Ritual Mafia V - Game Over - Heretics and Traitor Win

[Brakuren]

I’ll comment on this in the morning, but I dislike this post

[Magnus]

I’m under no obligation to make my posts readable.

[Zone_Q11]

Lazy and minimal effort. Outsider could have been an Evil role (Marionette) that thinks they are Good, or it could have been added because of a rule. I couldn’t know which was the case, so at first I lied about my role, but after a while I lost the motivation to continue lying for a possibly non-existent cause and revealed my true role.

Turns out, I really did get a role that was added by a rule; I was Good.

[Zone_Q11]

(Ah. My bad.)
Different game, different circumstances…
Well, fair enough.

[Supremely_Pious]

Vote Count

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Brakuren (3): Zone_Q11, ElizaThePsycho, Leafia
Geyde (2): Bionic, Dum
Hippopablompoyeetus (2): Geyde, guavagudetama
Leafia (1): Brakuren

Not Voting (9): Someone, Ash, Frostwolf103, SirDerpsAlot, Hippopablompoyeetus, otterpopd, Magnus, Hazardwaste, O.kazo

[guavagudetama]

can you really be called the leader if no one is following and you’re top wagon

[guavagudetama]

ig Bionic sheeped you on Geyde but

[otterpopd]

VOTE: ash i want to see more from you thanks

[otterpopd]

gn

[Magnus]

@Dum

Ok @ElizaThePsycho when this is over im murdering you

I went to read the setup to try and see if zones breadcrumbs make sense and I just noticed you dragged me into a game with conversion roles

Im never trusting you blindly again

I think this is potentially performative. Earlier I mentioned the appeal of faking a townslip by claiming to not immediately notice the presence of conversion, that time regarding Hazard’s entrance. In this case, Dum goes out of his way to use in-game evidence to justify knowing about the existence of conversion, but this is contradicted by his own opener, wherein he reads the setup for ritual abilities.

[O.kazo]

@otterpopd
I feel your reads are on the “safer” side than in KE. Is it because you don’t have the confidence of a confirmable town, or you just didn’t have time to formulate solid wolfreads?

[Dum]

@Magnus

but this is contradicted by his own opener, wherein he reads the setup for ritual abilities.

town ritual abilities. I never opened the scum roles. This is clear from the context.

I also had 0 reason to risk a performative action like that at that point in time, there was no pressure on me at all

[Dum]

@Magnus

n this case, Dum goes out of his way to use in-game evidence to justify knowing about the existence of conversion

this is moot. What else was i supposed to say, “oh wait I just read the setup out of nowhere and there’s conversion, fuck this”

That’s just not how I talk.

[O.kazo]

So you thought Zone would breadcrumb a scum role?

That’s why didn’t read the scum role’s the first time, but you did when Zone mentioned hints about his role?

[Dum]

No, I did not.

I started to read the town roles and realized a night ability (which I had not read before) offered conversion protection. That prompted me to actually read the full thing and I was not happy

[Dum]

well technicically i just lied it’s slightly more complicated

[Dum]

I read a night ability that offered “protection against all effects” and that got me wondering what effects even were in this game, so I read the OP and saw

@Supremely_Pious

Players have until the end of the next night to submit their Ritual effects (Ritual of Initiation and Ritual of Death have to be submitted beforehand since they must take effect immediately). Ritual of Leadership must be submitted before the Execution Phase ends or it will be lost.

Which was completely unrelated, but piqued my interest, since I did not recognize the ritual of intiation (despite reading the town rituals) so I started reading scum roles

[O.kazo]

Yeah, i was about to ask, where you found the town role, which protects specifically against conversations… (Because there isn’t one)

But you explained what happened in the time I re-checked all the town roles.

[Dum]

@Dum

I started to read the town roles and realized a night ability (which I had not read before) offered conversion protection. That prompted me to actually read the full thing and I was not happy

I actually hate that conversion is not listed as a negative effect

[Magnus]

@Dum

I read a night ability that offered “protection against all effects” and that got me wondering what effects even were in this game, so I read the OP and saw

@Supremely_Pious

Players have until the end of the next night to submit their Ritual effects (Ritual of Initiation and Ritual of Death have to be submitted beforehand since they must take effect immediately). Ritual of Leadership must be submitted before the Execution Phase ends or it will be lost.

Which was completely unrelated, but piqued my interest, since I did not recognize the ritual of intiation (despite reading the town rituals) so I started reading scum roles

Sure, this tracks along an empirical axis. I’ll retract the performative comment.
Conversely, I’ve only actually read the Heretic rolecards aside from my own Congregation card, so it was a flimsy case at best either way. As an aside fact, I generally do expect certain players to just “notice” things suddenly and out of the blue without much reason, if they notice those things at all, and without caring to explain how they stumbled across them.