Singers FM - Day 4 [10/20] - Thread 1

[bystander]

hi

[SirDerpsAlot]

hi

[Brakuren]

hi

[jail]

town zug + wolflean catbae

@Zugzwang

hi Arsonist

i dont have any particular thoughts about zug’s opening messages lmao

3p apso sweep soon!!!

@Zugzwang

NYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA dream reading
what were the alignments of the other people who died

@Zugzwang

oh it was specifically this game
mmmmmmmmmmm

i feel like even as a joke these posts are villagery than not lol

@Zugzwang

NYAAAAAAAAAAAA block is pretty protown, assuming the private chat removal is permanent
because it presumably locks wolves out of wolfchat

@Zugzwang

idk for sure but like. wolfchat is pretty clearly a chat. and it is private. so

@Zugzwang

we can also make sus people ~vanillaize themselves by publicly making ITA sessions

@Zugzwang

though. this is maybe bad because there’s downsides if we do that to a townie

mech talk is nai and sometimes even wolfy depending on the circumstances but i find this type of mech talk towny.

@Zugzwang

update:

@LadyGaga

|Block Button|Publicly remove yourself from private chats tonight.|1 Gold Coin

this removal is only during the night
so sad all poison

directly thinking of and sharing ways certain mech can be helpful for town makes me feel like its more town motivated.

plus. the update makes me think that the thoughts are coming from town lol.

@Zugzwang

can I have an alt wincon

@Zugzwang

nyaaaaaaaaaaaaa were those reads real

i will say i find this slightly strange considering it is not like. inherently wolfy to forget what reads u have lol. i unfortunately do this a lot but i think thats bc i lowkey need to be medicated. the post itself isnt bad but the wording looks shady which i dont really believe kanave’s post deserves shade.

@Zugzwang

mmmmmmmmmm
towny town from the town chat

this kinda makes me go back tho

bc if wolf zug is shading kanave why backpedal like this? it makes more sense just coming from town imo

@Zugzwang

@Gocj

Ok but why would town omgus not even 3 hours in

@bystander

bruh what is this reasoning

@Gocj

It makes sense in my brain

nyaaaaaaaaaa wolfy post

perhaps

@Zugzwang

specifically
if Gocj actually believes his reasoning, why does he immediately cave and decide that it’s bad, just because Bystander objected

good read

@Zugzwang

nyaaaaaaaaaaaa @guavagudetama how many games have you played with Leafia

this seems random but i also did not backread so

@Zugzwang

nyaaaaaaaaa what are your wolftells nya nya yna

this also felt random and slightly shady when i first saw it im ngl

@Zugzwang

town baby jail

town baby jail

@Zugzwang

@jail

i think of things mafia and wolves would do usually

i feel like mafia would write a post like that and go. wehhhh perhaps i shouldnt post this. and they would not post it

@YoubutWorse

my brain wants to be like “its old… the dataset is outdated… push her for it anyway” but ik thats not right

nyaaaaaa why doesn’t a wolf post it
like what’s the danger in it / why might it be found wolfy

@Zugzwang

I kinda get the opposite impression
like, I could see some people struggling to fake that as wolf
but I don’t see why, after one has typed it out, one would go “actually this is wolfy. I shouldn’t post this”

@Zugzwang

@jail

because as wolf i hesitate to post things if i think they look awkward or full of self awareness

IMO it doesn’t look awkward
idk about self-aware
I guess from a wolf perspective they could have the same thought (“Oh I want to push Leafia for this still, but it would be a wolfy and bad push…”)? and then consider it wolfy that way? is that your idea here

@Zugzwang

NYAAAAAAAA I do too
I thought everyone did thbthtbhtbthbth
also I do it as town

zug being relatable

i still like this interaction zug had with me tho im ngl

@Zugzwang

nyaaaaaaa @Hazardwaste is Kii town

the nature of this ping makes me lean towards this being town looking for an answer from someone nya

@Zugzwang

@Gocj

I dont think this comes from a wolf tho, unless we are ww togethee

was… this supposed to say “they”

towny post

@Zugzwang

is Derps volume polarized?

