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[Olivest]

@Jar

@Leafia

Olivest and Jar are likely wolves I feel.

hi my vote is on him for the past 12 hours i estimate

this post caught my attention for the pronouns in it but jar/leafia are never s/s here

[Olivest]

@Jar

i see, the second w!jaiden and w!may both seem to have the same strat it seems

VOTE: Olivest

i would once again like to remind everyone that the strat mentioned here is making reasonable reads and standing up for those reads

[Neon]

@Olivest

Why do you think everyone went from townclearing neon to putting them in the Poe? What changed?

Skill issue

[Dum]

i would tend to agree tbh

[Olivest]

did you… skill issue yourself?
why do you think that happened?

[Neon]

@Leafia

Thanks for showing that you haven’t been reading Lady’s posts.

I’ve read every post in this thread ffs this answer pisses me off so much

[Neon]

@Lucyfer

so what exactly was ur plan at the start of day 2, Im still trying to put my head around, “I town read Raj, but Im gonna shade them for assuming they took the factional, even though I know I killed 2wolves”

Where was the shade lol

[Stellaluna]

neon is town

i can case this if i need to but idt i do

~stella

[Neon]

@Olivest

We are NOT bringing this back

[Stellaluna]

hey neon what’s your read on me

~stella

[Dum]

they… did not.

[Dum]

jesus whats up with people missunderstanding everything that comes out of neons mouth

[Olivest]

i asked for a reason for a reason man
what does it mean then
the only person getting any issues here is neon

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

skill issue

[Neon]

@Magnus

Town apparently had no idea who to kill and 2wolves was the target someone threw into the air and, desperate for consolidation, people jumped on it. Is this accurate to the reality?

I think this is a very incorrect interpretative of d1 lol

[Olivest]

oh hey eliza
glad to see youre showing up for eod
did you answer the questions i gave you yesterday?

[Lucyfer]

Leafia Iso

@Leafia

You are. Lowkey think Jarek is town from how he’s acting right now. It’s weird, but in a way that I don’t think a wolf would act.

@Leafia

Yeah. Olivest can have the slightest of townleans from me too.

These are the two earliest reads, and I personally dont believe that leafia believes the jarek read, given they look at this post, “Okay what neut abilities do I have am I benign I hope I’m benign”, from Jarek, and call Jarek a town because they dont think Jarek plays this way as a wolf, which is interesting because I dont think jarek plays too much of this way as town just from a bit of meta diving. and I am not to sure what got them to their read on me

@Leafia
I want a better read on Jarek

@Leafia

Good. Playing the game is good. Can someone give me a tl:dr of the current state of affairs? I’d ask in the wolfchat but I wasn’t invited to it due to being a villager.

@Leafia

That would likely be a bad idea Jarek. Guessing you’re not being serious though. All hydra please put who is talking among you in each post.

they give Jarek a lot of benefit of the doubt for seemingly bad posts

I will note again, I really hate their backpedaling on Zorvo’s read of me

@Leafia

This frustrations seems slightly villagery. At least that’s what my gut is telling me right now.

also not particularly fond of them town leaning Olivest’s emotions

nor how they got to this

@Leafia

Yeah. Gut is telling me KingTroll is a villager and how much has Eevee even posted?

@Leafia

It’s alright and slankers are bad so I’m fine voting here for now.

VOTE: Eevee

garbage vote

@Leafia

This sounds the opposite of villagery to me. This might be a better vote than Eevee for now honestly. Everyone has to have some scumreads.

this is fine for what its worth, but I also think anyone can look at this post and be like, “NO WOLF READS THATS SO WOLFY”

@Rajidae

I ISO’d Eliza btw, and she’s a villager.

Very confident on this.

ohh thanks, guess im not voting Eliza

@Leafia

This is something I disagree with. I think he’s been villagery enough for now from what I’ve seen. Reminds me of Hippo actually.

based off what?

@Leafia

I honestly don’t think this ever comes from a wolf.

what

@Leafia

My reasoning is this sounds either like TMI that Eevee is town or Eevee is his scumpartner in worlds where Jar is wolf. I struggle to see why a villager would want to save Eevee in Jar’s situation.

i think this is too blatant to be scum partners, though I will note I kinda hate the way Jar talks here, Im not sure at all what the bolded even means honestly

@Leafia

I’m reading ot the opposite way. It sounds like he just doesn’t know who to vote and that he’s panicking a bit. Not something I’d expect to see from a villager at EoD when the top wagon is on a villager. Also, he could easily have voted anyone else to look better and 2Wolves would still have gone over at least from how that looks, so I don’t think it’s as wolfy as you do.

