Plants Mountainous Poison - Day 8 (1/16) - Wolf Win

Day 7 Vote Count

Vote Target Voted By Votes
Leafia beancat 1/3
Not Voting Solic, WindwardAway, Wazza, Leafia 4

Toxic mafia trio

Could you explain why you voted for eevee here @Leafia You never gave the reasoning for this particular moment I think.

Oh I liked this read.

Bit thrown that they scumread eeveeā€™s push on WWA, but still want me out.

But after I talk a lot with her, they do swap back and even try to get me to join lol

Bit weird to have this apology in there if itā€™s just theater.

Priorities on point I suppose.

Okay, somewhere here, Leafia starts to townread Marl for like a 100%, which worries me a bit more again, because I think the reason for that is eeveeā€™s scumread on Marl, which was set up, so this can also be set up.

:roll_eyes:

Dang what is this 180

Iā€™m not putting toooo much stock in this vote, because it was the 3rd one.

I think youā€™d be a lot less likely to admit this if you know Marl is inches away from flipping scum, but this could also just be a genuine feeling.

Pfffffff, I think this means I need to read Wazza and WWA again too and itā€™s already so late hereā€¦ BLEH.

Like Leafia makes consistently weird comments that indicate a lack of TMI. Their pushes, I can sorta see make sense from a Leafia mindset and they were one of the driving forces between Brad and eevee flips. Marlā€™s Iā€™m not really attributing to them. Together with a seeming lack of TMI, makes the hell bussing theory not seem correct.

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Wait, what is this post @WindwardAway Why would me bussing Marl without getting my hands dirty be any good kind of a play? Like how does this make sense?

Probably wolves tbh
If you die today and flip villager it would leave Solic/Wazza/me in LyLo
If Solic is a villager in LyLo then Wazza is the last wolf? And I donā€™t even think sheā€™s a wolf currently so if I were poisoned and had to vote between them, Iā€™d still lean toward voting Solic first. And if thatā€™s a game-losing vote then idk what else to say.

Not true, heā€™s been a wagon more than once.

Iā€™m starting to think itā€™s just Wazza, because Wind has several, ā€˜dang this is a good postā€™ posts when Iā€™m reading like their last 500 posts or so.

Because you were pushing Marl without voting him at that point and I thought Marl scumreading you but never advocating loudly enough for your wagon was distancing.

Thatā€™s where I was at between EoD yesterday and SoD today, at least
I havenā€™t jumped on it because I felt like I needed to give everyone elseā€™s slots due diligence first too

Like, Iā€™d feel this duped too if Brad stole a hammer like that after I wolf-sided. Hope they start to put that solving to use again and reevaluate on me. :man_shrugging:

Why wouldnā€™t I have just bussed them with my vote if that was what I was trying to do? Like you bus for towncred only? I donā€™t see any other benefit.

Couldve been waiting for Marl to get into the thread since he wasnā€™t even there for EoD
Although tbf you could say the same for me since I wasnā€™t the one who hammered
We were having what I thought was a productive discussion, though, so I saw no need to interrupt it with a hammer when the clear majority was on Marl anyway
Idk, Iā€™m still trying to play through the different scenarios in my head because I think there are things that give you town equity, and not just scum equity like Leafia seems to think despite saying sheā€™s unsure.

Okay, I see this objection, maybe this is reachy, but it does feel like Marl is projecting that here as if it actually happened:

That way they could either mislynch me or still have this as a plausible world view later if Wazza would flip to lynch me later.

Why would I need Marl in thread to put my vote on them to bus them? I still donā€™t follow this train of thought. Like I wasnā€™t getting much town cred at all from the way that it went, so either it wasnā€™t planned or it was just not a bus and Iā€™m not scum. :man_shrugging:

All right, talk to me, what are the scenarioā€™s going through your head?

Interested what you think of my Leafia ISO too.

I canā€™t quite remember why but I think it was because I was scumreading Eevee by that point and wanted the wagons for wagonomics.

Not sure what to say about Solicā€™s analysis there but it sounds very villagery. Itā€™s hard to picture it coming from a wolf. I no longer think that Solic is the best execution here after that. The only question is who have I misread as town? My gut says Wazza, but Wind has scum potential too. @Beancat Please help us find the actual best execution for today.

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There are some stuff that give Solic town equity, es pl ecially later on in the games. Iā€™ll also point out something too.

If I was a wolf with Marl, why wouldnā€™t I just vote for Solic with him, tying the votes and try defending him? I had the perfect progression to do both I think.

That honestly sounds pretty reasonable.

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No, I meant that you wouldnt bus him if he got into the thread and defended himself
But I donā€™t think thereā€™s much to be gained from reading that EoD in comparison to some ld the other ones

You should read it Wazzaā€™s perspective in this EoD though.