Prehistoric Purgatory - Game Over: Town wins

[Rue]

Not particularly.

[Lucky]

I actually find it odd because I think if Kiiruma stopped hard wolf reading me it looks Townie.
If Zone kept hard wolf reading me it looks Townie.

But their both doing the opposite which annoyed me.

[lol]

This town lost credibility

[Porscha]

• In P#3037, you mentioned how you’d choose Aelin to leave over Rue/Brad. Which posts of Brad made you townread him over Aelin ?

• a lot of aelin’s posts felt they came from a genuinely frustrated town perspective, but often 1 on 1 with troch or brad only. I thought brad had been doing more attempts at reading generally. catching up on reading though I’m liking brad less b/c he has more “ugh too frustrated with this game i’m over it” reads which is not conducive to anything and while he does seem legit frustrated, it’s taking away from why I felt he was more towny in the first place by trying to make reads

In P#3046, you explained how you (basically) townread Aelin off her tone. Do you have anyone else whom you “townread because you have neutral / unsure reads on them”?
If so, how many scumreads do you have?
If not, how come Aelin’s case is special?
I still don’t like hippo much, still not a fan of gorta despite having a little more substance recently, and dota didn’t contribute anything substantial in their posts and now seems to just be open wolfing anyway
-trochi and lol and moose has gone full neutral since not playing this phase

• Where did your negativity from P#3068 come from? You didn’t have that attitude in your previous posts. Who hurt you?

• I got fired from my job yesterday. sorry if I let the bitterness from IRL show there

• In P#3069 you mention that everyone else has given “juicy butt”; would you mind sharing what you have with everyone else? For instance, what do you think of lol/Gorta/Lucky?

• I think lol has provided some more insight for today in their posts and that has bumped them from a neutral read to a townlean though I’m still open to the idea they could fit in as wolf; Gorta I read as scummy earlier on and while their posts have been a little better I’m still not really convinced enough to put them in a town read; as for lucky I know they’ve said why they town read me but when I specifically pushed him to read me harder, I don’t believe he responded. I think he is in town range and casually causing chaos because he literally always does, but despite reads from him that I disagreed with, I’m willing to consider him a misinformed town for now (so mostly a meta read on lucky); dota showed no amount of juicy butt in his posts, yanno? posted but with little actual content and kind of just shit posted and now that he appears to be open wolfing, I don’t feel like my read was incorrect

[Porscha]

I decided I town read aelin after catching up and seeing more posts and I also don’t know who else in that post I was referring to: “also open to you being maf” no clue who that is in that context

[Porscha]

okay here’s an updated list for me:

Rue I have as my most confident town read.

town lean:
Tro
Aelin
lucky
kiiruma
zone
lol

neutral-ish:
moose
brad

scum lean:
Dota i’m pretty convinced is wolf despite rue’s opinion that mafia wouldn’t just let him go over. I understand the take but it literally seems to me that dota is open wolfing at this point so I just don’t agree with the take
Gorta
maaaybe hippo? not sure I am wililng to put into neutral just yet. still didnt like a lot of his posts, but since rue pointed out that he was first vote on derp that does help his case so i’m not sure how I feel about his position right now since he hasn’t really contributed recently

[Gorta]

@Zone_Q11

@Rue @Aelin @Gorta @Moose
What are your thoughts on Derps’ progression on Lucky?

I can’t quite say, it is obvious that Derps kind of does have a shaky read and molds it into different interpretations throughout the day, but at the same time there are quite a few posts that I don’t see coming from Lucky as scum. I hope that makes any sense

[Gorta]

also I’m sorry I got distracted, my friends invited me to a game

[Kiiruma]

@Zone_Q11

According to P#3077, they’ve lost their WiM because they are too far behind, and “accepted their shitposting duties”, which is -regardless of alignment- just "ewwww" .

Yeah. Well, I wish that I could believe that. But dota is kinda just a shitposter anyway sometimes and as I said, their slot is a wildcard one which can be hard to read.

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@Rue

How are we supposed to solve slots like Porscha and Moose in late game if they’ve completely dropped off playing the game?

Luck? I’m hoping they’re not both pure, so a thing we can do is just sacrifice them if at the time we have no bigger suspicions.

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@Lucky

I should explain myself better one day but I gtg eat dinner now I’m having steak! Yummy!

Sums up a FM career. ‘I should explain myself better but…’
Lucky has also continued to just ignore me and is content spamming which keeps reinforcing my suspicion of them being a wolf.
569 posts and nowhere near that amount of content. All they want to do is make their ISO unreadable. They don’t do this in a normal game.

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@Lucky

I’m telling you both now that you both REALLY need to look into each other because if it’s Town vs Wolf here the town of you NEEDS to win the 1v1 so you really need to figure it out sooner rather then later.

Kinda cringe bro but I expected nothing less.

@Rue

There is no reason to suspect that those two specifically contain exactly 1 wolf.

We’re going against the almighty Lucky so apparently we’re sus for it or some nonsense lol.
I’m not gonna listen to it anyway and I doubt that Zone will too.

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@Lucky

Probably because Porscha flipping town helps wolves.