I think its very easy to panick honestly, but as it stands, they haven’t had a strong stance, outside utterly refusing to vote Jar, and u dont really comment on w/w between them yet

@Leafia

Good idea. No one sould be completely townlocked for any reason unless they flip or reveal as an IC.

ok?

@Leafia

A Jarek counterwagon is an excellent idea here I think. I want Jar/Jarek wagons by EoD everyone!

???

@Leafia

I wouldn’t call knowing her active pokemon has an ability aligned with manipulation to be a soft greencheck.

I’m not particularly sure why u didn’t talk to me before u wrote this, to understand why ur other half said this…

@Leafia

Not always. Only since it was brought up how he had barely done anything but was never pushed or voted. You’d think that at least one wolf would’ve at least tried to do so a bit if he’s a villager.

no because unlike nokiel who was full null or even eevee, enough people talked about Jarek possibly being town

@Leafia

I do like where Oli is going with this too. Seems villagery and heading out for now, so talk to everyone more lat srd r. I’ll be back before EoD. Which is at 11 P.M. for me.

noting this

@Leafia

No idea why Zorvo said that. I trust her for the time being though.

im not sure what exactly is happening here?

@Leafia

I never changed my claim. Seems Zorvo made my ability sound like something it wasn’t exactly.

again why before hand didn’t u actually talk to me about why Zorvo might have done this

@Leafia

This feels >Rand v to be honest. I like it.

why?

@Leafia

Eliza wanting to sheep Jarek felt extremely scummy to me to be honest.

what did u mean here?

@Leafia

Not sure what to think of LLD right now but I have trouble seeing worlds where a wolf would act the way she’s acting so she gets a townread for the time being.

this read can be ok, solely because u dont know LLD, so i think its a fair thought believing this might make them townie

@Leafia

Hopefully you’re a wolf this game so town can win.

shade noted

@Leafia

WTF is going on here?

VOTE: Eliza

@Leafia

Joat claim and I don’t buy her claim as well as her choice of target.

this does not look like a push caused by, “No but I’m townreading your CW.”, no townie jumps to bury someone this way and argue, “i like your CW”, you are hard pushing Eliza, and you are using the Jarek wagon to bounce off of, and I dont like this

@Leafia

Plus your EoD here is really bad I feel.

based on what?

@Leafia

VOTE: Jar

Not letting Jarek get yeeted on my watch. I townread him currently and scumread Jar.

lol this dude loves talking about Jarek

@Leafia

Get your vote on Jar. Although Eevee isn’t the worst yeet honestly. Jar is preferable.

U have a scum read on jar, and nothing on Eevee, I dont understand this, like why does town!leafia say this?

@Leafia

KT has slipped massively for me too.

why?

@Leafia

Eliza is one of the two most likely wolves I think. Look at her EoD for proof. As well as how she was acting.

im not particularly sure what this means, you act like u’ve never played with Eliza before

@Leafia

Everyone here knows how bad I am at explaining myself as either alignment.

idk if this is the case, but I still feel like as a town, ur heart is way more into this, then w/e is happening right now, your vote at EoD, while u may claim was hitting ur wolf reads, just placated around trying to save Jarek, which is just weird

@Leafia

Eliza’s claim even if true is too powerful to be a villager I think.

???

@Leafia

Fix the poison. Stella could be town.

I think Stella is town if Leafia is a wolf

@Leafia

Also, if you’re a joat with a doc ability, why not heal Raj to help keep him alive?

good post

@Leafia

Eliza, it was obvious Raj was going to be killedcand I even said for TPs to be on her so I’m not buying that for one second Eliza.

another fair point

@Leafia

I think if Eliza was a villager, Raj would still be alive right now and I’ve seen Eliza as a villager and she isn’t like this as one.

can u talk about this more the second half mostly, I do agree that Eliza should have doc’d Raj, however, I dont agree that Eliza’s ability is too strong

@Leafia

Why didn’t she heal Raj if she’s a villager and why wasn’t she attacked after claiming joat though?

we still dont know what kind of KP wolves have, so I think overall, this is NAI, Eliza is also mis-yeet bait

@Leafia

Although the way Jar is acting is making me think there’s a possibility that the wolves set everything up so that I’d deathtunnel Eliza because they didn’t want to have her softconfirmed…

???

