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ok but in theory since the only person you know is town if you are town you should always vote yourself

you won’t actually do this but it’s funny as fuck

anyways if you monkey fucks want to see a terrible setup I have one for you

Ghana I love how you’re the most chaotic person ever.

I wanted to be the most chaotic person ever

Fuck the state

I am not chaotic

I follow a very strict code of honour

It is simply beyond the comprehension of your mortal brains

That’s why you probably just disable self-voting

Or not if you want the meme factor

chaos as everyone votes themself until realising at eod that this is 100% guarenteed to get a mafia killed and force f5 causing the funniest EoD imaginable

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even better if everybody has like 5 posts until eod because they just selfvoted and peaced out

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hey ghana
what the quick fuck are you smoking and where did you get it

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if you have superior drugs you can’t not share

Because mafia would complain.

I don’t remember any that are not misc.

I don’t recall saying the former, and as for the latter: I apologize that it came out that way. It was never my intention to be the representative voice of dozen other players.

Except unlike Purgatory, a wrong execution on D1 would put the gamestate into LYLO. Even if town executes another town at D1, then D2 would start townsided, which would cause mafia to complain about the boons that town got from the mechanic.

What do you mean by “jester-like behavior don’t have any effect on this setup”?
If town gets misexecuted, then they would get a copcheck and a compulsory dayvig.
If mafia gets executed, then D2 is 3v2 LYLO.
How are these considered to be “no effect on the game”?

because the problem with jesters isn’t that they cause the words “it would be beneficial to their wincon for them to be executed” to be true, it’s that they cause the jester to act in a manner which makes the game worse by introducing pointless WIFOM, and consequently their presence in the game causes the rest of the players to act in less interesting ways, all of which is caused by the fact someone wants to be executed being hidden

if everyone wants to be executed the effect is completely negated; it just becomes like a Heaven Phase of Purgatory

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Ah… I now understand. This would resolve the social aspect of the issue I have with the setup.
However, the mechanical issue would still remain, as the effect of the D1 execution would still be unbalanced. (Well, maybe the effect of executing a town is not so bad, but turning the gamestate into a 3v2 LYLO at D2 for executing a mafia is definitely an issue.)

i agree that the consequences of d1 are much stronger than in most games, but while I dislike excessive swing I quite frankly think that this is an acceptable and crucially predictable amount for the following reasons:

  • the setup if town is executed d1 is villagesided, yes, but you’re drastically overstating to what degree it is such and i’m not quite sure why?
  • it’s an open setup, mafia will be playing d1 with the knowledge that these roles are very likely to come into play and will consequently be playing against the idea of them from the start. your thesis that “the mafia would complain” is sort of negated by the fact that if they really set up a gamestate by which it was unwinnable with those power roles they shouldn’t have joined an open setup like that in the first place and also that is their fault for not considering it

also its literally a joke about the semi-joking opinion that village wins more often when they execute a villager d1

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the 3v2 is drastically unlikely and additionally like
if it happens the mafia would’ve had to have manuevered very well day 1 since it’s a lot easier to find villagers than wolves by wont of their being more of them, and the mafia who ultimately gets executed is likely to produce spew, meaning that while we do teleport straight to a mountainous F5 I’d argue the associatives are strong enough that it’s not as wolfsided of an F5 as you’re making out

with that said, yeah it should give mafia power in some other way but doing that by giving them a role like with the villagers would be significantly harder just because the design space for mafia roles is much tighter and it’d have to be something big to make up for losing 1/3 members

to be clear manuevering that well would leave a lot of very predictable traces if village plays properly, since they’re very very likely to overextend for it

Fight fight fight

oh do you want me to be shouty and angry and unreasonable? ok well now imagine that whenever im talking i occasionally just say “IM BITING YOU IM BITING YOU BTW” in the middle of it

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Are you british?

Because it will definetly make arguments more funny.