@Zugzwang

like, from what I remember of Derps their stuff so far isn’t out of character, if I ignore the lack of stuff
but it feels strange they haven’t done more

@Zugzwang

I do expect them to have confident pushes at some point, but not like. when they’ve made only 14 posts
so just the lack of that doesn’t ping me

@Zugzwang

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here’s a ~recent derps wolfgame (about 15 months ago)

they posted 87 times (and was vigged n1), except some posts were actually from their hydra partner
whereas I’m pretty sure they post more than that normally

@Zugzwang

VOTE: Derps

pure ahh looking progression, dunno about you guys

@Zugzwang

creature spoke

@Creature

I dreamed I dayvigged Achromatic in a mash who flipped wolf “Murukatu” (I think it was some sort of Pokemon flavor)

one post though

@Zugzwang

which imo is mildly wolfy
since like. why did they just leave immediately

@Zugzwang

I don’t like reading into that too much since there can be genuine IRL reasons someone might leave
but especially in RVS where posts dont take long to make, it’s strange and could be a frozen wolf

@Zugzwang

I think the specific way you went about it makes it convincing
there was the detail of their PFP change being the reason you didn’t notice them, vs just saying “oh I didn’t notice they posted, idk how”

lol this is a read that mostly town makes imo

@Zugzwang

is this a real read

@Zugzwang

and if so is it for their tone while discussing genshin? or their posts outside of that

@Zugzwang

ok good

if it were for Genshin I’d be questioning that
because generally, when talking about non-game-related topics, wolves can blend in pretty well since they’re almost not playing mafia

more questioning of bys that i find more towny than not

@Zugzwang

mmmmmmmmm
I can kinda see that?
it still feels more like caving though. Like, when Gocj said “It makes sense in my brain ” it feels like they’re not putting faith in their read here
And that’s also supported by Gocj not continuing to argue it in the following posts

another post i find towny

@Zugzwang

@catbae

VOTE: zugzwang

posts overall feel safe and blendy, don’t really like the pushes he’s made

what pushes specifically did you dislike? if it’s the one about Gocj idk if I’d call that a push
it’s more of just noting something that pinged me

towny response and defense to being voted

@Zugzwang

@catbae

gocj bit

I found it wolfy, so I mentioned it
I get your argument saying I misrepresented it, but which sounds more likely:

“v!Zugzwang interpreting something differently than you”
or
“w!Zugzwang intentionally mispresenting an interaction to shade Gocj, but then not actually pushing them for it, despite there being plenty of more realistic reasons w!Zugzwang could shade Gocj for”

@catbae

your approach to the sirderps vote struck as maybe opportunistic

that vote was primarily for pressure
which you asked for:

@catbae

i would imagine someone who doesn’t play that often will probably lurk a lot, but i wouldn’t object to wagoning derps and seeing if it lights a fire under him

as it is vote count is too empty, more people ought to be throwing votes down

so no, it’s not opportunistic

this is literally town defense lol. there’s no faltering wolf response to pressure or anything

like zug is very specifically focusing on defending himself more. i will say i don’t get catbae’s read and in fact i find their treatment of zugs slot bad. especially because zug’s progression on derps did not look opportunistic at ALL lol. and i feel like calling it opportunistic especially while asking for pressure is also weird. it makes me think they did it for the purpose of finding people to wolfread for voting derps. which wouldnt be bad on its own. yk they could be doing something for the sake of content, but calling that series of posts opportunistic is just wrong to me. like theres literally a linear progression lol. just it just doesn’t sit well with me. same with the entire notion that zug is being “safe and blendy.” like, no lol. zug has been not only fluffing the usual amount but actually playing the game

@Zugzwang

I’m biased but like
it feels like you’re voting me for ~nothing tbh
like I could probably make stronger arguments for voting more than half the playerlist

im not biased but i agree

VOTE: Catbae

im struggling to find the good faith in the push more than anything tbh. i specifically remember being pinged by it even before isoing zug so im glad i did this so i could get even more insight qwehhh

@Zugzwang

oh also an anonymous player sent me a message that I’m poisoned, and will die at sod2 unless healed
which I don’t believe at all tbh

poison from the poison chat

[jail]

now i must go for a bit NYAAA give me more names if you want

@Wazza

[SirDerpsAlot]

Honestly I kinda forgot this is 48 not 24 after FAM lol

[catbae]

if it was 24 hours you’d be in way more trouble!

[SirDerpsAlot]

Nah im town not mafia so im not worried

[catbae]

not what i meant but nvm

[SirDerpsAlot]

Yeah I’m not really caught up

[SirDerpsAlot]

Someone give me someone to ISO

[jail]

catbae
wazza
gocj

[jail]

any of those would be cool

[catbae]

want to gut townread brakuren fir how he was posting about gocj but still feel like i need to see more

[Gocj]

@Zugzwang

if Gocj actually believes his reasoning, why does he immediately cave and decide that it’s bad, just because Bystander objected

Also to this i didnt think its bad bc bystander objected tho?

[SirDerpsAlot]

That’s 3 people not 1

[Gocj]

Idk how you can reach this conclusion via that interaction

[Gocj]

@jail

towny post

Its a nothing post and just a simple question

[jail]

a simple question i would give points to anyone for asking

[jail]

actually nvm