Silent Hill Newbie Friendly JOAT 10er 4/10 Day 3 - Mafia Wins

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

drinks

[Demisha]

Something related to D2 or just hunch?

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

i literally made an entire case against him

[Demisha]

God reading his quotes and your arguing his bad points make me dizzy lol (it’s why i’ve been avoiding ISOing drinks)
I’ll reread the case post when im on pc

[Jaiden]

i was going to say its ranta/zorvo but then hammer happened
oopsy

[Zorvo]

I know this is gonna shock you guys but I think Demi is wolf.

Not entirely sure why some think she’s Townie today (YouButWorse in particular in post #1424) but maybe I’m not reading correctly I’ll go over their ISO and full case them later but there was a couple things day 1 I didn’t like about Demi, one in particular is the fact they forgot plaugesimp on their first readslist, remembered them on their second and then voted to execute them during end day like it was Pre-Planned.

[Zorvo]

That post was made last day btw

[Zorvo]

Been reading Demi as wolf while I’d been spectating.

[Zorvo]

@YoubutWorse

ive said before I think theres 1-2 wolves between Eliza/Kanave and that read still contiues

YBW was the only one I town read during my watch of thread that was mainly glimpses.

My thought is we probably should vote either Demi or Eliza today.

I’m on Mobile still so I can’t do my full case on Demi yet.

Also can I request more activity? Doesn’t seem anyone posted during the last 3 hours, I’m presuming it’s lack of WIM?

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

[Zorvo]

Eliza, Great your here!
What is your current solve?

[Zorvo]

Meanwhile I’ll go and make that Demi Case.

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

drinks/ ?? (probably you)

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

i am heavily considering just snapvoting drinks tho

[Zorvo]

Demi Case Part 1

@Demisha

So what you’re saying is im giving wolf vibes because I haven’t given you my reads yet?

Town:
-Jaiden
-youbutworse

Unsure:
-guava
-drinks
-sadbi
-eliza

Wolf-lean:
-kanave
-ranta

here’s the readslist I was talking about

@Demisha

Town:
-YBW

Leaning town:
-Guava
-Jaiden

Neutral:
-Kanave
-PlagueSimp
-Eliza

Wolf-lean:
-Drinks
-Sadbi

Wolf:
-Ranta

now here’s the second one where Plaugesimp was added

@Demisha

Town:
-YBW
-Kanave
-Guava

Neutral:
-Drinks
-Jaiden
-Sadbi (have heard very little from them)
-plaguesimp

Wolf:
-Ranta

Wolf lean:
-Eliza

Those are my views currently

Then they have this one with my slot and Eliza as their wolf reads.

I still speculate the team to be Demi/Eliza, I also fine it odd they go for Plaugesimp over Eliza here.

@Demisha

Yeah no I just finished ISOing Eliza and im confident to say this is a town that doesn’t give a lot of reads is all
There is a lot of fluff but looking at the game she linked she plays like that and there’s a decent chunk of posts that aren’t trivial but the main thing that makes me feel safe about her is that she hasn’t been driving sleepwalky ML votes at all

SO here is where Demi turns around on Eliza lining up for Plaugesimp

@Demisha

Before I forget
/vote sadbi
@This_Door

They then vote the JOAT, then claim JOAT right after

@Demisha

Bro im the JOAT what

which obviously they are not.

@Demisha

Whatever I was just trying to save the JOAT but they’re hardclaiming too much lol

they claim to be covering for JOAT despite voting them to be executed.

@Demisha

/vote plaguesimp
@This_Door

Now here’s what I feel, I feel this vote came out of nowhere and was pre-planned and that Demi themself had the plan to try and pressure find the JOAT, get them to claim and then vote Plaugesimp as planned.

I again really do not like their Eliza read drop from top mafia into “oh ok actually this can be town”.

[Demisha]

@Zorvo

now here’s the second one where Plaugesimp was added

This was because the first one was a draft, that doesn’t really mean anything trust me (me adding plaguesimp later on, you can see that it’s a list done very early into D1).

@Zorvo

Then they have this one with my slot and Eliza as their wolf reads.

I still speculate the team to be Demi/Eliza, I also fine it odd they go for Plaugesimp over Eliza here.

Why was it odd for me to go for plaguesimp? They hadn’t been providing anything useful by then, hell it hadn’t happened yet but did you see how they selfvoted at EoD? Would you ever not wolf-read a self vote?

@Zorvo

which obviously they are not.

Easy to say at this stage of the game, we went over how I did that on purpose to try to keep the JOAT alive.

@Zorvo

they claim to be covering for JOAT despite voting them to be executed.

Because I had voted the alleged JOAT WAY BEFORE they EVER claimed JOAT hello? Have you even ISO’d sadbi? I specifically gave reasoning for my voting sadbi, they had not provided any useful reads other than going with the likely town reads already on the thread.

@Zorvo

Now here’s what I feel, I feel this vote came out of nowhere and was pre-planned and that Demi themself had the plan to try and pressure find the JOAT, get them to claim and then vote Plaugesimp as planned.

I again really do not like their Eliza read drop from top mafia into “oh ok actually this can be town”.

I have literally not been town reading Eliza whatsoever ever since D1 finished, I even pushed HARD to get a D2 Eliza execution with went down the drain not because of me but because Eliza herself pushed it onto Kanave + Ranta and showed up last minute to put their vote on Kanave hitting the last nail in the coffin because YBW didn’t want a rand between Eliza and Kanave despite them preferring an Eliza execution (this beats me don’t ask me why because I literally cannot answer that).

I am still, like I said ever since D2 started, believing that Eliza has no compelling reason to be considered town and while I can somewhat see where you’re coming from, I also have a big hunch you’re wolf too just based on the last minute vote hammering your slot had, as of right now I have little to no arguments to townread you.

[Demisha]

Have you fact-checked any of the arguments YBW provided for townreading me by the way? Maybe those can make you feel better about me.

To be honest I find it hard to believe anyone wouldn’t townread me or YBW (if they were alive) by this point of the game, us two were like the MOST towny players by a longshot.

[Zorvo]

Yeah my slot seemed like an inactive slanker.

[Zorvo]

They weren’t really doing much productive.

[Zorvo]

I’ll tell you something.
You are in a likely deep wolf position and I really didn’t like your day 1.