Plants Mountainous Poison - Day 8 (1/16) - Wolf Win

w!you makes sense because of defending Brad and pushing me rather than eevee earlier, but makes less sense from all three other wolves jumping on your wagon D2

w!Wazza makes sense for the same reasons w!you makes sense, but makes less sense from Brad spew

w!Leafia makes sense if she hellbusses, but makes less sense from some of her sudden 180s

I feel like I’m just treading water here because I haven’t actually done much today
I still have plenty of time before EoD but I’m already freaking out over the fact that we’re obviously missing something major if it’s not clear cut who the last wolf is
We’ve gone from town basically playing a losing game and not yeeting any wolves, to bagging three in a row.
But at least for me, I feel like I need to find another angle to look at this from, or maybe this is my chance to improve my macro reads
If you’re a villager then I miscleared someone and I have to figure out who it is

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Because it would make you look bad if Marl flipped later on

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Hmmm, considering how close it was to EoD, you actually have a good point there. I probably would be worried about how I’d look there if I was his scummate.

My brain hurts, it’s late, I think this is the way to go for now, I’ll talk more tomorrow, but fine dropping my vote now. Looking for a deepwolf in Leafia/WWA doesn’t need to be there if Marl already fulfills that role.

/vote Wazza @Host_Account_2

Do you think I treated your and/or Brad’s slot in bad faith?

I’ll probably wait until closer to EoD to put down my vote. Wazza isn’t the worst execution though.

this is just me every game what are you even pointing out here

If you hap pl en to be a villager, I’ll make sure to win it for us.

If you vote me I’ll selfvote

If I get poisoned tonight that is.

no you won’t lmao

I have a complete lack of confidence in this town including in myself so I really doubt it

Hmmm, nah. I don’t want to end the day just yet. We need to analyze everyone to make sure we make the right choice.

Leafia, analysis isn’t changing anything, we’ve practically done that now and we’re back to stage one which is basically just me vs Solic

Yeah, you’re probably right but I’m getting cold feet for some reason. It just feels like we’re missing something big. @WindwardAway I want to hear your thoughts on this situation please. @Beancat @Solic Your thoughts too.

Day 7 Vote Count

Vote Target Voted By Votes
Leafia beancat 1/3
Wazza Solic 1/3
Not Voting WindwardAway, Wazza, Leafia 3
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Going to call it a night now, so good night everyone. :sleepingleafeon:

You were waffling the most on voting out Marl.

I literally already said the same thing, idk why you pinged me

To answer this question - idk, maybe I wouldn’t say that you treated Brad’s slot in entirely bad faith, considering when I went through his iso I thought it looked townier than I was giving him credit for and then I reversed my read like an idiot
You supported eevee’s push on me, though, for the same reasons he was pushing me, and I would still call it bad faith. Sure, I admitted I wasn’t trying to lead the town, but it’s not like every player who doesn’t jump at the chance to command the thread is scum, or we’d have way more wolves than just 4 of them. It’s not a good reason to wolfread someone.

All right, then I’ll consider this point dropped, but fine to go into it if you have more doubts about this.

You’re not just any player though. You were top poster by a significant margin and you don’t just post fluff like some other hyperposters, so I have significantly different expectations of you and I think that’s justified.

I think I mirrored myself too much into you, because back when I had significantly more time to play I did haunt others to have the same worldview I had. The only game I have for comparison was FAM, where you too didn’t really command the thread. I explained that away with you being in a neighborhood and hiding a lot of the solving in there. In fact I already questioned that about you day 1 pre-eevee:

I remain cautious about you:

So it ends up with an exploratory vote

I think my explanation is perfectly reasonable tbh.I also have high ambiguity aversion (and an aversion to high posters). If I don’t have time to read you completely, I get more paranoid.

I was also under pressure from Frog (who was poisoned, so I couldn’t go there either), Marl and The_worst who aren’t like super unskilled, so I didn’t feel confident enough to strike out somewhere on my own. This was exacerbated by CFDing unto town day 1 partly due to me as well. You can see this by being somewhat shaken on my Leafia argument, which I thought actually meant something, because the_worst shuts it down: (read the full post in the quote for explanation, quote breaks otherwise)

So yeah supporting eevee further on is an attractive offer, because I never thought that you would be T/T, because eevee is good enough and has too big of an ego to let it burst like that. I basically treated it like a parity cop.

I still struggle on it though:

so ultimately I settle on Ivy. They have a weird vote on me and they say it’s because of sheeping Frog, who is scumreading Ivy themselves…

There is also enough appetite for a wagon there that ensures I don’t get lynched. This was a day where at one point there was this vote count after all:

Hope this explains it @WindwardAway

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