Fun fact, yes, wolves want to flip town during Hell phases.
But the way you’re stating it is so 2 dimensional
‘I read Porsche as town, so everyone else is bad, not me. They’re trying to help wolves’

No, maybe you need to take a step back and actually be the one to re-evaluate because trust me, I don’t really need to at this point, you’ve done nothing actually towny.
You’ve whined, tried to put yourself to the centre of attention, content flooded. It’s saddening.

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@Rue

@Kiiruma How would you compare Lucky this game with his play in MHA?

Well I thought Lucky was doing badly in MHA until after a while Lucky and me started to kinda vibe off each other and do well, having each other as townlock. If I change the word badly to atrocious, that’s about the level of comparison. Either that or saying ‘Disappointment increase’

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Well that concludes Kiiruma’s catchup. And lo and behold, we didn’t see Moose or Porsche. Shocking…

[Porscha]

I’ll assume you didnt see my posts almost directly in front of you while typing this response out

[Gorta]

@Kiiruma

their slot is a wildcard one which can be hard to read.

I have to agree with you after reading dota’s ISO. As it stands I can’t tell if dota is trying to openwolf or just being a sh*tposter because I’ve never really played with dota before. I think as of now I’m going to say dota is null as of now, but if anyone has played with dota and can answer my questions then it’s going to likely change. Like I can’t even get a reliable read from dota because they are so unproductive and there is just sh_tposting.

[Gorta]

I also recall porsche posting a bit earlier

[Porscha]

they probs didnt finish fully catching up before making their longer response so it’s w/e they’ll probably see it later

[Gorta]

I want to ISO kii and Aelin tomorrow, but I’m pretty tired. I’ll still be here for small talk and such, but I don’t think I can do another ISO dive

[Kiiruma]

Well heck. I guess I was lagging a bit then lol.
You still have dropped off a fair bit though and Moose is outright doing nothing so…

[Porscha]

no worries I’ve had some unexpected IRL stuff since yesterday so then I ended up playing a ton of catch up and posting late at night when most people aren’t around. I should be able to stop in more frequently tomorrow

[Gorta]

It’s understandable, I need to post more when people are around tomorrow as well.

[dota]

its not sarcasm i literally voted for no reason

[Zone_Q11]

@Lucky

@Porscha

lucky needs to put in his place and understand why people don’t get what the hell he’s saying half the time so i’m trying to open up the convo between him and rue not getting anywhere b/c lucky gets stubborn. it lead to me understanding rue’s entire point against lucky so it was worthwhile for me

This is also a good post.

The previous post (P#3357) and the (second half of the) next post (P#3359) are good posts.

I understand why Porscha looks towny from (the first half of) that post;
I understand that Porscha’s vote on Aelin in Heaven 1 is weird; and
I understand that Porscha has given a (IMO) good response to Rue’s dislike of their progression on Derps.

But what about Porscha’s quote in this post (P#967) makes you think it is a good post? To me, it just seems like a re-eval on you.

@Lucky

@Zone_Q11

Speaking of which, didn’t you have Moose in our group

I mean if you read the below post I also mentioned moose.

Yes, but to be fair:
You mentioned her only after I mentioned her.

@Lucky

Like if 1 of Zone and Kiiruma is wolf and moose is town I really can’t decide which of Zone/Kiiruma is more likely because both of them I can see as wolf.

@Lucky

Like badly

Hey Lucky, why did you even group me with Kiiruma and Moose (and by extension Wazza) in the first place?

@Lucky

@Zone_Q11

because a couple hours ago you switched your read on me from “NAI” to “probably town”.

Wait I did?

…okay, apparently I misremembered. It was Brad who switched his read on me (P#3263) after I posted Homework Part 4 (P#3262).

@Lucky

I might have thought something of yours may have looked good but it doesn’t outnumber the wolf potential things you have done.
Lots more evidence points to you being wolf.

I would like to ask which posts are the “potentially wolf things” that I have done, and please don’t brush everything I have done as “NAI”.

@Lucky

I’m telling you both now that you both REALLY need to look into each other because if it’s Town vs Wolf here the town of you NEEDS to win the 1v1 so you really need to figure it out sooner rather then later.

Last time I checked Kiiruma was when I was doing Homework Part 4 (P#3262), where I found Rue not liking Kiiruma switching votes from Aelin to Lucky “without mentioning Derps or elaborating further on Aelin.” (P#1542)
But in that same Homework, I found Kiiruma literally explaining that in P#1271, so I don’t know what Rue’s issue is with Kiiruma.

I literally haven’t seen anything from Kiiruma, so I guess I will make this another homework for @Zone_Q11. In the meantime, I gotta do something IRL first.

[Zone_Q11]

@Rue

Because it’s an easy attempt to gain towncred if Lucky were to flip, and it doesn’t make sense with Lucky pushing him back in response if they were partnered.

I currently townread Lucky (begrudgingly) after reading P3357 ~ P#3367, but if your argument to give Lucky towncred is because you wouldn’t think that w!Lucky would push Derps back…

Then uh, I recommend reading the recent Scientific Railgun FM.

@lol

@Zone_Q11

lol is being a troll.

you are yet to read one post from me, please Stop answering questions for me

Fair enough. I apologize. @Zone_Q11, read lol’s posts once you get back home.