@Leafia

Hmmm, all three of them being wolves together seems a bit off to me but it’s a possibility.

based off what?

@Leafia

I’m trusting this as far as I can throw an elephant. Not only csn godfather type roles exist, but I don’t fully trust you yet and why didn’t you mention that before now?

It’s also funny how you’re automatically assuming a green check can’t possibly be scum since a godfather tuype role could exist and it existing even makes sense since I think it’s safe to assume that the leadef of Team Rocket who is Giovanni at least in the games and anime is very likely a godfather type role.

???
I dont think there is a god father in this setup

@Dum

because i didint realize lefia was PGO, and i tough Zorvo going for a green check play and lefia backing out of it was scum indicative

I think Dum’s play here was really townie, no take backs

@Leafia

He’s either lying about making the kill on me or lying about how the ability works.

I still think in hindsight this makes no sense, what would wolf!Jar accomplish from this?

@Leafia

Actually…

UNVOTE

I want to get this figured out.

good unvote

@Leafia

This is honestly the best vote for today or at least a very good one.

VOTE: KingTroll

He just seemed filled with TMI EoD yesterday honestly.

???

@Leafia

Welcome to my towncore Frost.

why? for gathering all the mech?

@Leafia

You confirming that is at least a bit villagery. I’ll give you that much.

I do like this as well

@Leafia

I still think Jar could be scum, but I’m willing to admit that there’s a possibility that I may be wrong about that.

why does this even happen if Leafia is a wolf

@Leafia

Didn’t realize Olivest had so many and Eliza didn’t have any.

VOTE: Eliza

I think trying to create a CW of whom u also think is a wolf, is fine?

@Leafia

Lucy, Stella, there’s a good chance you’re both villagers so please try to get along.

another unnecessary post if they are a wolf, but wolf leafia isn’t with Stella nor me from this post

@Leafia

Isn’t it possible that you’re just confbiased here? If Stella is a wolf, we’ll know sooner or later, but for now, them doing that parity check is pretty villagery if you ask me.

@Leafia

It sounds to me like you’re two villagers that have gotten to the point where each of you is not even listening tpo what the other is saying to me.

ya I like these posts from Leafia as well

@Leafia

I find this paranoia to be slightly villagery.

After reading Magnus’s case on Neon, Magnus is officially welcomed into my towncore. Get your vote off of him Neon. He’s not a wolf.

this is a good thought process too

@Leafia

Could Olivest possibly be a villager here? Getting a bit scared and worried now. I’m starting to think this game is nowhere near as easy as we might be thinking.

getting paranoia on Olivert is also good

@Leafia

Very bizarre and I can’t understand why Neon is acting like this.

this is a new thought, which I think is good for town!Leafia

@Leafia

Starting to think a Stella exe might not be the worst move either if this is how she’s going to act.

Leafia has some very fluid thoughts that I dont think is easy for a wolf to jump around with

@Leafia

Mostly gut admittedly and he just seemed pure EoD 2. Hard to explain really. I think the thg eet should be between KT, Eliza, Jar, and Olivest right now as all four of them have high wolf potential and I’d stake money on at least 1-2 wolves among them. It’s just a case of figuring out who.

I still dont agree with this Jarek read

Conclusion: so here is my thought process
I think when they replaced in, and a lot leading afterwards, was bad, but I think they picked it up as the game went on, and I dont think im looking at someone that is “trying to push w/e they can”, as Stella believes, at least not fully, cause I can see a lot of it early on, and there handling of Jarek is odd. Im still not sure why they are town-cored, maybe it has someone to do with experience with them

GTH town lean, could see them being a wolf with Jarek

[Neon]

@Olivest

I’m bothered by the fact that half the slots in the game, if not more, just completely ignore what I’m saying because of interactions they had with my slot that were out of my control. I know that they do have a right to do that, but it’s still frustrating. This kind of wagon, where I’m just treated mostly as an inconvenience and a bit of a policy, rather than actively wolfread for anything in particular that I did, is fairly new to me, and I haven’t learned how to handle it yet.

And I’m town.

I just ignore you because i can’t read walls and you post primarily in walls

Tldr that shit in a follow up post for the dyslexic plsssss dear god.

It’s like actually a pain in the ass for me to read walls I’ve done it before but I have to pull the text out of thread in smaller groups and paste it into a word document until i understands it.

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

oh my gosh its eod?
you gave me questions?

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

i have no stance on neon
Lucyfer i had bad reasons i think idk i don’t remember them but i remember that they were bad
olivest has gotten more scummy