh
This is exactly where Iâm stuck rn
I came into the day being pretty certain the wagonomics spewed Brad as mafia, but upon ISOing him his slot didnât really look bad at all (at least the half of his iso I went through in depth)
Thing is, he hasnât done anything particularly towny today. He hasnât even voted his top scumread who is still alive and kicking, and I pointed that out and he seemed to get annoyed. Idk what to do with that.
Part of me thinks heâs doing nothing because heâs mafia and whatever plan his team had to save him must be working, but the other part of me thinks Brad was a dead certain yeet today and what seems like a consensus turnaround on him was completely unplanned regardless of his alignment.
And tying that into the poison targets, if 2wolves is the real poison target, we are pretty much guaranteed to wagon Brad tomorrow, if not today. If itâs Frog then idk if it says anything at all about Brad.
Curious to know, how do you think this differs (or is similar) to Brad having so many townreads early in the game? Do you think itâs something thatâs scum indicative or just a playstyle thing?
Thatâs still voting with a lack of care, I cared about who the other wagon was but not who I was voting as well and yet I still classified myself with voting with a lack of care.
If you felt like you couldâve been CFDâd too then I really donât think you were paying attention to EOD, there was only one person advocating to push on you who I still feel hasnât explained their very first reason very well but well meh.
tbf I really hate CFDing anyway so Iâm sort of glad it didnât go through but I still even now think it wouldâve been a hit
You see a post like this just feels like youâre tying up loose ends in the case that Eli did die (which had a decent chance of happening at the time) and then when he flips town you have something to call back too or have something for people to see when theyâre ISOing you.
Why shouldnât you? You been suspecting me of being scum since SoD1
If you scumread a player and theyâre on a wagon you want to vote, sure you can assume itâs bussing and what not, but most people would at least give some form of a comment on it.
You had your vote on me for the entirety of D1, that counts enough as a reason to mention my slot when youâre voting on a player who Iâm voting on
I wish I was drunk at SOD 
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no, I was just stating you shouldnât town read people (trochi in this case for being friendly)
if I get up before the EoD I will
it could be innocent or from a newb scum guarding a partner PoV, I havenât decided quite which one it is
my first impressions were newb scum though, but as I said it could be their playstyle and I have had that happen when I first played with whysper
I had 3 votes on me from potentially influential players and was even tied top wagon during day 1. I think my reason to worry was legitimate. I also was aware of my lack of time for those days to be around much and not really caught up in the way that I would like to be.
I can respect that it can be explained that way, but itâs not the truth. 
Eli is not a player whose contribution in reads I value much (harsh as this is), is hard to read, was less town than Brad to me, and was an option that more reliably could gain traction to go over Brad and not potentially endanger myself.
This is not true. I was nullreading you and voted you to try and spur you into action.
This is literally our full interaction. That wasnât a vote to execute, that was a vote to go do something. It was a placeholder for lack of anyone better in the thread at that time. 3 super tiny posts like these are not a meaningful enough interaction for you to be particularly in my state of mind. Rule of thumb: If I havenât quoted any post of you yet, our interaction hasnât been meaningful. 
This is verifiably false,
was he mafia or town
Ok, fair
Do you think Ivy choosing to sheep her townread, Frog, is more likely to come from town or scum?